[reddev3]

Utter hyperbolic nonsense. You don’t win the golden glove being one of the worst keepers in the league. He got 17 clean sheets, closest to him were Alison, Pope and Ramsdale on 14. Henderson got 6, and the man some tip to replace him, Raya, got 12. League winning Ederson kept 11 clean sheets.

You don't win it by being the best or worst or anything in between, you win it by being in the best defensive team and you proved that by saying Alison only kept 14 clean sheets compared to De Gea's 17.

Alison is miles better than De Gea and even made more saves than De Gea did this year playing a game less (a game they conceded 4 without him in) yet he didn't get close to the golden glove because Liverpool are crap at defending.

Raya who you're digging out for only keeping 12 clean sheets also made 154 saves to De Gea's 101 so again you are inadvertently proving the point that the golden glove and clean sheets total is more to do with the team and not much to do with the keeper.

He's crap.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

Anyone who blames him for Gundogan’s first is being harsh on the latter if anything. Gundogan’s strike was perfect. No goalkeeper would have saved that unless they were awkwardly positioned in the goal.

The second was poor from him. But that’s not why I’d want him replaced.

I get nervous when he’s on the ball. Even when he’s not under pressure, I have no confidence in him starting an attack at all.

 

[eire-red]

Still can't fathom how the second goal went in. And it was so frustrating watching him punt the ball on Ruben Dias' head time after time.

CF and GK are absolutely priorities this window in order to compete.

 

[giggs-beckham]

Just in case anyone wants to look at this again. He's not been good enough for a while now and he has always been piss poor at collecting crosses or coming off his line. He along with Martial should be really leaving in the summer. Their time has come to an end sadly.

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[Sir Erik ten Hag]

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[stw2022]

Time to go. Best keeper we've ever had though.

 

[Remember the geese]

Best keeper we've ever had though.

Are you drunk?

 

[BorisManUtd]

Time to go. Best keeper we've ever had though.

He'll probably get new 2-year contract though and stay as 2nd option. And as much as De Gea has been great for us for years don't think he's our best ever GK. Schmeichel and VDS better.

 

[stw2022]

Are you drunk?

No. He's been world class in his time and over a longer period than either Schmeichel or (for us) VDS.

 

[gajender]

Time to go. Best keeper we've ever had though.

He has overstayed his welcome by long let's leave it at that .

 

[Remember the geese]

No. He's been world class in his time and over a longer period than either Schmeichel or (for us) VDS.

He isn't even close to being as good as they were. They could actually command their area.

 

[stw2022]

His style of play or distribution doesn't suit how the manager wants us to play. That's fine. And individual errors are now creeping into his game more frequently. Both those things can be true and acknowledging he's been a superb keeper over the years and had a great career here.

 

[stw2022]

He isn't even close to being as good as they were. They could actually command their area.

Goalkeeping has changed though. Same as the type of keeper De Gea is now isn't the best fit in the modern game. Things change.

Barthez was probably ahead of his time in terms of his use of the ball at his feet and distribution yet often cut a somewhat ridiculous figure back then.

Not convinced peak Schmeichel or VDS in this era would necessarily be keepers sought after by the top managers as neither played the game like top managers today seem to want keepers to do. That isn't a criticism of either of them. DDG is now in the same boat

 

[gajender]

Goalkeeping has changed though. Same as the type of keeper De Gea is now isn't the best fit in the modern game. Things change .

Nonsense De Gea is someone who actually lacks in fundamentals that's why he would have been misfit in Every Era , just far too limited only excelled at Shot Stopping which was fine as youngster breaking through with time on his side to develop , but unfortunately he just never worked on or just couldn't improve on his weaknesses which is a Shame really .

 

[MadDogg]

No. He's been world class in his time and over a longer period than either Schmeichel or (for us) VDS.

De Gea was at the club longer than they were. But his last five seasons have been below average (if I'm being kind) and he struggled for his first season, so he was only 'world class' for five or six seasons in total. Schmeichel was at an even higher level for basically his entire time here bar his last season, so that is seven seasons of him being arguably the best in the world. Even VDS was at the top for at least as long, being consistently great for all six seasons he had here.

So no, they were at the top level for as long or longer than De Gea, and they were both far more all-rounded keepers who had a larger contribution to the team's performances as a whole. And they didn't end up being poor for literally half their career here like what De Gea has done.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But anyone saying De Gea has been a better keeper for Utd than Schmeichel is fecking wrong.

 

[RuudTom83]

In the last month of his contract (right?)

DDG has not had the best last few weeks to try and get a juicy extension.

Probably time to let him go and try something different.

 

[BorisManUtd]

No. He's been world class in his time and over a longer period than either Schmeichel or (for us) VDS.

I'd say De Gea was WC in 2013-2018 period. Won bunch of POTY awards in that period and was one top player we had. But that was 5 years ago. 5 years is really long period.

 

[DRJosh]

No. He's been world class in his time and over a longer period than either Schmeichel or (for us) VDS.

He has bailed us out of many games but I suspect his impact has been somewhat overstated by fans because of how shockingly bad our backline was (post Sir Alex) until now, where there is some semblance solidity and DDG has emerged as the weakest link at the back.

 

[stw2022]

He has bailed us out of many games but I suspect his impact has been somewhat overstated by fans because of how shockingly bad our backline was (post Sir Alex) until now, where there is some semblance solidity and DDG has emerged as the weakest link at the back.

Now, yes. His style and attributes are far going out of fashion with the modern game and how successful clubs ask of their keepers. There's no denying that. Doesn't change my view that for 8 or 9 years he was brilliant for us

 

[Bebestation]

Feel like ten hag has improved de gea (ball playing etc) but he isnt good enough anymore

 

[Plant0x84]

I seem to have struck a nerve. Sorry about that

 

[Remember the geese]

Goalkeeping has changed though. Same as the type of keeper De Gea is now isn't the best fit in the modern game. Things change.

Barthez was probably ahead of his time.

De Gea's weaknesses are often excused as 'oh but he isn't a modern goalkeeper'. The truth is that his shortcomings would be shown up in any generation. For a while he was a top class shot stopper and that papered over the cracks. However, that hasn't been the case for 5 years now, so what are we left with? A keeper who can't organise a defence, dominate his 6 yard box (let alone his area), has poor distribution and with no redeeming qualities.

 

[thebelfastboy]

Goalkeeping has changed though. Same as the type of keeper De Gea is now isn't the best fit in the modern game. Things change.

Barthez was probably ahead of his time in terms of his use of the ball at his feet and distribution yet often cut a somewhat ridiculous figure back then.

Not convinced peak Schmeichel or VDS in this era would necessarily be keepers sought after by the top managers as neither played the game like top managers today seem to want keepers to do. That isn't a criticism of either of them. DDG is now in the same boat

That's complete nonsense - two of the best keepers to ever have played the game and would walk into pretty much any team at the minute, city aside maybe.

 

[King7Eric]

Feel like ten hag has improved de gea (ball playing etc) but he isnt good enough anymore

I can't remember a single long ball yesterday that was near one of our players' head. It's been the same for years. I honestly can't understand what it will take for this club to replace him.

He's just shambolic. In my 20 years of supporting Utd I've seen many a bad players but I don't think I've been as fed up of anyone as him. At least the likes of Maguire, Fred, McT etc get dropped, yet he stands there like a scarecrow that doesn't scare anyone except his teammates.

 

[Remember the geese]

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But anyone saying De Gea has been a better keeper for Utd than Schmeichel is fecking wrong.

Yes, some opinions are just incorrect.

 

[stw2022]

That's complete nonsense - two of the best keepers to ever have played the game and would walk into pretty much any team at the minute, city aside maybe.

What particularly impressed you about Schmeichel with the ball at his feet?

 

[ThanksBoss26]

Now, yes. His style and attributes are far going out of fashion with the modern game and how successful clubs ask of their keepers. There's no denying that. Doesn't change my view that for 8 or 9 years he was brilliant for us

Agreed, given us great service on the whole.

His time as first choice should be absolutely done clearly. I'm certain he'll stay - wouldn't surprise me if that new contract is signed and just not been announced for some reason. Either way I expect it's too late for a u-turn. Ten Hag's interview with Winter last week though suggest he knows a change is needed.

 

[Remember the geese]

What particularly impressed you about Schmeichel with the ball at his feet?

Let's say for a second that Schmeichel's distribution was just as shit as De Gea's. Do you not agree that his ability to organise a defence, claim crosses, command his area and lead a team through sheer force of personality far outweighs anything that De Gea has to offer? Schmeichel was also just as good a shot stopper as peak De Gea.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

No. He's been world class in his time and over a longer period than either Schmeichel or (for us) VDS.

DDG was a world class shot stopper from 2013-2018. 5 years

Schmeichel was a world class all round keeper spanning 8 years. 1991-1999. His huge and scarily accurate distribution with his throws was a huge weapon.

VDS was a world class all round goalkeeper spanning 5 years, from 2005-2010.

Prime DDG was nowhere near either as a all round goalkeeper.

 

[edgecutter]

This guy has cost nearly a 100 million on wages from the last 5 years. It simply isn't good enough

 

[edgecutter]

No. He's been world class in his time and over a longer period than either Schmeichel or (for us) VDS.

Fecking hell, did you start watching united from 2014?

 

[stw2022]

Let's say for a second that Schmeichel's distribution was just as shit as De Gea's. Do you not agree that his ability to organise a defence, claim crosses, command his area and lead a team through sheer force of personality far outweighs anything that De Gea has to offer? Schmeichel was also just as good a shot stopper as peak De Gea.

I don't see force of personality being particularly high on the agenda. There's no denying Schmeichel is a legend but pretending the game hasn't moved on from that style of keeper is ridiculous. There are far more keepers like De Gea in the game as the suited the way teams played for much of the last 15 years. Now it's moved on again.

Pretending the game doesn't move on because we like to think our childhood heroes would with just as well in 2023 as they did 1993 just because you're a bit annoyed someone said they like one player more than the other, doesn't work.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

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[Djemba-Djemba]

I don't see force of personality being particularly high on the agenda. There's no denying Schmeichel is a legend but pretending the game hasn't moved on from that style of keeper is ridiculous. There are far more keepers like De Gea in the game as the suited the way teams played for much of the last 15 years. Now it's moved on again.

Pretending the game doesn't move on because we like to think our childhood heroes would with just as well in 2023 as they did 1993 just because you're a bit annoyed someone said they like one player more than the other, doesn't work.

Did you actually watch Schmeichel at Utd?

How old are you?

i can't fathom how anyone could have seen them both at Utd and decided De Gea was better.

Schmeichel is arguably the greatest goalkeeper of all time, he was an integral part of us dominating English football and winning the treble.

 

[CM]

The only reason De Gea has a chance of being at the club next season is because there is so much flux. At a stable club he’d be clearing his locker on Monday morning.
Have to be ruthless. Always hard to get rid of someone who has served the club well but it’s blindingly obvious he needs replaced. Second highest priority after a centre forward.

That might be true but the fact that we are a bit of a mess makes it even more important we get rid. We can't afford to carry any passengers because the general level of quality in the team isn't as good as a couple of others in the league.

I really hope the praise Ten Hag was giving to De Gea was solely for the purpose of massaging De Gea's ego before some of these bigger games at the end of the season. It's beyond madness if the intention is to actually keep him.

 

[Nero]

Wondered how long it would be until the most pretentious man on the internet chimed in.

 

[sugar_kane]

I really hope the praise Ten Hag was giving to De Gea was solely for the purpose of massaging De Gea's ego before some of these bigger games at the end of the season. It's beyond madness if the intention is to actually keep him.

It completely was. De Gea is mentally fragile and Ten Hag knew he needed to build him up not tear him down.

It’s very telling that his comments around our GK position were a lot less positive after our final game of the season.

 

[Idxomer]

I don't see force of personality being particularly high on the agenda. There's no denying Schmeichel is a legend but pretending the game hasn't moved on from that style of keeper is ridiculous. There are far more keepers like De Gea in the game as the suited the way teams played for much of the last 15 years. Now it's moved on again.

Pretending the game doesn't move on because we like to think our childhood heroes would with just as well in 2023 as they did 1993 just because you're a bit annoyed someone said they like one player more than the other, doesn't work.

Why didn't you answer any of the questions in his post? You made a laughable and trollish claim of De Gea being our greatest keeper. Even if Schmeichel isn't suited to this era which isn't true anyway, he's still a far greater keeper than De Gea.

 

[NLunited]

Gea had a poor game but criticism is over the top.

First goal: you lot want DeGea to dive for an unsaveable volley. Get a grip.

Second goal: he could have saved it, but it is not an easy one. It goes through the legs of someone, he expects it to get blocked, it bobbles and bends away towards the far post. On another day he saves it.

To call that second goal a big mistake is harsh. Bigger mistakes were made by the defense. Both goals were flukes.

Distribution: switch Ortega and DeGea and the numbers look much the same. You cannot compare the performance of both when they are playing with different players and different tactics.

Can we use an upgrade on DeGea? Yes, but the hate here is mental. Will it fix all our problems with playing out the back? No sirs.