Because most organisations like this, whether they do good work or not are largely PR outfits. Any opportunity to comment on a large issue related to their field in any way will be taken. Its basically free publicity that they wouldn't be able to buy.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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How many people were asked? Because I suspect it wasn’t many.
I guess there's more chance of PSG reaching the CL than Nice.
Plus, the NGOs know Uefa won't care about the rights issues so they're trying to get the move blocked on a technicality.
It's a bit like tipping off the authorities that Al Capone is cheating on his taxes, because you know they'll turn a blind eye to all the murdery stuff.
We can all accept that the majority, if not all, of these multi-billionaires are pretty much as bad as each other, but I do find it strange that people want a Chelsea season ticket holder to buy/own our club.
There certainly is the possibility that a Middle Eastern buyer will use the club for 'sports washing', but just because the fans will be pleased that new owners will try and help the club return to former glories, instead of abusing them for money/profit, it doesn’t mean that we all can’t still speak out against the negative things these countries do.
Not owing the banks £500m+, redevelopment/rebuilds of the stadium, surrounding areas, training facilities, youth system etc. are what I’m interested in. Unfortunately, only the world’s richest can provide us with that.
“Better the devil you know” springs to mind.
There certainly is the possibility that a Middle Eastern buyer will use the club for 'sports washing', but just because the fans will be pleased that new owners will try and help the club return to former glories, instead of abusing them for money/profit, it doesn’t mean that we all can’t still speak out against the negative things these countries do.
Not owing the banks £500m+, redevelopment/rebuilds of the stadium, surrounding areas, training facilities, youth system etc. are what I’m interested in. Unfortunately, only the world’s richest can provide us with that.
“Better the devil you know” springs to mind.
I was astonished to read it somewhere that they own more in UK than the Queen lets try to digest that for a second, so Its alright for them to invest and buy things in UK and have more property than the Queen itself, but not let them buy a football club because of moral brigade yeah right sounds about right.
Hopefully they'll block Saudi Arabia then.
Should have had a poll on here. Bet more people would have participated than this one.
Don't really want state ownership from the middle east, would rather keep the glazers. Not sure an ideal owner exists anymore really though.
Realistically we were small enough to be bought by someone more palatable when the glazers got us. No chance now.
If we end up being state owned, which sadly looks likely, I just hope they don't flood us with money for the playing squad. Just fix the stadium, give the teams world class facilities, and don't take money out. We are rich enough to compete anyway, we don't need them to feck about like the city owners have.
Level of investment in the playing squad has rarely been the issue in the last ten years, managerial and player choices have.
Realistically we were small enough to be bought by someone more palatable when the glazers got us. No chance now.
If we end up being state owned, which sadly looks likely, I just hope they don't flood us with money for the playing squad. Just fix the stadium, give the teams world class facilities, and don't take money out. We are rich enough to compete anyway, we don't need them to feck about like the city owners have.
Level of investment in the playing squad has rarely been the issue in the last ten years, managerial and player choices have.
They put a poll up on their website at the beginning of the week but presumably it would be a small pool of people with it being locked behind a paywall.
This definitely doesn't reflect what I've been seeing online. Pretty sure that the majority would prefer Qatar to Ratcliffe.
It says in the tweet several thousand people participated.
It's hilarious watching the moral police throw their toys out of the pram as they sit in their sweat shop made Adidas tops, typing on their Chinese factory made iPhone, telling us we should demand better 
Anyway, it's the start of an exciting new era, Im sure the Qataris will do the best for the club.
We deserve this after the last decade of misery.
Anyway, it's the start of an exciting new era, Im sure the Qataris will do the best for the club.
We deserve this after the last decade of misery.
To be fair, I own more in the UK than the Queen now.
Ratcliffe offering 4bn USD, backed by the forces of darkness. The savior of the club.
I hope the Qatari blow him out of the water.
I hope the Qatari blow him out of the water.
Why though? Is it the prospect of an unlimited bottomless pit spending on multiple defenders like City, etc?
I'm sure Ratcliffe would clear the debt, sort the stadium, and the facilities we need doing just as well.
I don't think people are wrong to question it or feel uncomfortable with it but United have been happy to accept sponsors from suspect sources. Remember we were sponsored by Aeroflot until recently even after the initial Crimea invasionIt's hilarious watching the moral police throw their toys out of the pram as they sit in their sweat shop made Adidas tops, typing on their Chinese factory made iPhone, telling us we should demand better
Anyway, it's the start of an exciting new era, Im sure the Qataris will do the best for the club.
We deserve this after the last decade of misery.
My point is that the best club in the EPL by far couldn't match the salary of a player whose team flirted from mid table to relegation zone. That's how silly the Serie A was at the time. Regarding your question I am referring to Hagi.
I agree, I just don't like the hypocrisy with the selective outrage and good spot with Aeroflot, I didn't think of that.
Depends who you ask really. If you are just going by general fans the world over, you're probably right. If you asked local fans or even took a poll on here you might get very different answers. The article mentioned they surveyed Athletic subscribers so that also suggests a particular type of fan.
Is this a joke or what
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I filled it in. They didn't knock on my door, I was on their website.
I don’t really want an oil/gas state buying the club but would rather that than another US “franchise”.
It was behind a paywall so only subscribers to the Athletic, which is most likely somewhat of a echo chamber. Highly unlikely that poll is reflective of most United fans.
A Paywalled survey excellent journalism
Which is why the Jim Ratcliffe thing never made sense to me. If you are going to cry about PSG for Qatar then same crying has to be done about his other clubs
But it's a problem for them. If they block us now then they'll have to argue against the others and force sales, cos no doubt Qatar and Saudi's would fight them with that. Can't stop United's purchase due to multi club ownership but allow the clubs currently to still have same owners
Well, apparently taking money from suspect sources is fine, probably a lot of people wouldn't mind them owning a minority stake at the club too. All the morals etc. seem to come into affect only when we are talking about them being the owners which is a bit odd but whatever.
Seems like the most appropriate owner out there tbh
Other than being behind a paywall, it would have only asked people who claimed to be it I am sure. You would have easily got some rival supporters or non United supporters preferring SJR over Middle East investment
Yeah, pretty much what you've said in your first paragraph. I think there is a lack of understanding in regards to Ratcliffe's bid and talk of Goldman Sachs involvement makes fans feel uneasy. Especially after what we've been through with the Glazers. When push comes to shove, the majority want who they deem to be the richest and most powerful.
And do you remember the outrage when those things came to light? Adidas now have armies of people checking the factories. People did demand better, and got it.It's hilarious watching the moral police throw their toys out of the pram as they sit in their sweat shop made Adidas tops, typing on their Chinese factory made iPhone, telling us we should demand better
Anyway, it's the start of an exciting new era, Im sure the Qataris will do the best for the club.
We deserve this after the last decade of misery.
We should do exactly the same thing with Qatar, except as we saw with the World Cup they bury their head in the sand and tell everybody to feck off. It will be a sad day in the club's history if they buy us.
I think it's because these deals aren't questioned in the media until it comes to actual ownership. I don't think this means though people can't be against the idea. I'm not completely comfortable with getting into bed with a nation-state as these sorts of deals can go wrong if nations have a falling out.
Can we cut out the top red nonsense? It’s pathetic and doesn’t add anything to the conversation.
Having a difference of opinion doesn’t make you more or less of a fan.
Tribalism is real.
Right. I imagine some are also gleefully hoping to watch the noisy neighbours shut up.
Would be interesting to see. I certainly don't think it would be a landslide win for Ratcliffe if we did a poll on here.
The irony.
Yeah, my thoughts entirely.
Out of interest, is there anyone over the age of thirty here welcoming the oil money with giddiness?
The Athletic fan survey
Only open to subscribers, all rival fans going in and choosing Jim.
Only open to subscribers, all rival fans going in and choosing Jim.
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