I don’t know who thinks we’ll have unlimited money to invest but so far Sheikh Jassim is offering to wipe the clubs debt and pledging a further 1 billion investment into the club something Ratcliffe isn’t offering. The club generates enough money to sustain itself anyway, we don’t need unlimited money pumped in from the owners.
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It’s between 2.4-2.6 for the 50.1%
Newcastle cost $415m…
Jassim can afford to bid $6.5b for Utd…
So, he’s literally just bid SIX BILLION dollars more than what Newcastle was sold for.
He can (and defo will imo) easily buy basically any other PL team and still afford to put a few billion into the club for less than this bid, as he should do, and punish the Glazers for their greed and insolence.
Make no mistake, this a huge bid for an asset that the Glazers have recklessly mismanaged and run into the ground.
The guy is bidding $6.5 just to them and pledging, publicly, to additionally free our club from the Glazers’ debt.
They should be fecking hounded by Utd fans if they refuse this. This is new territory for them and us all.
This is our chance to be free of them at last.
Unless Glazers want to hang onto United, taking more money right now from Qatar is better deal for them
Pretty stupid question.
Time for those greedy scum bags to make a decision.
Ultimately the Sheikh bid would need to match or beat the money Glazers will get from their binding put/call options on their shares.
Because there's like 10 Qatari fans for every person that doesn't want United to become a scummy oil club, and there's way too much made up bullshit against Ratcliffe and way too much made up bullshit in favor of Jassim.
When someone is bringing up all the unethical stuff Ratcliffe and Ineos have done in the last 20 years but at the same time begging for a despotic regime with systematical human rights abuses over its own people, women and migrants from mostly South East Asia...then they are colossal bellends.
Siege mentality, you know.
Or they just don't want an owner who's got a history of absolute failure within Football?? Crazy i know!
A sugar daddy owner with ratcliffe's levels of resources should not need 9 years to make a team that was finishing 6th on average in the 4 years before the takeover, to become competitive in the French league
Control is not full control though is it, and that will be reflected in holding of Class B voting shares 49% of which will still be retained by the Glazers. So the idea that we can be sure they won't be making decisions, or at least having a say in them/blocking other decisions is deluded and probably wrong without seeing the articles.
There is a lot of uncertainty around this proposal in addition to maintaining Glazer influence which is exactly why the majority are so vehemently against it. They aren't here purely to see a hike in share value. Their retained shares hold voting rights.
Jesus feck these boys don't stop.
A new owner will have 0 impact on how we do next season, being realistic. It takes a long time for an owner to have a real lasting impact. Just like how one of our most successful periods in our history came in the immediate 8 years following the Glazers' takeover. The owner doesn't play, or manage the team. They make decisions that set the club up for future improvement, make a structure that allows better recruitment, provide funds while keeping a club sustainable and not go into big debts, and appoint the right manager to coach the club in modern way. That is not an easy thing to do. It is easier at a big club, it is easier in the prem just because of natural attraction, but it also takes a shit ton of of time for it to actually have a real impact. Nice being 5th and 9th vs 8th and 4th is pretty much an irrelevant difference in terms of judging the owner. You look at 10 years and they were a yo-yo mid table club. They have remained so. It's simply too soon to say how they are as owners of Nice, and owning Nice is irrelevant for how they will run United.
Yeah think this time it finally is ultimatum bid,however it will be ignored like the last one
Ratcliffe has offered 2.4-2.6 now and potentially 1 billion in 3 years.
Qatar has offered 3.6.
Again. It's different when you take over the club as a sugar daddy who doesn't care about losses vs a normal owner trying to make a team sustainable with long term sustainable improvement (who had the bad luck of taking over right before COVID, which is pretty rough from a sustainability perspective).
all they had to do was drag it out past the end of the season, and they have. now they can drag it on for weeks more as there is no platform for protests etc and they can look to squeeze a few extra hundred million out from whoever. theyve played a blinder. does anyone really think they give a rats bottom (not Jims) about what football fans think about them.
Utd will never, ever be a ‘scummy oil club’. And anyone who thinks otherwise is either an oppo WUM or deeply misguided.Because there's like 10 Qatari fans for every person that doesn't want United to become a scummy oil club, and there's way too much made up bullshit against Ratcliffe and way too much made up bullshit in favor of Jassim.
When someone is bringing up all the unethical stuff Ratcliffe and Ineos have done in the last 20 years but at the same time begging for a despotic regime with systematical human rights abuses over its own people, women and migrants from mostly South East Asia...then they are colossal bellends.
Siege mentality, you know.
Utd is a giant, the biggest club in the biggest league.
Saying we tried
The season before Qatar bought psg they finished 16 points off the top, the next season they finished 3 off the top, the season after they won the league by 12 points
How much is sir Jim ready to invest in the club extra?
Yeah this finally confirms it wasn'tI thought all along the Qatar bid was a state bid, because it just seemed logical, but honestly, its hard to believe it is with the absolutely laughable way they've gone about it? If it was the state, they just come in and smash it don't they, none of this dragging their feet shite. So basically no matter who wins, we're in for a shit show
You think the club is valued at $10 billion?
Because if it was truly a serious bid then they wouldn't have to say things like "take it or leave it".
A huge part of that was the good feeling and optimism around the club of finally being free of Mike Ashley. They got their release and a new dawn under their ownership which certainly isn't the case for United under the SJR bid.
Things around United will remain or get even more toxic and I think that will negatively affect the club.
They've been very hush hush about that, curiously the main thing they've chosen to publicize is getting in bed with the leeches
Come on mate
Jim's plodding along signing Kasper Schmeichel and Ross Barkley whilst finishing 9th and you're trying to spin it as a positive
Sustainable team in France, relegated team in Switzerland 51% bid for United with the Glazers staying on.....nah not for me.
Believe me the rest of the league will be delighted with Jim getting control.
Think there are worries about both bids. I am actually worried about the Quatri bid. Think most it is the idea of THE GLAZERS.
It wouldn't take ridiculous investment in France to make them the closest competition to psg then they would start getting champions league revenues, that seems like a good way to make the team sustainable. If Ratcliffe isn't even willing to invest a hundred million of his own money that doesn't bode well for us
Please explain how, you're suggesting Ratcliffe is offering 3billion but SJ is offering 5.2, so there's absolutely no reason for the Glazers to accept the Ratcliffe bid then
To quote a post below
"Ratcliffe has offered 2.4-2.6 now and potentially 1 billion in 3 years.
Qatar has offered 3.6."
If i'm having such a nightmare please provide a source, i'm willing to be wrong here
When you toot the Qatari gas, anything is possible
People acting as if Qatar essentially matching the INEOS bid is a sign of them walking away?
A lot of wishful thinking and delusion going on
A lot of wishful thinking and delusion going on
Dramatic much?
I don’t think it’s needs to be that high people do not understand what the Glazers are actually getting within both bids, right now they are at £5.2bn another £200m get this done or SJ walks away and the Glazers come back with their tail between their legs next week !
SJR bid is up-from £5bn to £5.7bn over a period of 3-4 years bid initial payment is £2.7bn for 51% controlling shares with more future Payments made for a layered buyout which includes Future Merchandising and broadcasting compensation to the Glazers.
This layered deal allows SJR to then invest in the next two years through Ineos in squad and infrastructure improvements which might raise the share value dependent on success on and off the field.
He thinks £10bn actually so more like 12 billion dollars
If you don't like this 'take it or leave it' offer I have more.
Don't you mean the other way round,can't see that actually happening though
Ratcliffe is literally bidding for half of the club and Jassim for 100% mate.
Why though? A couple of the kids get to come to some games and continue to make money as minority shareholders. I don't see the problem.
Think Jassims played this extremely poorly. You can't just throw a big bag of money at everything and get what you want. SJRs bid was a lot more clever and more tailored towards what the Glazers actually wanted.
Tbh I'd rather have the smarter guy owning my club.
Tbh I'd rather have the smarter guy owning my club.
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