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justsomebloke

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I don't just a player by a little run in form. He looked amazing when he joined, he has been rubbish for a while. He's picked up form again.

Let's see if we can get some consistency and effectiveness over the next year. Ultimately a wide forward needs to be measured by goals and assists.

I'm not passing judgement until he's had 2 full seasons at least.
How has he picked up form? He was awful yesterday, as he has been for the most part when he's started since returning. He has generally only been good when coming on as a sub.
 

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Peter Schmeicel summed it up last night, stating that he could not remember Sancho doing anything . That's the issue here, the player seems lost.

What is Sancho being picked for? Goals? Assists? Winning the ball back? Energy? Physicality? Pace? Leadership? Dribbling, committing players? Passing?

I have no idea. It seems as if he has put his Bundesliga mindset away. Think he has struggled to respond to the improved and far more competitive league, similar to Antony.

I'm not sure what we can do with him.. we can't pay those wages and he is doing essentially not very much at all. That will unsettle the squad, amongst other things.
 

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I'd like to see how he plays when we have a proper no. 9. But even the lack of a striker doesn't excuse his continuously meek displays. Far from convinced and will be very surprised if EtH manages to turn him into a proper player.
 

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Way too early to write him off as some are doing here, and there's zero chance of Ten Hag making that mistake. He will back himself to draw out the world-beater which Sancho certainly has the talent to be. If it's an attitude problem, all the better - ETH is a man manager and attitude problems can be rectified, if anything, more easily than footballing weaknesses.

Rashford sets one example; two poor seasons, a player that unbelievably fans on here were starting to write off. Now look at him.

Antony sets another; been slow to settle in or achieve any consistency this season, but there are signs from the past few games that he's starting to click into gear (and he certainly has all the ingredients). His attitude, commitment, desire to be involved, courage to ask for the ball, defensive workrate and running have all been exemplary. Now, as it starts to pay off, he'll be a difficult-to-ignore example for Sancho; same age, also a big transfer fee, mirror positions and similar roles in the team. For a man-manager, that sort of comparison is gold-dust.
 

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On the bright side we're supposedly introducing a salary cap so this kind of thing never happens again. Every cloud and all...
 

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I’ve seen him play one great game since Utd signed him. That was for England v Ukraine at the Euros.
 

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Way too early to write him off as some are doing here, and there's zero chance of Ten Hag making that mistake. He will back himself to draw out the world-beater which Sancho certainly has the talent to be. If it's an attitude problem, all the better - ETH is a man manager and attitude problems can be rectified, if anything, more easily than footballing weaknesses.

Rashford sets one example; two poor seasons, a player that unbelievably fans on here were starting to write off. Now look at him.

Antony sets another; been slow to settle in or achieve any consistency this season, but there are signs from the past few games that he's starting to click into gear (and he certainly has all the ingredients). His attitude, commitment, desire to be involved, courage to ask for the ball, defensive workrate and running have all been exemplary. Now, as it starts to pay off, he'll be a difficult-to-ignore example for Sancho; same age, also a big transfer fee, mirror positions and similar roles in the team. For a man-manager, that sort of comparison is gold-dust.
I don't know how can you compare Sancho with Rashford. The major difference here is that Rashford started off brilliantly, similarly to Garnacho in some ways, with a lot more goals of course. So in this case even if you have a blip in form, you can hope they can return to the level they were before. You can argue it's too early to write Antony off, which I would agree. Even though he was mainly very underwhelming and has some glaring weaknesses in his play, it's his 1st season, maybe he will adapt. But Sancho? He is here for almost 2 full seasons now and can anyone honestly remember a single really good game he had? I certainly can't. Guy has shown quite literally nothing so far and expecting him to suddenly turn it around is just nothing more than a blind hope.
 

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I'd like to see how he plays when we have a proper no. 9. But even the lack of a striker doesn't excuse his continuously meek displays. Far from convinced and will be very surprised if EtH manages to turn him into a proper player.
It is how much patience ETH has with him. He is used to a Haaland type player, it is if we sign that type.
 

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There was a piece of play in the second half when Maguire nutmegged a Sevilla player and Sancho was with the ball approaching the box and then played an absolutely bad pass to Malacia who was overlapping. A very promising move that broke down because of his crappy play. I was absolutely fuming at him :mad:
 

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There was a piece of play in the second half when Maguire nutmegged a Sevilla player and Sancho was with the ball approaching the box and then played an absolutely bad pass to Malacia who was overlapping. A very promising move that broke down because of his crappy play. I was absolutely fuming at him :mad:
That was atrocious and his reaction showed how broken he was
 

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We dominated the game for the first 30 minutes and were playing liquid football, and he still managed to look utter shite in that period.

Then when momentum shifted away he did his usual, relentlessly lose the ball and ruin every counter.
 

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He should be sent out somewhere on loan to get his shit togehter
Finally people are warming to the idea I had after his 4 months here which was ridiculed at the time. It was the correct idea then and is a correct choice now as well, he needs to either get some confidence (if this is what's lacking) or get a proper kick (if it's his lack of effort). Either way, if we just keep him around he'll just continue to be a waste of space.
 

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unless someone comes in to offer some good money prob just stuck with him for next season. Id put him in for every cup game to help with rotation/fatigue from the starters. Especially if we have UCL next season. Keep the main players fresh for UCL and League games. He can handle the League cup and fa cup stuff with the rotated players. Gotta figure he will be at best 3rd choice LW next year assuming we sign a CF. Rash>Garnacho>sancho at best.
 

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I don't know how can you compare Sancho with Rashford. The major difference here is that Rashford started off brilliantly, similarly to Garnacho in some ways, with a lot more goals of course. So in this case even if you have a blip in form, you can hope they can return to the level they were before. You can argue it's too early to write Antony off, which I would agree. Even though he was mainly very underwhelming and has some glaring weaknesses in his play, it's his 1st season, maybe he will adapt. But Sancho? He is here for almost 2 full seasons now and can anyone honestly remember a single really good game he had? I certainly can't. Guy has shown quite literally nothing so far and expecting him to suddenly turn it around is just nothing more than a blind hope.
Antony has that dog in him which has pushed limited players to the top. Mane is a good example he really improved his game in his early to mid 20’s.
 

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as an outsider it's pretty wild to see the change of sentiment on the kid... not that you're wrong by any means.

but he was a "must have, no excuses" player and it's already "how do we rid of him".

football is a crazy sport, man. time move fast.
 

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I am kinda doubting his ability right now.

Few days ago I watched a couple of videos of his "all touches" videos for him in the CL against Barca and PSG if I remember correctly, and though he played well in some of those games, I still see things that he didn't improve upon yet, mainly his intensity, like even his passes and movements weren't sharp in those games where he played well in, and it becomes very apparent in his current terrible form, and even when he plays okish, you would still feel that he isn't all that really.

And now with Rashford and Garnacho injured, there is no option but to play him for the time being and that doesn't bode well for the team at all.
 

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It all seems too much for the kid. Confidence looks shot, be so happy if he could turn it around.
 

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Maybe he'd play netter more central I've always felt; a strike partner for Rashford
 

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Way too early to write him off as some are doing here, and there's zero chance of Ten Hag making that mistake. He will back himself to draw out the world-beater which Sancho certainly has the talent to be. If it's an attitude problem, all the better - ETH is a man manager and attitude problems can be rectified, if anything, more easily than footballing weaknesses.

Rashford sets one example; two poor seasons, a player that unbelievably fans on here were starting to write off. Now look at him.

Antony sets another; been slow to settle in or achieve any consistency this season, but there are signs from the past few games that he's starting to click into gear (and he certainly has all the ingredients). His attitude, commitment, desire to be involved, courage to ask for the ball, defensive workrate and running have all been exemplary. Now, as it starts to pay off, he'll be a difficult-to-ignore example for Sancho; same age, also a big transfer fee, mirror positions and similar roles in the team. For a man-manager, that sort of comparison is gold-dust.
IMO I don't think you can really compare the two. On a fundamental level, Rashford has all the physical attributes that would make him thrive in PL; Sancho does not. He seems to lack the physical intensity to last a full 90 minutes, not to mention he doesn't have that dogged fight in him. If you're lacking physically, you have to make up for it technically, which he hasn't done so far. Rashford has also had his fair share of long-term injuries, which staggered his development. Sancho hasn't had major injury issues at Utd and the longest he's been out was due to other reasons (which we may never fully know about).
 

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Way too early to write him off as some are doing here, and there's zero chance of Ten Hag making that mistake. He will back himself to draw out the world-beater which Sancho certainly has the talent to be. If it's an attitude problem, all the better - ETH is a man manager and attitude problems can be rectified, if anything, more easily than footballing weaknesses.

Rashford sets one example; two poor seasons, a player that unbelievably fans on here were starting to write off. Now look at him.

Antony sets another; been slow to settle in or achieve any consistency this season, but there are signs from the past few games that he's starting to click into gear (and he certainly has all the ingredients). His attitude, commitment, desire to be involved, courage to ask for the ball, defensive workrate and running have all been exemplary. Now, as it starts to pay off, he'll be a difficult-to-ignore example for Sancho; same age, also a big transfer fee, mirror positions and similar roles in the team. For a man-manager, that sort of comparison is gold-dust.
Two seasons is more than enough time. Better players than Sancho have been called flops in less time.

It doesn't make sense to compare Rashford and Sancho because Rashford has consistently performed well in the Premier League, while Sancho has not. Despite recurring injuries, Rashford was rushed to play when not fully fit.

It may be in everyone's best interest to move on from Sancho. While there may be potential for him to be a good player, that shouldn't be Ten Hag's focus, particularly if rumors of Sancho's disciplinary issues are true. Failing quickly is better than dragging out the process. United has several players who have been on the team for too long and have not met expectations, such as Phil Jones, Scott McTominay, Donny Van Beek (who was a player Ten Hag had worked with for years) and Harry Maguire. Sancho unfortunately falls into the same category.
 

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Sancho was decent enough in the first 30 minutes, but for some reason completely collapsed in the second half. Concern is warranted.
 

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Sancho was decent enough in the first 30 minutes, but for some reason completely collapsed in the second half. Concern is warranted.
TBH that's pretty much how his career has gone at Utd so far - looks decent enough when everything's going well. But when it gets tough or things aren't going his/the team's way, goes missing. Completely unreliable player.
 

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If I were EtH, I'd see how Sancho approach this summer off months. Whether he's taking extra effort to get better, or he doesn't care and it's just business as usual. If the former, I'd invest more effort on him. If the later, he's a lost hope and would send him away.
 

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If he cant play RW or Right IF he needs to go. We have enough on left who can produce.
 

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It's a strange thing with Sancho; when he has a bad involvement, he often follows it up with an even worse on. It's like he's losing it a bit.

I've been backing Sancho all the way to become good for us, but I most admit I'm starting having serious doubts if he has the mental strength that is needed.
 

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Sancho was decent enough in the first 30 minutes, but for some reason completely collapsed in the second half. Concern is warranted.
Yes, a bit like the Chelsea game when he had to take a loooong brake after. I'm worried.
 

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One positive I've noticed about Sancho is his incredible composure. I wonder sometimes if his critics mistake that for insouciance. That's not to say either way how I feel about him overall; just pointing out one attribute.
 

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Crikey didn't realise he was that bad. Did we not look into this before we signed him?
I know, this just amazes me, out of our £1bn valued squad, we've probably committed 8% roughly to one player and the due diligence seems to be so weak.

Who's got the authority to make an investment of that magnitude?
 

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I'd like to see how he plays when we have a proper no. 9. But even the lack of a striker doesn't excuse his continuously meek displays. Far from convinced and will be very surprised if EtH manages to turn him into a proper player.
Yeah, I felt the club has been very accommodating to try and get him firing with the special training but I'm thinking now it's more likely just a young guy, makes a ton of money and has a poor attitude at work, simple as that.

If that's the case I don't think EtH will want any passengers.
 
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