At this point it's getting really hard to laugh at them again. Probably won't even pull off the 1:7.
German Football 22/23 | 2. Bundesliga returns | Hamburg vs Schalke 20:30 |
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Bayern at home down 1-0 to Koln within 5mins.
Btw, is that Steffen Freund on commentary for Sky Sports? 
Bayern is actually legitimately getting outplayed by Koln. Bayern has had some chances, but at the half Koln is a deserved 1-0 ahead. Bayern has not looked great since the World Cup—though I’m fairly sure they’ll get it together quickly.
They look very disjoint. Gnabry is wasteful, Goretzka mentally slow and Sané, Kimmich and Musiala are invisible.
Just love Baumgart's approach. Winning 7-1 against Bremen, and how does he change his team? Taking a DM (Martel) out and play an AM (Olesen) instead, and that in Munich.
It has worked at the beginning, now let's see if that's good enough to get something.
It has worked at the beginning, now let's see if that's good enough to get something.
Bayern look like a team who have gone backwards, too many underperforming players in the team now.
Wouldn't fancy PSG ever to knock out Bayern but they have alot more firepower then Bayern this time around to knock them out
Wouldn't fancy PSG ever to knock out Bayern but they have alot more firepower then Bayern this time around to knock them out
damn 
1:1 in the end, Köln get's a point. Well deserved, but also can't complain that Bayern equalised. They simply were to passive, they can do more (even in Munich). But still a great result for them, after the weak phase before the winter break they seem to be back on track.
Not really surprising. The world cup derailed our season. The team was in good shape and great form.
The world cup resulted in 3 longtime injuries and all key players being mentally shot. The long 2 months winter break didn't help either. The team looks rusty and out of confidence.
Up next for Bayern: Eintracht Frankfurt. Currently second in the league and one of the teams that always can beat Bayern, even if it matters. Should be fun.
A good and underrated point in my opinion. The German and French players had a horrible World Cup. Germany going out eary and France losing the final with Pavard falling out with Deschamps(?) and Coman missing a penalty in the final.
And as you mentioned long term injuries to Mané, Hernandez and Mazraoui. I am seriously pissed about the latter since I think that the Moroccan team doctors fecked that up mightily.
You forgot Neuer whose broken leg would never have happened without the long break caused by the world cup.
Only positive the screamer from Kimmich. S goat that should give him some confidence.
It will be very important to win the next 2 matches against Frankfurt and an inform Wolfsburg.
Interesting beginning to the game.
And so far not much else after the beginning... If Dortmund don't step up I'm not even sure they will get a top four finish this season.
Dortmund are lacking a lot of creativity up front, plenty of ball possession and actually looking solid defensively but no cutting edge up front. Don't look likely to score.
Reyna wins it in the end, played so much better than Adeyemi did. Haller still struggling with pace though.
Wirtz starts! Man I hope he gets back to his best, was a generational talent before his injury.
Wirtz starts! Man I hope he gets back to his best, was a generational talent before his injury.
That burst of pace from Diaby to get to that was just incredible
Is it just me, or does the 2nd division feel really bland after last year's lineup? Darmstadt and Heidenheim top 2 doesn't help either..
Just you, but understandable considering that all big clubs only play later today or in the evening.
Actually I quite like two underdogs being at the top and the big clubs chasing them
To be fair I guess I'm watching the second division through a first division lens, where Darmstadt winning promotion would cause indifference at best and Heidenheim would be a minor catastrophe.
I agree with you so far that I hope some big club is chasing them successfully.
I guess we're both thinking about HSV here, but different ones.
Why are blue and white teams so bad? Hoffenheim (13th), Bochum (16th), Hertha (17th), Schalke (Schalke). What is it with these colors??
I would be most happy if both make it, but that's unlikelyI guess we're both thinking about HSV here, but different ones.
I'm surprised Leipzig is suddenly second, just a point behind Bayern. Ok, they're a game ahead, but only Union can overtake them this round. Weren't they doing so poorly at the start of the season that their coach got sacked? They must have gone on a huge winning streak after that. Is Rose doing that well and is this structural, or can we expect a drop back soon?
Also shows how it's a pity no teams in the BL are really consistent in their performance this season. This would have been a great year to finally get a different winner - which might still happen but not because someone else than Bayern is clearly standing out.
Also shows how it's a pity no teams in the BL are really consistent in their performance this season. This would have been a great year to finally get a different winner - which might still happen but not because someone else than Bayern is clearly standing out.
Well, Union, Frankfurt and Freiburg all evolved continuously and are consistently getting results. It's not by accident, but by sustained performance that they are up there, they just aren't yet on an outstanding level, but they might get there.
Leipzig indeed improved a lot under Rose and are close to their expected level, but Dortmund really has to be careful to keep being considered the German number two - looking at titles in recent years, Frankfurt has been more successful already.
They aced a streak of moderately difficult fixtures and Bayern has a relatively weak season (Union Berlin is level with them).
Obviously Dortmund have underperformed in recent years, but wouldn't you say that Frankfurt have to finish top four at some point to be in consideration for a top spot in the hierarchy? Or in fact finish ahead of Dortmund, which they haven't done in about 15 years?
And while I respect Frankfurt's work and believe that their current fourth place or international success is no accident, you also have to look at the squad:
Trapp still seems to have one eye on a move and is 32 years old anyway.
N'Dicka is leaving for free
Hasebe is finally fading away
Pellegrini is only loaned
Knauff is only loaned
Sow has 18 months left on his contract, next summer is extension or sale time.
Rode's body appears to be quitting on him (even more).
Ebimbe is only loaned.
Kamada is leaving for free.
Borre wants out.
Muani will probably leave this summer, albeit for a lot of money.
They are facing a massive rebuild in the summer, even if they make top four this year I don't expect them to stick around.
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IF! Bayern would lose today and BVB win tomorrow the table would look like this:
1st Bayern 36
2nd Union Berlin 36
3rd Leipzig 35
4th Frankfurt 34
5th Freiburg 34
6th BVB 34
1st Bayern 36
2nd Union Berlin 36
3rd Leipzig 35
4th Frankfurt 34
5th Freiburg 34
6th BVB 34
Yeah, they're all doing very nicely this year. But in previous years, there have been clubs that followed Bayern relatively closely (usually) Dortmund. This year, that club would be safely first, but Dortmund has dropped off a bit and no-one has taken that place - and so Bayern is still first (but only just).
Dortmund is at real risk of losing out on the CL if things don't improve. That would probably also have quite the impact on their status.
I don't think so. It didn't in Klopp's meltdown season either. The club is already finalizing the transfers for next season. Bensebaini is supposedly all but done, they supposedly have agreed terms with that Spanish RB (though Arsenal have reportedly done the same) and this window they signed some prodigy from Belgium and Ryerson, while not being a flashy signing, was a summer transfer that got moved forward. By the time missing top four would be final 80% of business will probably already be done and the "end" of covid and a Bellingham sale, maybe some trimming of the wage bill, which is already happening, would leave the club with some financial leeway, despite the lack of CL funds.
Still, it would obviously cost quite a bit of money and significantly limit the room for further mistakes.
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Referee fecking Bayern over once again. If BVB were treated this way, Bellingham and @do.ob would be parachuting into Schloss Bellevue to protest at the highest level.
I basically thought the exact same thing.
Yeah they should do that and need to get this rebuild right. But I didn't mean that they have overtaken Dortmund yet, just that there are several clubs that might overtake them.
Should have saved that
But which clubs? Bayern, Leipzig - sure. Frankfurt are facing a bigger challenge than Dortmund next summer, even if they make top four ahead of them. It takes many years to solidify success and growth like that and not a lot to undo most of it, as Gladbach have shown us.
Just goes to show how much it flies under the radar when Bayern are disadvantaged. Against Leipzig, a perfectly fine Bayern goal disallowed, a perfectly illegal Leipzig goal let stand, among other things like Musiala getting booked for getting fouled.
Noone bothers to talk about it because it's Bayern who are simply expected to win anyway.
I NEVER exaggerate!
That's a brilliant pass and then that finish from Kolo Muani. Wow
Jesus fecking Christ.