Incoming Rooney to finish the season in a beauty bottom position?
Frank Lampard | New Diary of a CEO interview
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At present, PL survival is at stake though. Not sure they have the squad to play Bielsa's style and will likely get hammered a fair few times playing that way. Interesting to see Corberan emerging as a contended when that was purely off the top of my head.
I agree they’d probably go down with Bielsa in charge. The point I was trying to make was if you look at what Dyche did at Burnley, shit football with limited players albeit he kept them in the Prem, there’s only so long Everton fans would put up with that for and when they got tired of it they’d be left in the same state Burnley was left in, needing a complete rebuild with few saleable players. Dyche feels like a short term fix, they’d just be kicking the can down the road.
I think Dyche would have top be a short term appointment - maybe with a large bonus for keeping them in the league. Whether he would accept that is another consideration. Everton really cannot afford to go down as they're already struggling with FFP - that said, they aren't too far off safety despite how woeful they've been.
Dyche worked within a very limited budget. The state of the squad wasn't his fault, he couldn't spend freely like Everton have done.
Soft locking this for a couple of days as it's less about Lampard and more about Everton in general. Will re-open when that blows over.
Carry on the convo here - https://www.redcafe.net/threads/everton-2022-23-bielsa-favourite-for-the-job.471316/page-9
Carry on the convo here - https://www.redcafe.net/threads/everton-2022-23-bielsa-favourite-for-the-job.471316/page-9
Evertonians still holding him to their hearts i see despite taking you on the edge of the cliff before plunging you lot. “One of our own la”. What is it with fat Frank and Everton fans? What’s this all affectionate connection? Where is this coming from?
Isn't this his whole shtick, pretending to be one of the fans
Apparently Dyche gave out anonymous questionnaires for the players so he could understand what they thought had gone wrong.
Pretty much confirmed this post match by saying he’d appreciated their honesty and understood many had felt let down by the previous manager and staff (quite something to publicly put the boot in to Lampard I felt)
Any ideas what could have gone on or any rumours going round?
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Pretty much confirmed this post match by saying he’d appreciated their honesty and understood many had felt let down by the previous manager and staff (quite something to publicly put the boot in to Lampard I felt)
Any ideas what could have gone on or any rumours going round?
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Just think he was inept. Could be wrong, though.
Has nothing leaked from the club yet? Usually these things do, especially with Dyche being so openly critical of him.
agreed.I am drinking, but I thought Dyche said that some players felt they had let the previous manager and staff down, not vice versa?
I thought it was the other way round?
This is how I heard it too.
Not that I've seen. Say what you will about frank but he does seem a well liked guy. Shame he was useless.
Probably just that he wasn’t good enough. Imagine that may also come down to transfers.
I'm not drinking and that's what I heard
Just been watching a podcast with Iwobi talking about Dyche, Lampard etc. From what he is saying it feels like there is a more clear boundary between manager and players with Dyche. Sounds like Lampard is still a bit 'matey'.
yep. frankie just wanted to have a pint with the lads whereas dychey makes them watch him down them.
And that's the Burnley Way.
he calls any of the foren sounding ones dave and there’s crates of carling for whichever player “puts in the most graft.”
I don't think specifically would make a huge difference to performances. Different managers have different approaches. I can imagine someone like Dyche is a bit more militant about having a specific structure in place. Conte was like that at Chelsea, came in and set up all sorts of rules he expected everyone to adhere to. I can imagine Ancelotti is less like that and more personable.
Seen players say they don’t like the school teacher approach.
While I agree the way he inferred some of his comments also led you to believe that Lampard was a bit more relaxed in ways that went beyond social and personal I.e on the training pitch. I think Dyche seems firm in the way he applies his methods and wanting you to work hard but he also has a lot of banter to him. I think there is a fine line that perhaps Lampard still needs to hone which will come with maturity and experience in management.
Its very Chelsea-like if he goes on to win the Champions League now
It’s not very Lampard like though. I really didn’t expect Chelsea to rehire him.
Saw the "sacked" in the thread title and thought that was quick even for them!
This is hilarious
I was just coming here to post the same thing
Chelsea
Unsacked!
Hope he will become Chelsea's Ole 2.0.
Make a great short term impact and secure a long term contract at the end of season.
Would be hilarious
Make a great short term impact and secure a long term contract at the end of season.
Would be hilarious
Tbf he's been sacked before he's even started hasn't he? He's only got 10 games or so and then they'll go in for Nagelsmann or whoever the flavour of the month is.
pretty much. If there was the slightest intention to give it to him long term, we'd just give him a 12-18 month deal off the bat. I posted in another thread that either the new manager is sorted, but arrives in May/june. Or the interview process is going to be so drawn out, that an interim makes more sense for now
I think Boehly is on drugs. The stress of owning Chelsea must have gotten into him. Wouldn't surprise me if he chooses Di Matteo after Lampard.
Honestly, if this is the alternative, why wouldn’t you at least let Potter until the end of season and see if things improve? Potter would be a better interim for someone than Lampard is for Chelsea.
Not sure about that. They need a bit of energy and to put some of their chances away more than anything. Lampard seems to be quite a decent motivator and he can't be a worse forward coach than Potter. It's quite funny but I don't think it's an awful move. Chelsea are quite lucky to have someone like that on standby really.