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Mason Greenwood (Please post respectfully)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I’m way behind on all things Mason Greenwood. I’m aware that he has been cleared by law enforcement authorities, but has his girlfriend and her family forgiven him?
Apologies if this is a bonehead question.
Apologies if this is a bonehead question.
My ability to be moderately friendly to people on this forum (sometimes) is rather dependent on me not knowing they're like this.
Think it's important for the club to take a strong stand against misogyny at a time when it's on the rise amongst young men.
We do have to think bigger as an historic institution about our impact on society and culture, as well as how to win football matches.
We do have to think bigger as an historic institution about our impact on society and culture, as well as how to win football matches.
Yeah, but a second chance at having a life. He doesn't have a right to a second chance at being a millionaire footballer at Manchester United.
I think the poll question should be "Would you be open to Mason Greenwood returning next year?" rather than "Do you want Mason Greenwood to return next year?"
Lots of conditionals in play.
Lots of conditionals in play.
This. I was under the impression that the yes vote was more about giving a second chance than excusing him for his actions.
At the time it happened the audio recording was enough for him to be finished at the club, don’t believe anything that has happened in the meantime changes that.
I think sponsors won’t want anything to do with him, Nike have made sure everyone knows he has no association with them and that would be the consensus I’m sure. I think he’d regret coming back to PL as well, he’d be better off playing abroad.
I think sponsors won’t want anything to do with him, Nike have made sure everyone knows he has no association with them and that would be the consensus I’m sure. I think he’d regret coming back to PL as well, he’d be better off playing abroad.
So was I and somebody answered they had and are expected a kid. It seems to complicate things a lot.
How is it hypocritical? It’s not up to us if other clubs don’t have a shred of moral fibre and choose to give him a contract and playing time, it’s up to us to see that he doesn’t represent Man Utd in any way shape or form ever again.
You are reaching.
Just a reminder: We lost the FA Cup Final to Gundogain, a player who could (and did) score equally well with both feet. Now Mason Greenwood possessed similar skillset. Imagine what could he do if he was the one coming on instead of Weghorst?
It's weird because the "No" camp are full of memorable posters who have a presence on the forum and the "Yes" lot are seemingly nameless wasters who you might only briefly remember for posting something incomprehensibly stupid in a player thread or the club sale one. Can some of the "Yes" posters confirm that is the case please.
Eh it's just a question. It is similar in the "one option is better for us on a pitch, but comes with morality black spots, while the other is worse on the pitch but morality wise it is clean". Like I said, people are entitled to their views, but it is a valid comparison because it is comparing desire for team success to some morality issues, and what level of wrongdoing crosses the line where it would be a no. So for you, you are a no for Greenwood with his situation, but are ok with Qatar because... They aren't directly representing United on the field?
Nice to see the caf is so lite on domestic abuse.
BuT He KiCks GoOd BaLl.
BuT He KiCks GoOd BaLl.
Anyone thinking he's going to do an interview, admit it and do a mea culpa will be waiting a long time. Charges have been dropped due to lack of evidence. There isn't a hope he's going to admit anything publically, on camera.
Or rather, imagine if we had Kane for a full 90.
A very easy no.
If it was just accusation with no audio recording then you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Audio makes it impossible for him to continue.
The more interesting question is, can you sell him and how much can you get for him? Or do you just have to cancel his contract because you can't find a buyer? If we can get a small fee for him that's better than nothing.
He would need to be sold abroad where they're unaware of the audio or don't really care, or not enough people speak English to even understand the audio. Which countries could he realistically go to?
He's an £80+m talent if we sold him under normal circumstances, if we can get half that it's a bonus to the club considering it looked like he was a write off at one point.
If it was just accusation with no audio recording then you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Audio makes it impossible for him to continue.
The more interesting question is, can you sell him and how much can you get for him? Or do you just have to cancel his contract because you can't find a buyer? If we can get a small fee for him that's better than nothing.
He would need to be sold abroad where they're unaware of the audio or don't really care, or not enough people speak English to even understand the audio. Which countries could he realistically go to?
He's an £80+m talent if we sold him under normal circumstances, if we can get half that it's a bonus to the club considering it looked like he was a write off at one point.
It's easy to make that judgement based on the audio, but beyond that, we know nothing else.
The police/CPS investigated this extensively, beyond what you often see in sexual assault cases due to the publicity surrounding it and in the end were unable to proceed. Bar a brief statement, we do not know why.
fecking hell, we just have to find a decent striker and that does not have to be Mason
Mason is a scum. Never let him back to the club.
I really don't see the difference.
Is this more important to you than the message it sends?
Just a reminder: Mason was caught on audio allegedly raping a girl. Imagine if he didn't allegedly rape a girl.
I took a quick look at the usernames, I am happy I didn’t recognize any of them.
Expecting a kid, getting married and Tik Tokking together as a couple.
This poll needs to be redone:
1. If he comes out with a genuine interview in which he's humble, remorseful and actively seeking therapy.
2. Yes.
3. No.
Or something like that. It cannot be a straightforward yes or no without any added context.
1. If he comes out with a genuine interview in which he's humble, remorseful and actively seeking therapy.
2. Yes.
3. No.
Or something like that. It cannot be a straightforward yes or no without any added context.
You taking the fecking piss ?
Like it or not, Mason has not been found guilty of any offences and is free to live his life as he wishes. It is not up to society to decide innocen
The sad reality is that lots of footballers we’ve idolised over the years and I’m sure many in the future have been scummy individuals. Some of Ronaldo’s and Giggs’ alleged behaviour is just as bad or potentially worse.
I think he should be brought back into the fold and hope that this episode has taught him lessons to make him a better man
The sad reality is that lots of footballers we’ve idolised over the years and I’m sure many in the future have been scummy individuals. Some of Ronaldo’s and Giggs’ alleged behaviour is just as bad or potentially worse.
I think he should be brought back into the fold and hope that this episode has taught him lessons to make him a better man
Guilty or not, that video damns him. Audio rather.
Yes Qatar and no Greenwood? You'd rather murder someone than beat someone? Both scenarios are messed up imo but hey City have blood money funding them and are praised for it so who am I to judge. Might as well let everyone in.
I said when it all came out he would play for the club again & many iTKs were stating he would not. Guess we’ll see how many people walk away come next season. . .
No thanks. Feck off
It’s called basic human decency, you should try it, it’s nice.
They're getting married. Nothing complicated about it.
*statutory rape. There is a big difference.
They were unable to proceed because she refused to press charges, no? After her hown father came out in defence of Mason. I
Rashford at the time posted a gushing post of him with his GFriend. There is no solidarity in that dressing room for Greenwood.
The thing is, and I’m not saying this in a sarcy way - you obviously believe he is guilty, but many who’ve voted ‘yes’ may not believe that. It’s important to remember that.
Charges for assault can’t be dropped by the complainant - only by the police or crown prosecution.
We’ve been told that new evidence is what has caused ALL CHARGES to be dropped.
I remember when Pete Doherty from The Libertines got done for breaking into Carl Barat’s flat and Barat was begging the police, publicly, to drop the charges, but they wouldn’t do so, despite the fact it was his flat, and Doherty was found guilty and went to prison.
If new evidence has caused the police to drop charges we should respect that over things we have no real knowledge of or information on.
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