Jim is an attractive proposition. He's 5 times richer than the Glazers and we wouldn't be selling our soul to be sports washers either. This is what people have been telling you all. That would be a huge huge improvement for us.
Bravo sir!
No he is not the Emir’s brother. The Emir is the son of this Hamad (former Emir/absolute ruler) :
How did Qatar get its wealth again?
Yep, their agenda against a state (where being gay is a criminal offence and migrant workers are treated deplorably) bidding, in which that state is pretending they're not the ones bidding to circumvent the rules, is really unfair. Should be more supportive of them.
a non doom-&-gloom post? tears running down my face
Yeah given Qatar's atrocious human rights record a lot of people understandably would have an agenda against them.
If we're honest, I think a lot of fans either don't know, don't understand or don't care about what's going on in Qatar to begin with. I think it's been evidenced by the World Cup where it felt like more people had an issue with its timing rather than the Qatar's issues.
You literally just saw that in an article and passed it off as your own thoughts.
Put it this way, INEOS could currently service a debt of 80 million /year (4.5 times our current annual debt payments), and it’d barely be noticeable on their bottom line. That’d be reduced from 2.1 billion this year to 2.02 billion
Indeed!yep that’s the reason
It's all coming from the state regardless. Same as Newcastle. These people simply don't have 6bn to throw away on vanity projects.
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Did you watch the corrupt world cup?
It's nuts isn't it?
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Fair point.
It’s very obvious there is a massive fan divide by this very forum, even on this very page!…. Not helped by shit like “Qatar is winning the hearts and minds of most fans” which sounds like when twats make controversial declarative statements just so they can justify their opinion when nobody challenges it. A lot of fans are just resigned to it, as much as anything else.
I think that's certainly true for large aspects of our younger fanbase. Most don't understand the situation nor really care.
I just don't think there is such a big divide. From every fan driven poll I've see, Qatar beats SJR.
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You know, because going off media speculation as opposed to being told exactly what's happening is better for keeping focused
Interesting suggestion from O'Neil was that to clear the debt very quickly Ratcliffe could make clear there would be a sale of equity to fans. Would provide power to fans and wipe the debt.
what assets they can strip without doing more more financial damage than its worth?
A key point here is the Glazers where never going to sell so it made sense the Qataris weren't interested in a wild goose chase
They could sell off old trafford and the training ground and lease them back, make a quick buck there and then sell shortly after for a profit. It's the kind of thing these cretins do.
I think almost every fan is aware of the issues over Qatar ownership.
yeah that definitely devalues the club more than they’d make doing it
It kind of makes sense. Spending big on a stadium would cost a club a lot more than overspending on players.
Indeed it is. The PL have a lot to answer for. The fit and proper owners test was a sham from the start. They just wanted the money.
Would yeh feck off.I’m not. Sport washing obviously works with your post dismissing Jim as being not exactly environmentally friendly. That’s a horrendous statement quite frankly
But you questioned why some media are having a “hard time” understanding why United fans have suddenly gone from the Anti-Murdoch, Anti-state ownership, piss taking out of Newcastle, to overnight overwhelming backers of state ownership.
That goes back again to my earlier point though - you can double that figure again and it still doesn't make a big impact on that line, which makes me think it's not as simple as deducting one off the other and thinking everything's fine. We don't even have confirmation they'll wipe the Glazer debt yet - I think it's likelier than not that they would but it again goes back to how their messaging so far has been pretty poor in all honesty. Given how opaque the Glazers/Raine have made the entire process as well, it feels like we might always be left in the dark on this stuff which is frustrating as a fan over something so important.Put it this way, INEOS could currently service a debt of 80 million /year (4.5 times our current annual debt payments), and it’d barely be noticeable on their bottom line. That’d be reduced from 2.1 billion this year to 2.02 billion
It’s nothing like a leveraged debt, which has skewed everyone’s views as that scumfeckery should never have been allowed, it’d be a standard example/practice with an enormous company taking over a much smaller one.
