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The £700m a season 'Visit Saudi' shirt sponsorship deal might be on ice for a bitWould this explain why Newcastle are acting a bit weird given who owns them?
The £700m a season 'Visit Saudi' shirt sponsorship deal might be on ice for a bitWould this explain why Newcastle are acting a bit weird given who owns them?
Liverpool have been linked to Qatari groups/consortium's as potential owners, but this happening to City makes the prospect somewhat unsettling. What if someone comes in and does the same thing at Liverpool or United?Timing, I have to wonder if the timing of this announcement was done on purpose. We are expected to start receiving our bids for ownership this week. Was this timed right before Dubai attempts to buy us, to deter them from buying us?
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I don’t understand your point here.And that is wrong, how? Are you telling me you are certain Chelsea is clean of any wrongdoing? Leicester, Wolverhampton? Are you 100% certain United wouldn't stack up a eye-watering amount of cases if put under the microscope for 4 years? How would you know? With the amount of corruption in this world I wouldn't be confident at all. But City are already deemed to have wrongdoings worthy of stripping away accolades and points for. Again, how would we know?
And I know it doesn't really matter. We are the one investigated, and there are obviously reasons for that, and we will be the ones to face the consequenses. But it is Worth considering since a tally of a 100 breaches seems massive, but given how we know nothing about how clubs are run, and no other PL clubs have been given the same treatment, we have no reference point. We have no idea how many cases could be built against any given club if they took a look at their dealings for the last 13 years. Therefore, we have no idea if 100 breaches is an abnormal amount, or if a similiar number would be uncovered in a large chunk of organisations.
As I said, when these are uncovered in relations to us, they have to be dealt with and it is irrelevant whether there is just as much corruption out there or not. But it was more an interesting thought than a "this is unfair, what about the others?" kind of comment
If anything this adds value to us. We’ve got huge revenue already and huge potential. You can’t take over a midtable side and turn them into a giant. You have to buy a giant and turn them into a behemoth.Timing, I have to wonder if the timing of this announcement was done on purpose. We are expected to start receiving our bids for ownership this week. Was this timed right before Dubai attempts to buy us, to deter them from buying us?
Speculation remains speculation whatever it is predicated onspeculation about what should happen to City os all predicated on if City are found guilty of the charges. The charges are all there on paper. Really not sure what your point is here
Don't be scared, use the @ button next timeI'm wondering how adexkola will try and defend this.
Should they make this stick, then it makes you wonder what mileage they'll be in these sort of takeovers in future, (or in fact the ones there are now) if they can't splash the cash at will.The £700m a season 'Visit Saudi' shirt sponsorship deal might be on ice for a bit
Aren’t we still a PLC? I have no idea about City but we’re talking jail time for United if they did this shitAnd that is wrong, how? Are you telling me you are certain Chelsea is clean of any wrongdoing? Leicester, Wolverhampton? Are you 100% certain United wouldn't stack up a eye-watering amount of cases if put under the microscope for 4 years? How would you know? With the amount of corruption in this world I wouldn't be confident at all. But City are already deemed to have wrongdoings worthy of stripping away accolades and points for. Again, how would we know?
And I know it doesn't really matter. We are the one investigated, and there are obviously reasons for that, and we will be the ones to face the consequenses. But it is Worth considering since a tally of a 100 breaches seems massive, but given how we know nothing about how clubs are run, and no other PL clubs have been given the same treatment, we have no reference point. We have no idea how many cases could be built against any given club if they took a look at their dealings for the last 13 years. Therefore, we have no idea if 100 breaches is an abnormal amount, or if a similiar number would be uncovered in a large chunk of organisations.
As I said, when these are uncovered in relations to us, they have to be dealt with and it is irrelevant whether there is just as much corruption out there or not. But it was more an interesting thought than a "this is unfair, what about the others?" kind of comment
Yeah, we've gone back and forth about this enough, I found your reaction to the news comical, we can move onSpeculation remains speculation whatever it is predicated on
Yeah, this is why they won’t take titles. It’s far too messy and leaves open far too many variables… what about relegated teams City beat too? etc etc…What happens to the domestic cups they have won if they were to be stripped of their league titles?
You can't just hand them to the runner up as the reality is they shouldn't have even been in the finals at all. So how do you deal with that? Just null and void the entire thing for each season?
What’s FFP got to do with Liverpool? They wish FFP held them backFFP is a joke, nothing fair about it. Football establishment is pissed of because they block Liverpool who are now relegation fodder nearly?
I'm all for a squad level salary cap. City are just Jack Walker's Blackburn taken to the extreme.
Lets be honest, there are people at City who should be facing jail time too.Aren’t we still a PLC? I have no idea about City but we’re talking jail time for United if they did this shit
You're only saying that cause you know you'll be joining us in the Conference in the not too distant future.FFP is a joke, nothing fair about it. Football establishment is pissed of because they block Liverpool who are now relegation fodder nearly?
I'm all for a squad level salary cap. City are just Jack Walker's Blackburn taken to the extreme.
No. The effect should be the same though.Timing, I have to wonder if the timing of this announcement was done on purpose. We are expected to start receiving our bids for ownership this week. Was this timed right before Dubai attempts to buy us, to deter them from buying us?
They can't compete with City. People in football are passed off at City due to that.What’s FFP got to do with Liverpool? They wish FFP held them back
Liverpool did compete with City and this unstoppable City are currently 6 points off fifth?They can't compete with City. People in football are passed off at City due to that.
Arsenal, Burnley, Chelsea, Leicester, Liverpool, Man Utd, Newcastle, Spurs and Wolves, the clubs wrote to the CAS about City...
Maybe that’s why they all want united it’s not inconceivable for us with success to get a revenue yearly of €750m per season with our huge worldwide Fan base, build 100-110,000 all seater and stadium and your revenue just increased £35m per year plus short snd merchandising sales , last report I saw from Delores had Spurs making nearly as much as us on match day revenue.Should they make this stick, then it makes you wonder what mileage they'll be in these sort of takeovers in future, (or in fact the ones there are now) if they can't splash the cash at will.
A Saudi owned club, stuck buying £30-£40 million pound players, and sitting mid table isn't great for their image I would imagine.
To be fair they were being well run.Where's all the posters coming to tell us how well run City are? Go on. I know you're reading this thread.
And that is wrong, how? Are you telling me you are certain Chelsea is clean of any wrongdoing? Leicester, Wolverhampton? Are you 100% certain United wouldn't stack up a eye-watering amount of cases if put under the microscope for 4 years? How would you know? With the amount of corruption in this world I wouldn't be confident at all. But City are already deemed to have wrongdoings worthy of stripping away accolades and points for. Again, how would we know?
And I know it doesn't really matter. We are the one investigated, and there are obviously reasons for that, and we will be the ones to face the consequenses. But it is Worth considering since a tally of a 100 breaches seems massive, but given how we know nothing about how clubs are run, and no other PL clubs have been given the same treatment, we have no reference point. We have no idea how many cases could be built against any given club if they took a look at their dealings for the last 13 years. Therefore, we have no idea if 100 breaches is an abnormal amount, or if a similiar number would be uncovered in a large chunk of organisations.
As I said, when these are uncovered in relations to us, they have to be dealt with and it is irrelevant whether there is just as much corruption out there or not. But it was more an interesting thought than a "this is unfair, what about the others?" kind of comment
Even the punishment you suggest (which I agree is more realistic, much as i’d love them to be stripped of titles and relegated) would cripple them assuming the PL continues to scrutinise their finances. I doubt a self-financing City (meaning a reversion to mid-table interspersed with relegation battles) is of much interest to Abu Dhabi.Yeah, this is why they won’t take titles. It’s far too messy and leaves open far too many variables… what about relegated teams City beat too? etc etc…
Other fans will just have to be satisfied with endlessly rinsing City fans about how illegitimate and ill gotten they all are.
I think a heavy points deduction & transfer ban at the beginning of a season is the most reasonable thing to hope for. I’d love them to be kicked out of the PL, but even that would require someone else to lose out on promotion in the Championship, so you’d have to relegate them from the entire league system really, which I don’t think they’ll push for, as it’s basically decimating the club.
The ME takeover for us was only paletable because longterm you can't see any other way of us getting near City (and probably Newcastle) if they continue to go unchecked, but, and it's still a big but, they are actually going to stop this sort of ownership from doing a they please, then a Saudi type ownership for us isn't needed at all, much as we might be suddenly more appealing to them.Maybe that’s why they all want united it’s not inconceivable for us with success to get a revenue yearly of €750m per season with our huge worldwide Fan base, build 100-110,000 all seater and stadium and your revenue just increased £35m per year plus short snd merchandising sales , last report I saw from Delores had Spurs making nearly as much as us on match day revenue.
Is there a difference between expulsion and relegation. Does expulsion mean no football for some period?Expulsion from the league looks very likely from what I’m seeing from experts
I'm assuming expulsion from the Premier League, which is relegation to the Championship.Is there a difference between expulsion and relegation. Does expulsion mean no football for some period?
Expulsion means being booted out of the league and starting from scratch (basically they get to be FCUM). Relegation means a year of Championship football. That’s what it should mean anyway. People might be misusing the word. Or maybe I am…Is there a difference between expulsion and relegation. Does expulsion mean no football for some period?
That's what is confusing me as well. Expulsion sounds more like completely thrown out of the football system instead of being demoted to the championship.Expulsion means being booted out of the league and starting from scratch (basically they get to be FCUM). Relegation means a year of Championship football. That’s what it should mean anyway. People might be misusing the word. Or maybe I am…