Was always the most likely outcome. Those thinking Ratcliffe was the best we could do were always far from reality. Owning us is the big one in football, the oil states were never missing this opportunity.
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It is surprising to me that people didn't see this coming. The fact of the matter is there are no morally righteous candidates to buy the club, not at the prices that are going to be banded about.
I never really thought there was a chance for Ratcliffe/INEOS. As you say, this is the big one and for as rich as they are it never truly felt like they were going to be the ones to buy us.
pretty sure everyone saw this coming?
It’s funny how everyone is quick to determine the morality level of this consortium. Journalists have mentioned its not QSI and wealthy private Qatar individuals. Is morality now depends on country origin with Ratcliffe British origin makes him better? Cant we just wait before identity is revealed before jumping to opinions
It’s being reported these are private investors
When the mail is the only place reporting something its usually safe to say it's not true.
The question is what exactly are you doing regarding the human rights issue, apart from typing out furiously on a keyboard. When you have a chance to actually do something about the "smaller" issues by boycotting the products by the likes of Apple, Nike, Adidas, etc, are you even doing that?
The journalist reporting it is very reliable from the Football Business side of things
Was the first to report The Glazers' willingness to sell
People talk a lot about morality and then pick and choose which causes to support even indirectly. How many on here who are complaining against a Qatari private ownership, will do the thing they can do - boycott products by these behemoths like Apple etc to actually show they just don't talk the talk.
It's convenient to ignore them and then state since human rights abuses (which also happens in these sweatshops and factories) is worse, so they will only raise their voices only during that time as they don't have to forego anything to support that stance, other than just post on a forum.
After what is happening with City, I see some people wanting to stay away from Middle East owners.
There is a reason Man City was 500m or whatever it cost and United is 4-6bn. Man City is a small club and they tried to force it to become a big club.
If you are buying an established big club, you do not need to carry out financial fraud, we are already generating interest from big sponsors around the world.
Revenue streams are up there already, with a takeover and hopefully better results on the pitch, that will increase anyway.
The owners can concentrate on investing in the infrastructure whilst the club debt free can run itself and buy big players.
There is a reason Man City was 500m or whatever it cost and United is 4-6bn. Man City is a small club and they tried to force it to become a big club.
If you are buying an established big club, you do not need to carry out financial fraud, we are already generating interest from big sponsors around the world.
Revenue streams are up there already, with a takeover and hopefully better results on the pitch, that will increase anyway.
The owners can concentrate on investing in the infrastructure whilst the club debt free can run itself and buy big players.
Nope, we will all cry about morality as long as we don't have to do anything meaningful to support our stance. As long as we only need to post on forums and shout how all ME ownership is bad, we are happy to be hypocrites
Is it a worry that nobody has jumped on the back of Keegan’s report yet? Thought The Athletic would’ve been on it by now
I'm not sure 'worry' is the right word.
different journalists have different sources/connections. Probably a case that Athletic don’t have anyone to confirm the story with, or are working to confirm it before running a story.
From what I understand, and no doubt I'll be corrected, Mike Keegan has lead the way with exclusive for United being up for sale. I believe he first mentioned it back around just before the summer, and he's led the way since.
Exactly. In fact I bet if you look at everything you wear, eat, watch, drive, etc has some exploitation in it. 150 yeas ago kids in this country worked long hours in foundries. We as a country exploited the world and more than likely still do in some areas.
But that isn’t supporting a football club though. I’m not cheering every time an apple watch is sold
Beautiful news. Even more great after the vile media campaign against Qatar during the World Cup where British journalist were told not to report good news. That’s what I call a moral win.
But morality aside. Funds funds funds.
But morality aside. Funds funds funds.
So far apart from Talksport nobody else is backing up this news. Going to be a lot of stories over the coming days and weeks.
There are two sides to that coin though. The PSG women's team have actually been more successful after the Qatari owners took over. They signed better players, won their first league, qualified for European football, and moved to a bigger stadium. I can see them being unhappy with Qatari owners from a moral standpoint but the flipside could be more investment for the team. Much like what it'd be for the men's team I suppose.
I’m sure they will be when they get their own stadium and training ground.
If this is true, it’s really a vile and dirty thing to do.
My only concern about wealthy Qatari individuals is what if they don’t agree with how the club should be run? Best scenario is they just leave it and invest in everything, worst case is they think we should be some sort of PSG-lite
Yeah 100%. I would've expected this story to have been at least partially stood up by now, but there hasn't been a whisper. No denial either, though (yet).
This is my worry too.
This is a downright lie. Journalists were not instructed to avoid reporting good news. What a pile of nonsense that is - hang your head in shame.
United earnt our money, we weren't handed it to us via an bottomless pit of cash through a state/owner who are simply sportwashing. I would rather us be skint and not win anything then become something we hated.
You keep using the same argument over and over, it doesn't matter if I don't have the money. That is beside the point, there is no perfect owner true, but I honestly would prefer sticking with the Glazers and win nothing. I love the club, I love winning, but it is not the be all and end all. I would have no problem if we were relegated if it meant we wouldn't be owned by a state/oil owner, the very people that we have complained for the last 10 years of ruining the game. I am not a hypocrite and I will not turn a blind eye simply because they decided to pick us rather than a rival.
I say again, I will not be able to walk through Old Trafford, watch the players or enjoy our wins knowing that I've succumbed to greed. Simply not the type of person I am. I can see your excited about the news, good for you, as I said before I have no problem if others see differently, we're all fans of United. Just don't expect me and others to be overjoyed by this news. For me it's the final nail in the coffin.
The UK journalists were very kind on Qatar during the WC.
It could be a year when everything falls into place:
City could fall off a cliff - and at best from their point of view, be severely damaged
Liverpool have already started to implode
United look to have a manager in place ready to take us to the next level
And we could be incredibly backed in the summer
City could fall off a cliff - and at best from their point of view, be severely damaged
Liverpool have already started to implode
United look to have a manager in place ready to take us to the next level
And we could be incredibly backed in the summer
I think I'd rather the Qatari's turn up on the doorstep than Ratcliffe and that clown Brailsford
I think the world press battered them in the run up though, no? During the tournament is was just about the football, and to be fair, none of us wanted to hear any more about dead workers at that point, we just wanted to watch a game of football without the guilt.
Agreed, no idea what that other poster is talking about, utter shite.
He broke the story we were up for sale didn't he?
Do you think? I don’t think there was anywhere near the level of scrutiny as there should have been.
It depends. PSG were one of the first to be bought, so they thought they need to flex their muscle.
If you look at the way recently they have moved, tried for a more organic way of growth.
The major difference is, you are not going from £10m player to £100m all of a sudden, United are still competing with them in terms of players.
We will probably be very similar to how we are currently run with more efficiency, better facilities.
I can see the Qatar group investing heavily in the community around Old Trafford and Manchester.
Not sure how good this news is. Leaving aside the issues on morality, with Qatar owning PSG I don’t want this lame balancing act between the two clubs and issues with conflict of interest as well.What amazing news to wake up to! Oil me up, baby, let's go!
We dont care about the dead ! give us our kick-ball !
There was a bunch of documentaries during the run up, was even one on Netflix I think? But yeah, not in the footballing world though, just the regular press.
Well we do, but I’d like to watch a football match in peace without being reminded every 10 minutes that someone died. Like when the queen died and they kept apologising for showing the football, just give it a rest for 90 minutes please.
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