Ratcliffe bud gives him control. I don’t know why you’re disputing that.
Well people keep saying watch him buy Liverpool, their valuation isn’t far from us and owners don’t want to sell. They also need a new stadium and have dept. Bar a few hundred mil not sure why people are worried he’d buy scousers when it’s a similar situation.
I mentioned something similar about how Jassim could be an individual/family buying United. With the state benefiting and offering the investment for the surrounding area
That bid was face saving exercise without doubt
Could be a reality.
How does it save face?
Maybe the Glazers have/had no intention to sell......
To be fair, this is the second Jassim bid since the Glazer set deadline.
But.. that they wanted to stay all along means that they were unlikely to have sold to Qatar then and nothing will have changed? I have no doubt they'd have sold to Qatar if they had actually paid up the 6billion to which they have reportedly asked for since the beginning of this process, but not once through multiple bids have they come anywhere close, i'm not saying what they are asking for isn't excessive, because it is, but you'd think Qatar/SJ is rich enough to pay what is essentially 800 million or so more.
I don't think United will be worse under Ineos than the Glazers. An Ineos-owned United might not be in a position to spend billions on new players to overthrow state-backed City, but there's no particular reason why we'd decline and drift into mediocrity, either. We'll probably stay pretty much where we have been for the last 10 years - a team that finishes somewhere between 2nd and 5th most seasons and wins an occasional trophy. It's not where we were under Fergie, but it is still likely to be better than the sort of experience 95% of football fans generally have following their team.
Decent midfield if we get Rabiot tooBarkley, Aaron Ramsey, Kasper Schmeichel were all signed last year.
That’s 160m on Rice and Mount to Utd confirmed for this summer then
Garbage sources have been very accurate. For Jassim’s side of things.
Oh yes, it is so funny to have Glazers and failed owner of TWO clubs running our club together. Top 4 will be our main goal from now on.
Not here for condescending garbage like this. It's not "Feck the Glazers" - its Glazers OUT. That message has been clear for aeons.
So Ineos took over Nice in August 2019, start of 19/20. Right at the start of COVID which throws a wrench into a lot of things. In the 10 years prior to his takeover, Nice were (sorted from oldest to most recent):
They own 69.5% class B shares and 4.3% class A shares. So they benefit more from selling now with selling their class A shares too.
The difference is we actually have money and our own spending money. We can fund much of our own business. What we need is an owner who can pay off the debt and invest in the structure of the club. Also an owner who doesn’t take dividends out of the club for their own personal gain. I’d actually go as far to say that if jassim came in and made us debt free, spent money on the club were one of the few that would actually be better off for it. We’re not city. We’re not Wigan that won the lottery ticket. We can actually be very self sufficient. Once the club is bought up to where it should be, the club will fund itself. we have that power. Jassim will know that too. He will need to spend big to begin with, afterwards it will self run.
Do you read the thread from Page 1 every time you open it?
Your wish is about to come true. Congratulations.
ummm his last two bids were also "final take it or leave it" bids ........
No they haven't? What, where did you get this from, classic example of what i've been saying in this thread people are just making stuff up to get mad about. SJ's new reported bid is around 5.2 million pounds with another 1 billion pounds pledged on top for the club itself (not to the Glazers) and this is for all of the Glazers shares. Ratcliffe/INEOS is reportedly around 5.5 billion for only the controlling stake, whilst he buys them out of the rest of his shares in due course (likely to be 2/3 years), meaning that the Glazers will get a good wedge now and then more money a few years down the line when they eventually leave for good.
The pledged amount is now in addition to what the Glazers get. If I’m not mistaken before it was $X billion of which $1b was pledged to things the Glazers don’t care about. So should make a bit difference
Pretty certain they had no intention of entertaining the 4th or 5th bids. That explains why they never heard back about last one
Jim Ratcliffe has placed a bid that values the club shares at £5bn+. Jassim has placed a bid that gives the club an EV of £5bn+.
What the hell are you on about? you're merging multiple Jim offers together and trying to tell me im making stuff up
4 years before his arrival they finished twice in top4. Not once he managed that, not only that, he made them worse, took them to 9th twice. They were on better terms before he came. Imagine a new owner coming, promising to improve the club, but takes it backwards. Stop trying to make his Nice ownership any positive.
This is not true, they also own 4.3% A shares which will need to be purchased as well this bid of £5.2bn is for controlling shares of 69% and future merchandising and commercial broadcast contracts, this bid is to the Glazers to buy their controlling B shares, SJ group are paying $35 per share which is $3.95bn plus they are paying a premium of $2.5bn to the Glazers to compensate them for future profits which would arise from commercial and broadcasting contracts. I have included Forbes link for people to understand that full 100% valuation now is based on a Forbes valuation plus a premium required by the Glazers. The $6.5bn would be minus the current club debt of $1bn so the glazers would get from what I understand $5.5bn now between the 6 siblings right now. They would also get a further $200m from selling their A shares in the next 6-8 weeks at $30 per share.
I’d rather my team be good and not be owned by another crap owner.
