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They are allowed here but their WUMming is less tolerated usually.How are rival fans even allowed in the United side of the forum? Should be restricted to everything else. Its bloody weird.
They are allowed here but their WUMming is less tolerated usually.How are rival fans even allowed in the United side of the forum? Should be restricted to everything else. Its bloody weird.
Think that's bad, they were allegedly funding groups whose actions were a lot closer to home for all connected with Manchester.The links to Al Qaeda and ISIS - not least state funding of Bin Laden is extremely concerning. I don’t want the club associated with that. That’s a whole other level from the homophobia and misogyny.
This could potentially turn into a Chelsea type situation where we find ourselves sanctioned by the government and up for a quick fire sale - which is where ropey hedge funds could get involved.
Porto 04, Liverpool 05, Inter 10, Chelsea 21 it’s not as hard as you’re making out to win the champions league.Or… they just aren’t that good. SAF won just two CL titles, City have none.
It’s pretty fecking hard to win.
You joking right… What article? It’s not rocket scienceYou literally just saw that in an article and passed it off as your own thoughts.
Think that's bad, they were allegedly funding groups whose actions were a lot closer to home for all connected with Manchester.
Hate to break the news, but if you’re British or American, your government has been in bed with the ruling tribes in these oil states for decades, and signed off on the deals that founded the states themselves. ISIS came to be as a result of all the d***ing around in Iraq. Putin on the other hand made no deal with anyone in the west, so Abramovuch was a much easier target. Why are you only aware of corruption as it pertains to Qataris owning United?The links to Al Qaeda and ISIS - not least state funding of Bin Laden is extremely concerning. I don’t want the club associated with that. That’s a whole other level from the homophobia and misogyny.
This could potentially turn into a Chelsea type situation where we find ourselves sanctioned by the government and up for a quick fire sale - which is where ropey hedge funds could get involved.
Not sure your point makes sense…How many times have Porto/inter/Chelsea been in the CL and how many times have they actually won it? That indicates it’s pretty hard.Porto 04, Liverpool 05, Inter 10, Chelsea 21 it’s not as hard as you’re making out to win the champions league.
Some people like interacting with oppo fans. For those who don't, there's a helpful "ignore" function so you don't ever have to see their posts.How are rival fans even allowed in the United side of the forum? Should be restricted to everything else. Its bloody weird.
Our clubs longest commercial partner is a Saudi telecom company. Who we’ve been doing business since 2008, I’m sure if you follow the money it all goes to the same people.The links to Al Qaeda and ISIS - not least state funding of Bin Laden is extremely concerning. I don’t want the club associated with that. That’s a whole other level from the homophobia and misogyny.
This could potentially turn into a Chelsea type situation where we find ourselves sanctioned by the government and up for a quick fire sale - which is where ropey hedge funds could get involved.
Your understanding of our situation is comparable to Boehly's of doing transfers.
I need a safe space from people of your ilk I think you should do the decent thing and exile yourself from the United forum.Some people like interacting with oppo fans. For those who don't, there's a helpful "ignore" function so you don't ever have to see their posts.
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The father apparently is the rich one? Sold Qatar airways to QIA for a bunch of money. Still no relationship with the PSG owners.I think most of us have come to the same conclusion as HITC Sevens.
Ratcliffe is personally worth £12-15b. His company has a turnover of £30-60b per year with £2-3 in profits. So if he needs finance to buy United then considering what Sheikh Jassim is promising full purchase, debt free, new stadium etc. But apparently wont need to borrow a penny. Then there's only one likely source for this funding.
However they want to dress it up this is a state funded bid.
Stick me on ignore and you'll be safe.I need a safe space from people of your ilk I think you should do the decent thing and exile yourself from the United forum.
It's supposed to be weeks before Raine finish with all the submissions, so silence is to be expected.
The government are hand in glove with qatar. We sell them weapons, they are openly courted for investment, and the UK currently does around 45 billion quid of buisness with them every year, a number that is increasing every year too.The links to Al Qaeda and ISIS - not least state funding of Bin Laden is extremely concerning. I don’t want the club associated with that. That’s a whole other level from the homophobia and misogyny.
This could potentially turn into a Chelsea type situation where we find ourselves sanctioned by the government and up for a quick fire sale - which is where ropey hedge funds could get involved.
All that is alright as long as we become like PSG and City and compete with top teams using Qatari money, this is the only apparent way to compete with the best teams according to some people. When you can't beat them join them.The links to Al Qaeda and ISIS - not least state funding of Bin Laden is extremely concerning. I don’t want the club associated with that. That’s a whole other level from the homophobia and misogyny.
This could potentially turn into a Chelsea type situation where we find ourselves sanctioned by the government and up for a quick fire sale - which is where ropey hedge funds could get involved.
Does it need to be pointed out every 5 pages that there’s a big difference between being FROM a country and the actual state itself?Hate to break the news, but if you’re British or American, your government has been in bed with the ruling tribes in these oil states for decades, and signed off on the deals that founded the states themselves. ISIS came to be as a result of all the d***ing around in Iraq. Putin on the other hand made no deal with anyone in the west, so Abramovuch was a much easier target. Why are you only aware of corruption as it pertains to Qataris owning United?
I think most of us have come to the same conclusion as HITC Sevens.
Ratcliffe is personally worth £12-15b. His company has a turnover of £30-60b per year with £2-3 in profits. So if he needs finance to buy United then considering what Sheikh Jassim is promising full purchase, debt free, new stadium etc. But apparently wont need to borrow a penny. Then there's only one likely source for this funding.
However they want to dress it up this is a state funded bid.
plus qatar has loads of gas, i'm pretty sure they have the third largeThe government are hand in glove with qatar. We sell them weapons, they are openly courted for investment, and the UK currently does around 45 billion quid of buisness with them every year, a number that is increasing every year too.
Debt isn't all the same.We could end up in a real mess at the end of all this. Leveraged sale with even worse parasites than we've been dealing with, or the existing parasites with their own new parasites tacked on!
I'm feeling more and more sure the Glazers are going nowhere.
You have to understand that in the region several of the countries have their own agenda towards other GCC members. Qatar has been accused of funding terrorism by KSA and its allies while at the same time KSA have been accused of doing the same. The Spiderman meme comes to mind. Reports of KSA wanting to invade Qatar has been doing the rounds for years and the easiest way of getting international backing would be to link the country with terrorism. Hence the Qatar diplomatic crisis. That was resolved last year in time for the WC but there's still underlying animosity towards each other even if they appear all buddy-buddy in public.The links to Al Qaeda and ISIS - not least state funding of Bin Laden is extremely concerning. I don’t want the club associated with that. That’s a whole other level from the homophobia and misogyny.
This could potentially turn into a Chelsea type situation where we find ourselves sanctioned by the government and up for a quick fire sale - which is where ropey hedge funds could get involved.
Well that's not happening, the other is possible I suppose, but this would only make sense if a full offer wasn't on the table, like Liverpool, as I'm still yet to see anything close to a viable arguement for this option over a full sale.We could end up in a real mess at the end of all this. Leveraged sale with even worse parasites than we've been dealing with, or the existing parasites with their own new parasites tacked on!
I'm feeling more and more sure the Glazers are going nowhere.
So in your opinion, American and British business moguls have no involvement with government whatsoever?Does it need to be pointed out every 5 pages that there’s a big difference between being FROM a country and the actual state itself?
When the US or UK are launching state bids for the club you’ll have a point.
It is an airline, which are notoriously bad businesses, had negative cash flow nearly every year before 2015 as far as I can tell (data from Bloomberg)... if the transaction was at market values it wouldn't have been for very much.The father apparently is the rich one? Sold Qatar airways to QIA for a bunch of money. Still no relationship with the PSG owners.
So he's going to sack ETH and bring in Xavi now? Do not want.Tweet
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I thought he made his money by murdering gays and torturing women?Tweet
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The way Xavi has been banging on about us it certainly sounds like if Barca doesn’t work out he’d quite fancy the jobSo he's going to sack ETH and bring in Xavi now? Do not want.
This is such a stupid post. You’ve answered your own question with your last point, nobody is unaware of how shady governments can be, the criticism is specifically being levied at the Qatari’s though as they’re the ones currently attempting to purchase the club.Hate to break the news, but if you’re British or American, your government has been in bed with the ruling tribes in these oil states for decades, and signed off on the deals that founded the states themselves. ISIS came to be as a result of all the d***ing around in Iraq. Putin on the other hand made no deal with anyone in the west, so Abramovuch was a much easier target. Why are you only aware of corruption as it pertains to Qataris owning United?
PSG = NonePorto 04, Liverpool 05, Inter 10, Chelsea 21 it’s not as hard as you’re making out to win the champions league.
It’s apples and oranges and it’s a ridiculous comparison to make.So in your opinion, American and British business moguls have no involvement with government whatsoever?
I wish I could find it now, but there was a tweet posted quoting a football finance specialist who stated the proposals would be poured over and presented to the Glazers before any decision was made.How many weeks? I thought It was supposed to be all wrapped up by the end of the first quater.
You don't even understand the point I'm making and you have the audacity to call me stupid. GFY.This is such a stupid post. You’ve answered your own question with your last point, nobody is unaware of how shady governments can be, the criticism is specifically being levied at the Qatari’s though as they’re the ones currently attempting to purchase the club.
Quality? He lost me at the point where he said QIB was predominately owned by the state. There is zero evidence that is true, it's appalling workAnnoying John Oliver type voice, but quality content. Thoroughly enjoyed this.
They don't call it sport washing for nothing.The links to Al Qaeda and ISIS - not least state funding of Bin Laden is extremely concerning. I don’t want the club associated with that. That’s a whole other level from the homophobia and misogyny.
This could potentially turn into a Chelsea type situation where we find ourselves sanctioned by the government and up for a quick fire sale - which is where ropey hedge funds could get involved.