I actually agree with all of this. The poster I was responding to said Nice was one of the reasons he wasn't keen on INEOS. If he's using Nice, might as well use Malaga.
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Which one is it? You're judging every member of the Qatari royal family and tieing them all with the same brush (which is bizarre). If so, you have to do the same for INEOS and all their family members.
Or, you keep Jassim separate, and just concentrate on what INEOS own.
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Does Jassim own Malaga?
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Well someone better tell them that we're running a sales process here and they are welcome to bid
There's obviously been no interest from the US other than the odd hedge/PE fund or collective investment.
Yeah of course! Why didnt I see that?!
Think you’re being a bit diplomat. You’re right too many royal/connected to the royals to judge Jassim on them. But we damn sure can judge Ratcliffe on Nice and his Swiss club because he directly owns them. If I can’t bench press 120kg, you can’t say well when 180kg in an Olympic stadium he’ll do better
There's a big difference in that the Sheikh owning Malaga doesn't seem to be very connected to either Jassim or the main Al Thani members, other than by name - which he shares with several thousand others. Tried to find more info on him but he seems to be only seen as just a fairly rich business man in the region, but not much else.
INEOS actually own Nice (and Lausanne) so I can see why his performances there can be used against his ability to run a club. But like I said, United is a different beast compared to Nice and the infrastructure of both clubs aren't remotely similar.
I'm tying them together b/c they are financially backed by the same state.
Even if I do concede that point, what other clubs do INEOS family members own or is that just a hypothetical?
Is the source of the funds from the members of the Qatar royal family not backed by the state?
Unless this is a lie, the Malaga owner is part of the royal family, not some random businessman.
Is he a reliable, credible source? What he said is just like saying nothing.
Hypothetical. Because I'm trying to highlight how bizarre your comparison is. And I believe others have also try to highlight to you the same.
But even if I do concede the point about Malaga, how well are the INEOS football clubs doing, for me to have so much confidence that they are the best fit to purchase and run Manchester United?
He’s neither, absolute chancer. Constantly tweets shite that is rarely correct
Remember when people thought the Glazers would be accepting the initial 4.5b offer 
He's said to be a good source on all things Qatar when it comes to football.
What he's basically saying, and has been saying for a while. Is that there's a worry amongst the Qatar group about the merchant bank (Raine) and the Glazers wanting to create a scenario where Sheikh Jassim is ghost bidding against himself.
It's bizarre to you b/c you don't want them to judge the Qatar royal family by a club they own that isn't doing well.
Manchester United don't have the same profile as OGC Nice (it's reasonable to assume they would be run differently), and I'm not the one who said I'm judging them by how they run Nice. Since you conceded the point about Malaga and are judging INEOS based on another club they own, how are they run compared to Nice? This isn't a hypothetical question.
It's not just bizarre to me. Other posters have also highlighted this to you. Its a bizarre comparison.
And yes, I am using how INEOS run their clubs to measure them by. SJR said he wants Nice to be challenging PSG for titles. I don't believe that has really happened.
He is their puppet figurehead and nothing more
Literally, one other poster commented, and I replied with the same comment I made to you (which you ignored). If both sources of funds are from the state (which is reasonable to assume) then is it not similar?
Now do the same for Malaga.
EDIT: My original point still remains. There isn't enough information to shill for either side. That is what's bizarre.
He just needs Dominic Cummings to reprogram the Brexit bots and plaster a silly message on the side of a red bus. Job done.
“We owe £350 million per week in interest payments. Why not fund our new signings instead.”
How fecked would PSG be if we get bought by Qatar?
As I say, Jassim doesn't own Malaga. So, I can't do the same.
You missed my point about Jassim's father, JBJ. He is backing his son's bid. Nothing about state bid.
Is the state of Qatar not essentially going to fund the bid? Still trying to figure out what his dad has to do with it.
That makes sense. The public statements and some degree of leaks from both Qatar group and Ieon after the first round bids, seems breaking that possibility, i.e., every party knows what the other party is roughly intended. Maybe that’s the reason explaining the recent leaks from Qatar group about their mood changes (so-called willing to overpay)?
I got interested in who he is and run to wiki which says he is an American political freelancer reporter based in Washington DC!!!
What?
That proves manutd’s massive fanbase is real? Very interesting…
So when do think the other "groups" bidding for outright sale come to Old Trafford to meet Raine and Arnold. Isn't it going to be that Pagliuca group?
Personally I’d assume they already have if there is another deadline in the middle of next week.
Not really as Uefa are looking for one state owner to be allowed to own multiple clubs providing the management team
Is different, the real issue is Of course transfers and whether PSG, who are in huge breaches of the new FFP sustainability laws start doing some creating accounting, or more likely
Maybe some swap deals, maybe even dumping a certain Messi, Neymar or Mbappe at united.
The currently have a wage bill which is the same as their turnover so PSG have to do a lot of work this and next summer, don’t be surprised if Neymar, kimpembe, Messi, Veratti or even Mbappe end up at united and Harry Maguire goes to PSG.
Aye I was just thinking more along the lines of we'd be the shiny new toy for Qatar and they'd lose interest in PSG.
The statements about not wanting to overpay more than what will allow them to become the best bid, is intentional imo. I think the bank and the Glazers are intentionally going to drag this out and make it seem like other interested parties are also through to a supposed next round of bidding. I think there will be a third round of bidding.
And the quoted piece below from mazhar13, alludes to Ben Jacobs being a decent source when it comes to news from Qatar.
He's responding a question of the sky report which implied that jassim will pay whatever it takes to win.
Isn't Jacobs also based in Qatar?
There is no evidence of that yet.
We will only know when they announce the members of the 92 Foundation -- so various individuals contributing but my money will be on Qatari commercial entities contributing.
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You really believe Nice can challenge PSG for titles within three years?
What have we got to go on with the Qatari bid running a club, given the consortium involved in the bid have never run a club before?
People in this thread are also getting way to fixated with Qatar and how they will apparently throw money at anything just to get their shiny toy.
That is far from the case, they will walk away if they feel they are not getting value for their money, they are business men at heart and are in it to earn money just like everyone else.
Churlish and stupid to think otherwise.
There are two Ben Jacobs. This one is a sports reporter I think is contracted to work for various media companies incl CBS Sports. Think he graduated from Oxford.
He has been very consistent with what he has been saying esp the process.
The journeyman himself, Mr Worldwide.Unless Arsenal fans hijack the poll and we end up signing Ali Dia or Pitbull
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