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Club Sale | It’s done!

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Chief123

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Laurie Whitwell was just on Sky and he seems to think there could be more bidders out there. Also mentioned that Glazers staying is a possibility if they don't get the right price. Qatar and Ratcliffe won't overpay.
Tbh everything he said was the sound of someone who didn’t know much more than what’s already publicly known. It was all “could happen”, “maybe” etc etc.
 

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It's about as racist as preferring to support local when choosing a restaurant.
To be fair, if it's the only criteria then it's a bit dubious. The quality of the restaurant should be the first criteria not whether it is in your street or four streets away, especially when the consequences are important.
 

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Sprinkle a little bit of borderline racism in there at the end by the Irish geezer. He wants Ratcliffe a “local” owner (from London) as opposed to a “foreign” guy coming in. I wonder if that fan wants Utd to have all local players as well and a local manager rather than these foreign players we keep bringing over.
It's closer to xenophobia than racism, but just because someone would prefer a local businessman from Manchester, that is a Manchester United fan, doesn't mean they hate foreign people.

Also, most of the success United have had in their history was based on a local core of players.
 

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Laurie Whitwell was just on Sky and he seems to think there could be more bidders out there. Also mentioned that Glazers staying is a possibility if they don't get the right price. Qatar and Ratcliffe won't overpay.
Almost certainly other bidders who haven't released a statement. I get why the Qatari bid did, they're well aware of the PR sell they need to do. Ratcliffe went public because he hasn't been able to wipe his arse without calling up a reporter asking if he wants to come round and interview him about it.

Other bidders staying silent is what they'd be expected to do.
 

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Well the club has been owned by 'foreigners' for 20 years. Maybe people have had enough and want a local owner that actually supports the clubs best interests?
Yes like how Britishers were not liked by local people after being ruled over for 2-3 centuries. I understand why people may want that.
 

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Well the club has been owned by 'foreigners' for 20 years. Maybe people have had enough and want a local owner that actually supports the clubs best interests?
In principle that's a decent opinion. But having the club's best interests isn't based on whether the owner is local or not, otherwise the Edwards family would still own the club.
 

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Well the club has been owned by 'foreigners' for 20 years. Maybe people have had enough and want a local owner that actually supports the clubs best interests?
20 years of foreigners who weren’t fans, but solely looking to drain money from the club. We now have a lifelong fan who’s a foreigner and declaring he wants no money from the club and to put all profits back into the club. Huge difference. Just because someone is a local lad, doesn’t make it good for the club.
 

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So xenophobia is celebrated and anyone who points that out is playing the “victim card”. Sounds oddly familiar :lol:
 

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So, majority of the "most important" fans, argued by some, also want the Qataris.
Good point. But no doubt those fans will now be forensically examined to determine if they are from within a 5 mile radius of the ground as there’s grounds of suspicion whether some of these match going fans have flown in from abroad which pushes them down the rankings in importance of fans. Investigation continues.
 

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From a 1 minute clip?
Why not? A lot of people ran with The Athletic survey that United fans want Ratcliffe. Only 7k fans, of a rumoured 1 billion, replied. But that didn't stop the media running with the headlines of "Manchester United fans want Ratcliffe!"
 

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Why not? A lot of people ran with The Athletic survey that United fans want Ratcliffe. Only 7k fans, of a rumoured 1 billion, replied. But that didn't stop the media running with the headlines of "Manchester United fans want Ratcliffe!"
It's a very very small sample of random people
 

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20 years of foreigners who weren’t fans, but solely looking to drain money from the club. We now have a nation state whose PR team says he was a lifelong fan who’s a foreigner and declaring he wants no money from the club and to put all profits back into the club. Huge difference. Just because someone is a local lad, doesn’t make it good for the club.
Fixed it for you. Glazers would probably claim to be fans too, since medieval times
 

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Nationality objections are ridiculous. To be honest it isn't less xenophobic to say "I don't want any more Amercans" either
 

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20 years of foreigners who weren’t fans, but solely looking to drain money from the club. We now have a lifelong fan who’s a foreigner and declaring he wants no money from the club and to put all profits back into the club. Huge difference. Just because someone is a local lad, doesn’t make it good for the club.
You mean a sport washing ownership saying he is a fan because that is good PR?
 

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I have zero issue with the idea that he could have been supporting United in the early 90's or before.

It is however quite fortuitous that the year he became a United fan was '92, a year in the club's history that has already been heavily branded in recent times, allowing him to incorporate that concept into his his bid. And it will seem even more fortuitous if, purely hypothetically, any members of the class of 92 who have no issue taking Qatari money lend their name to this ownership group in the future.

But hey, maybe I'm just unfairly cynical about the sincerity of this totally-not-state-backed good samaritan with a mysterious pool of cash.
They’ve already been chatting with Beckham so it’s quite conceivable that the idea for the group name came from him, not from the idea that’s when he first started following United
 

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20 years of foreigners who weren’t fans, but solely looking to drain money from the club. We now have a lifelong fan who’s a foreigner
Hmm, according to Daily Mail 'sources'. Nick Harris then came out and questioned those sources.

HBJ's supposedly United-crazy son Sheikh Jassim is one of 15 kids he has had with his two wives. Jassim was born in 1982 and is 40 or 41 (his spokespeople didn't know when asked on Saturday), is apparently a long-time United fan and has been 'passionate' about the club since he was 10 years old. That is the public claim, at least.

Those speaking on his behalf to this newspaper on Saturday conceded they had never actually met him, don't know whether he is married or has children, and can't say why he started supporting United in 1992, at a point when they hadn't won a league title in 25 years.

It is possible that as a 10-year-old he realised Alex Ferguson was on the brink of turning United into a dominant force over the next two decades and jumped aboard their global fanbase. Those speaking for him could not say how many times he had been to Old Trafford but insist he is a 'genuine' United fan who has been in person to 'many' United matches over the years.
While it could coincidentally be a true story, these sources sound more like government agents reading from a piece of paper, rather than a close friend or associate speaking freely.

I know this won't sway your mind one bit, but at least you should understand the sources that you chose to trust unconditionally.
 

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Or maybe some fans don't want to be the same as City and Newcastle and be state owned. How is this so hard to get your head around?
No it isnt hard. Actually its quite clear because those “fans” didnt put it like that.
 
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