PSG is a shitshow of a club - everything I hope we do not turn into.
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The principle won't change. FFP hasn't disappeared. Earned income will dictate the spending
Maybe give it time before condemning ownership
So we have to rely on hope just as we hope that the 800m loan from JP Morgan won't hurt us and that the Chelsea season ticket holder has united's best interests at heart
One can also that Man Utd is a far far bigger than PSG at the time of their purchase so we are in uncharted territory.
What is Nice FC state?
So who do you want to own us
Screw that. No point having an opinion once it's done. And they've owned PSG for years.
They absolutely benefited. But the funny thing is they are still chaotic.
All and all, the current PSG owners made tons of errors. The fact it's easy to dominate in France with so much money helped mask it partly. It would have been embarrassingly exposed in a stronger league.
Did I make a point about Nice?
Regarding SJ, what I read from twitter a few days back the loan amount is only to clear the existing debt and not the 5m being rumoured. Will ofcourse have to wait for any official information on that
And how are Nice doing in that league.
No point having an opinion now either then. These proceedings are beyond us now and always but our opinions can still be expressed
Not in the same way you are a Man United fan or I am a Chelsea fan.
Ratcliffe is a Chelsea season ticket holder and even tried to buy them. I'm sure he has some affection for Man United but let's not pretend he really gives that much of a shit.
As for Jassim I don't know. He might well be flying over to OT all the time, he's certainly got the resources to do it!
He needs to start laying out his plans IF he has any hopes of moving voters away from Qatar
yeah. They were taken from the brink of bankruptcy and turned into a megaclub. We on the other hand already are a megaclub. And they ARE a shitshow. All celebrity star power, no substance.
no idea what anyone’s intentions are.
but inios bought Nice for 100mil.
you buy United for 4+ billion and there is zero sense is finishing mid table
Now that years ago is a huge difference. At the time it went through rather smoothly
At this point, we need to avoid a situation involving another leveraged buyout. If the new owner needs to take a loan of 800m to buy the club or he feels like that money is better used elsewhere, there no way he will invest a lot of his money into improving the club.
A leveraged buyout would more than likely signal another Glazer type ownership.
The Ineos bid is looking more and more in this line of thinking.
A leveraged buyout would more than likely signal another Glazer type ownership.
The Ineos bid is looking more and more in this line of thinking.
This is the part I'm interested in. What can be done with a club like ours.
I must say, just by thier statement, Jassime sounded impressive. The emphasis on youth and community, alongside side all of the teams progress, was the one.
Just by the work they did on the statement, and the rest that followed by Mike Keegan, you can tell they're not here to mess about. They'll do things correctly.
True. Once could say they managed their team (giving power to superstars basically) this way because they knew they were the best team in France most of the time.They absolutely benefited. But the funny thing is they are still chaotic.
All and all, the current PSG owners made tons of errors. The fact it's easy to dominate in France with so much money helped mask it partly. It would have been embarrassingly exposed in a stronger league.
The problem we have is that we are trying to draw conclusions from previous ownerships at different clubs (Nice and PSG) with very different situations than at Utd.
There is no way to tell if this Qatari group intends on doing the same type of project with United as they did with PSG simply because the landscapes are so different
inios revinue is 61bil. Any loan is chump change to them.
The fact that United are far bigger and have the natural resources to compete.
I don't see why anyone would want to own a underpar United. It would be to the owners detriment.
People look at rich owners as banks who should buy clubs in order to pump huge money into them. But a guy can buy Nice and invest some money without trying to make them into another PSG.
Well then why are you bothering me at all for having one?
Agreed. I found it absurd two weeks ago when people here rejected INOES because Nice are not having a great season and it's the same with other potential owners.
You actually think the impressivess of the statenent telks us something meaningful about....anything?
Poor bloke will get belted from Ratcliffe's biggest supporters about the fact he didn't start supporting them until 92. Forgetting the fact he was not born until 82
I just don't understand why some of the fans have convinced themselves that this Qatari group will reproduce the same model of ownership (star player based). Anything is possible, they could also be looking at what's happened at PSG and decide to do things a little differently
It's a crazy way of looking at things. The certainty of it all is based on feck all
Certainly sounds that way but unless by some absolute miracle they can prove it's funded by private investors then no way will they win over some fans
Progress destroyed in an instant? Blimey
It was the running of his current club which worried me at first,however it's now other things
Yes.
Some will not be swayed. That's their perogative. The fans who will stay will be the important ones.
How as a fanbase are we going to mobilise against some of the bids? I expect some of the match going fans will run something, anyone seen anything online?
Being concerned is understandable tbh.
I'm keen to find out from the experts on here if Ratcliffe is still just doing this for the publicity despite actually tendering a bid, like some on here first thought! 
The Glazers has shown that United is still a huge global brand even if its a top 4 club. That's enough for a company engaged in a greenwashing process. What makes you think that Ratcliffe will dig deep in his financial pockets to seriously compete with the ME etc? He cannot be bothered to compete anywhere else
Yet Ratcliffe is still borrowing money to get us and once he kick the bucket Ineos will have a club with no emotional ties to and who had saddled it with 800m debt
Pretty decent, 4 points off a European spot, ten away from third.
Winnable game today as well, so win that and it's five wins on the bounce.
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