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Nytram Shakes

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Take away the human rights record of the county. Look at the way PSG has been ran, yea they have spent money, but the overall squad building and use of wealth has been nothing short of a disaster.
 

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Have Qatar invested a lot in PSG's infrastructure? New stadium? New training ground?
 

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Take away the human rights record of the county. Look at the way PSG has been ran, yea they have spent money, but the overall squad building and use of wealth has been nothing short of a disaster.
Eh not really. PSGs biggest issue has been coaching, and expectations. They are in a league where the financial competition is non existent, so the bare minimum is winning the league comfortably. And any success is measured by actually winning in Europe which is very tough to do.

They had Tuchel and reached the CL final and some semis. They had Poch and reached a semi. They briefly had Ancelotti while they were growing. Other than them they've had some randoms. But generally, the squad building is hardly the issue. Lack of good enough coaching and then impossible expectations.
 

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I wonder if there is room for those of us who are not exactly delighted at Qatari ownership but also feel that they could never walk away from United given it has been, e.g. in my case 41 years, part of your life for too long?

I respect those who will walk away and also those who don't feel they can. I personally don't feel like I can and that's all I can really say.
I don't have an issue with anyone who dislike the idea of saudis or qatari owners that don't want to turn their back to the club. Acknowledging the issues and having honest conversations is a big deal. The other stuff i think is just personal.
 

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Unfortunately it feels inevitable to be the Qatari's.

Ignoring outside of football stuff - I hope if they do take over, that they run the club in a self sustaining way. Yes, invest in the facilities, infrastructure, invest in the community, clear the debts. In terms of player reinforcement though, I'd say just let us spend and reinvest what we make. Hire some smart people who know how to operate. Have a hands off approach outside of the initial investment to fix up the facilities and clearing the debt. I'd still be able to take pride in our achievements that way. I don't want them to come in and pull a Boehly, Abramovich, etc. I don't want an owner to gift us 500m to spend in a transfer window to buy shiny toys. I'd love to earn our way properly, be forced to use some young players in our squad, have a group that grows together and step up without always buying the new toys. I don't want us to be a super team squad where young players don't have a hope in hell outside of multiple loans before signing.
 

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Take away the human rights record of the county. Look at the way PSG has been ran, yea they have spent money, but the overall squad building and use of wealth has been nothing short of a disaster.
Indeed. In contrast to City, PSG have generally been poorly run haven't they? Six managers in nine years I think, fortunes spent, player power run rife, no CLs. The idiots even appointed that clown Leonardo as director of football not once, but twice. Not exactly something anyone should want to emulate.
 

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Cheers, they've owned PSG for 12 years. So it's not guaranteed they'd look to redevelop OT or Carrington right away if they buy United.
Mike Keegans report already said they would.

But even if they don't that's ok. Clearing the debt and being a more stable Football Club should come before fixing or rebuilding the stadium.
 

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Have Qatar invested a lot in PSG's infrastructure? New stadium? New training ground?
Successive managers complained about the training facilities, but, after 10 years, they decided to do something about it and new facility is due to open later this year.

They are planning to leave the Parc des Princes and move to the national stadium instead.
 

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Cheers, they've owned PSG for 12 years. So it's not guaranteed they'd look to redevelop OT or Carrington right away if they buy United.
True but I reckon whoever comes in will be looking to get the fans on side with a few grand gestures I.e signings and stadium upgrade/new build, at least you’d like to think they would.
 

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It's a bit funny how there's no reported interested in Liverpool from anyone, but you just know it that if the Qataris fail in their bid to buy us Liverpool will be their likely next target.
I imagine Dubai will purchase Liverpool.
 

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What are Norway up to these days? They seem like a less tyrannical oil state. I think we should create a petition for them to buy us.
NBIM invest only between 0,01-2,0% in companies usually and never interfere with daily operations. Own a small stake in Dortmund and Juve (great success!). Would be the perfect minority owner to Glazer at best.
 

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:lol: How is it that the only poster to make that connection is you?
im sharp as a tack my friend, and twice as sarcastic. Sorry about that. :smirk:

*edit* or maybe we‘re the only ones left? @Berbaclass and @croadyman are busying themselves twerking for oil dollars, @Brownie85 seems to have disappeared into thin air and nobody gives a crap about @hellhunter (there again they didn’t really in the Frenkie thread either) :D
 
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Still don't really know how I'll feel about this until if/when it happens.

What I do know is that I'd have no shame if someone comes in and spends their own money on a new stadium and training ground for us, I will see this as us been given back the money the Glazers have basically stolen from the club over the last 18 years. After that as has been said a hundred times the club is perfectly capable of been self sufficent, whoever the owner is.

I do wonder if under Qatar ownership if some of our sponsors will start jumping ship as they don't want the link to them though.
 

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True but I reckon whoever comes in will be looking to get the fans on side with a few grand gestures I.e signings and stadium upgrade/new build, at least you’d like to think they would.
Probably. A new stadium would take 7-10 years from inception to completion, though. Obviously, a refurb could be completed more quickly.
 

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It's a bit funny how there's no reported interested in Liverpool from anyone, but you just know it that if the Qataris fail in their bid to buy us Liverpool will be their likely next target.
They were more explicit about a minority preference. Glazer's could still pull the rug from under everyone and do the same
 

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Really hoping Radcliffe pulls it off. Really, really struggling with the thought of us by becoming a sportswashing front for such a questionable regime, not sure it would ever be the same for me.
 
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Probably. A new stadium would take 7-10 years from inception to completion, though. Obviously, a refurb could be completed more quickly.
Yeah true but if I was a new owner I’d look to get the capacity up to at least 100k seater to help with FFP and I’m not sure that would be possible with just an upgrade.
 

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It's why I take 'sportswashing' claims with a massive grain of salt. Politically we do all sorts of deals with these countries and barely anyone bats an eyelid but sports? Don't you dare touch our sports you sportswashers.
Agree. It's especially funny seeing this in UK newspapers when you have the GCC states filling up every royal's and important people's pockets for years.
 

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If Qatar want it they’ll get it nobody will out bid them. Bring on the super money I can’t wait
 
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