Must be missing something. Maybe Nice consistently finished in top 4 or even challenged for a title in the last few years.
And there are many of them.
clubs has been financially backed by their owners since the beginning of football. Manchester United wouldn't have existed if a couple of investors hasn't came in and saved the day.
This has been discussed to death though, keeping on Avi and Joel Glazer could well be the only way we can get them to cede control.. if that's the only chance we have with the ability to push them out from the inside then feck I'd take it anyday.
The is the level of gullible Ratcliff wants the fans to be.
Our decline started long before SAF left. Ronaldo's money wasn't invested, players grew old and yet we kept squeezing every inch of juice left etc. As Scholes once said, there's something wrong in the club when your best CMs are at the wrong end of their 30s
I would rather that they stay and sell to better buyer in next year or two than selling to Sir Jim at this current conditions.
And do you honestly think Ratcliffe would have the same level of commitment and deliver the same type of decision making at a new 6b asset which he cares far more about?
Even so, West Ham is way down the list of clubs for clicks. It seems the story came from Spanish press too, which makes it all the more odd.
He didnt even manage to keep his promise about consistent european football though. Surely it wouldnt take that much to at least get second every year.
Agreed with this.
No one is saying he lacks commitment. Being good at business doesnt mean you have the talent to run a football club. Boehly springs to mind.
Thats a way because Ratcliff offered this option to those parasites. He has no money to outright buy the club.
What is a better buyer? Nobody can be judged until they have been here to be bad or good, surely?
Why is that hard to believe? Did you believe Moyes would suddenly turn into a SAF after moving from a mid table club to the champions?
Well in case of Ineos and Ratcliffe you can look at his other clubs and that paints a very bleak picture.
They played in European football three times since the 70s before Jim took over. In the four years since, they’ve been in European competition twice, including the quarters of the Conference League.
No billionaire got their money from hard work and smart decisions. Jim's a cnut, just like all the others.
Thats still far from his promise and look at the fans. They are as unhappy with Ineos as we are with the Glazers.
So whatever there is coming out of Nice regarding how they are being managed must be all bs?
Play the hits, Harry.Simply having money doesn't equal success. There's a whole lot of football and other factors that come into play. You can minimise the effect of those factors by spending a lot, but has he done that? He himself said that buying Nice was a bit of an experiment into how to make a football club financially self sufficient and build it to something bigger. I don't think it was ever a project for him to pump millions/billions into and we don't know how far along in their overall plan that they are.
The issue at Nice wasn't a lack of commitment but more of giving jobs to incompetent people whom in turn keeps making the same fecking mistakes. One of whom is Bob Ratcliffe whose head of football at INEOS while the other is cyclist Brailsford who accompanied SJR at Carrington. I am also not comfortable with having an owner who can't be arsed to manage his clubs correctly
Of course he could buy it outright but where would the sense in that be when he can offset tax on his major business INEOS by adding debt.
I made my point pretty clear but let me spell it out for you once again , most of posters claiming to care so much about human rights and plight of Qatari people actually lack substance they are just Virtue signalling ,
You're just jealous it's not yours.
Nothing new has been said for about 1430 pages.
That is the thing. Ineos have history in owning a club that can be judged. Plus with them there is no full sale, isn't it?
They haven't said they intend to purchase the shares on the stock market. They're interested in buying all the Glazer shares though, although they'll settle for the 50.1% if they can't convince the Glazers to sell now.
There is no guarantee that they will convince them to sell the rest later.
From what I heard the plan was to get them to commit, legally, to selling at a particular point if not now, rather than hoping they decide to sell later.
Well done putting 2+2 together and getting 5. I’m not claiming they’re working miracles, but there’s no doubt that Nice are not a top club in France. European football 50% of the time is a massive improvement for them.
His age isn’t an issue really, they’ll be a succession plan you would imagine, but it’s a small concern as to who will take over and how much interest they have in keeping Manchester United at the top. They might even sell should he pop his clogs, which would probably put us in the hands of a Middle Eastern state anyway, but INEOS would be a billion or so richer.
