Add to that the banks in questions are some of the worst on offer with themselves being reponsible for thousands of lives being ruined and violating laws en masse.
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I very much doubt whoever the new owner is will rip it up instantly.
They'll install their own man to work alongside the current 'power' and see how they work. They'll eventually decide if they want to change how things are ran, and who is good enough to stay etc.
It seems like there's a coordinated attempt in the media to de-rail the Qatari bid.
Several articles and journalists in the last few days.
I sense they know its game over for a lot of rivals if we get Qatari investment.
The whole moral high ground nonsense doesn't hold any weight when you look into the shady doings of some companies already sponsoring/working with United (maybe they choose to ignore this).
Several articles and journalists in the last few days.
I sense they know its game over for a lot of rivals if we get Qatari investment.
The whole moral high ground nonsense doesn't hold any weight when you look into the shady doings of some companies already sponsoring/working with United (maybe they choose to ignore this).
The media firestorm that's going to be unleashed is another reason I want to see it happen. I don't usually follow them, but the pure hatred and rage will be epochal, not to mention of the absolute highest order of hypocrisy. It would be remiss of me not to bear witness. I expect certain people's heads to split open out of nothing but pure vitriol.
So it's just us saying 'we'd like the bids in by today, please' and if you want to bid later you do so aware of the dangers of coming in late?
You have to ask yourself though - is the club growing or simply the PL? I reckon it's the latter. 20 years ago we were THE most popular club, bar none, in terms of popularity and revenue. Even ahead of Madrid who even back then, before their run in the last decade, had more trophies than us. Now we are... what? 4th or 5th? We are not growing as a result of the club becoming more appealing, we've plateaued and I'd argue there's no-one more responsible for that than the Glazers. A name can carry you only so far.
I hope so, ripping up the structure when it just seems to have started working isn't a very wise thing to do.
Pretty much.
WTF, Arnold and Murtough, flew to Barcelona in their cheap suits and came back with their tail between the legs, embarrassing for the club, and more so them. Tell your bosses they're about to get sacked for incompetence once we get some decent owners.
My view is that anyone outside the middle east is buying it to make profit, whether that means a few years of investment then slowly bleeding it or banking on the super League, they all will want something in return and given the huge asking price (not to mention the opportunity cost that comes with 6bn, you can get excellent returns in other areas with that kind of money) I can't see it ending well for us
I beg your pardon
I'd say they're going to be in the tens of thousands haha
The fact that it was Rabiot who said turned us down and if he hadn't he would be stinking up OT. We got lucky there.
If you were the new owner would you trust Arnold+Murtough to preside over a hefty budget and the task to lead us back to the upper echelons of world football?
We need total pros who have been there and done that.
The structure we have in place is the remains of Woody's failed disneyland experiment. They aren't the best people for the job. A cultural reset at the top could only do us good.
I'm sure ETH will thrive with more competent people incharge. He is used to the likes of VDS and Overmars.
Of course, I do. I hate the owners. It's fine to both dislike where we are and where we might go. I understand why is such an offensive position.
In the voice of The Rock.
"And the thousands.............AND TENS OFTHOUSANDS of the Brownie's posts"
Also it's more like you have to provide an outlier of an offer plus proof of funds so that the seller knows you are a serious option.
But we have an example on how they conduct their business, and it's not the way Newcastle is doing it. I'm sorry, but I don't buy it for a second that the fans who want them don't want them for their money and the hope of big investments in the squad and that's okay, but at least we should have the balls to admit that this makes us just as bad as the rest of the state sponsored clubs.
Morals, ethics and "the right thing" is long gone in today's football, and society in general anyways. Any of you chosing to end your support of a football club because of the owners will do nothing to change that. It's only you who lose out on that. So why bother sitting alone on some pale white horse outside of a castle on a high ground or whatever... For nothing?
If you're so desperate to support a club that will win nothing the next years go check out Southampton or something like that.
Every big ambitious club these days has some shady buisness going on.
Man Utd is as we all know an institute and one of the biggest brands of the world. With owners who actually put money into the club instead of taking it out the club will undoubtedly again start compete and win the biggest titles. As a lifelong United fan I would love to see that one more time. Wouldn't you?
Gas money from Qatar or oil money from Saudi, mob money from Mexico, drug money from you local corner, who cares...
Get down from your high horses, stop being so incoherently snobby.
Be realistic and be supportive of your club.
If you're so desperate to support a club that will win nothing the next years go check out Southampton or something like that.
Every big ambitious club these days has some shady buisness going on.
Man Utd is as we all know an institute and one of the biggest brands of the world. With owners who actually put money into the club instead of taking it out the club will undoubtedly again start compete and win the biggest titles. As a lifelong United fan I would love to see that one more time. Wouldn't you?
Gas money from Qatar or oil money from Saudi, mob money from Mexico, drug money from you local corner, who cares...
Get down from your high horses, stop being so incoherently snobby.
Be realistic and be supportive of your club.
yeah but if the Glazers are selling in total why does future value matter to them.
Surely the value is relative to today!
If Qatar comes in and rips up the existing management structure, they can fecking do one. Just now finally after a decade of mismanagement, Ten Hag has got people who are working with him and results are showing on the pitch. They rip it up and bring someone in who is not on the same page as Ten Hag and then he gets the boot and we will have a merry go round of managers just like Chelsea. All these thoughts suddenly make me think that we should ideally just stay put where we are. Cannot let Ten Hag go without setting this club right. He is exactly what the club is looking for. Even Murtough and Arnold have done a good job. It's just our facilities and the stadium which needs renovations and uplifting. Rather get someone in with a minority stake who can deliver on those things.
Think of it more like the bids that go in today set the benchmark and one of them will likely be the winning bid, but the soft deadline leaves the door open for a latecomer to have a look at whats on the table and come in with an astronomical bid and blow everyone out of the water.
they are hardly going to invest so much money to see it fail - the new guy will be better than Arnold!
Newcastle were facing a relegation scrap and then had the LARGEST EVER net spend in one window to get to where they are now.
Qatar buys United
Hire Woodward as CEO
Sack ETH
Hire Galtier
Sign Ronaldo
Hire Woodward as CEO
Sack ETH
Hire Galtier
Sign Ronaldo
Calm down, they have already leaked via media that ETH would be significantly backed.
The people that would be replaced would be the useless lot like Murtough and Arnold.
If you dont think they are useless, we could have got Anthony for 40m at the start of last summer but pontificated and wasted time until we had to pay 100m last min.
You don't think ETH had no input on the decision to spend so much time & effort in trying to get frenkie? It was clearly driven by his input.
The solution here can only come from the English. Have the government treat football clubs as cultural assets and make a Germany like system with 50%+1 ownership by fans.
That will not happen because the "3ed World country" cities like Manchester and London and what not are in so much need of gangster and dictators investment that any and all are ok. It took literal War on a big scale for England politicians (and pundits and "respectable" people) to even look at all the russian gangsters taking over businesses and laundering money in England.
Just seen a video from TIFO how watching football in England is by far the most expensive in Europe. Like almost 2 times more expensive then Germany. So all that money from gangsters and dictators has been put to good use in service of the fans then.
A CEO is generally not the SME you see at the coal face - for the team managment ETH clearly is. A good CEO will realise that the whole value of the business is dependent on the team producing and ETH is clearly the best person to do that.
People need to calm down.
The back end business management may change but currently it would be just stupid to relieve ETH
They went from irrelevancy to attracting Messi to the club.
The CL isn't exactly an easy trophy to win. But PSG and citeh are always in the mix for it.
Which can only be said for a handful of clubs in the world right now.
I'd be more than happy with that each year. We are sadly far away from that sort of consistency.
That was probably Joel's alt
And to signing Mbappe, Bellingham, Haaland, and Messi. @Brownie85 says JUST BRING IT
ETH and his coaches will be the only ones safe. Arnold and Murtough are gone. The entire structure will be reorganized.
To be fair, dont even need Woodward, Nasser isn't that much better
They did the same thing with EtH last year. There weren't any mainstream journalists pushing for EtH, or writing glowing articles on him, because they knew they had zero connection to him, and they wanted the guy they knew and were friendly with in Pochettino.
And they agreed a deal with Barcelona. They did their job there. I quite liked their suits as well.
The whole world is waking up to the fact Erik Ten Hag is putting himself into the discussions of best manager currently working in the world. Everyone in the game has taken notice of this, what an absolutely incredible impact he's had on this club. No one in their right mind would be looking to replace EtH, there isn't a name you could put forward that would probably intrigue a small fraction of the fanbase, let alone get them on board with replacing him.
Think you might be misremembering that period, at least the early part. Greenwald wasn’t working as a journalist back then and he has since admitted himself that he accepted the Bush admin’s case for the invasion of Iraq at the time.
That's funny, I thought FDJ was wearing the blaugrana last night and not white. In fact that's even more embarrassing, they agreed a deal with a player that had zero interest in coming. Do you know how transfers normally work, you talk to the player, find out if their interested, put a package together, get the go ahead from the player, place a bid. How many players have you seen turn down a transfer to a club that put in a substantial bid for them? Sure sometimes a club like chelsea might pop up, throw ridiculous money at the situation and hijack a move, but these are outlier situations.
Chelsea would’ve said the same about Tuchel in his first season
I agree it’s all rosy how, but what about when another flavour of the month comes a long during a dip in form?
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