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Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Let’s be honest. Raine will do what the Glazers want for the most money.
As I understand, they're not legally allowed to do that anymore (the Glazer loophole).
I don’t get this reply. It’s easy to believe both bidders are pissed at this stage, especially Jassim who is being out thought and out bid by SJR and potentially ignored by Raine and the Glazers. That’s nothing to do with PR.
Such hyperbole.
We have outspent every oil club going, our problem is poor management at the top... A packet of crisps could run us better.
All it needs is best in class personel in the right positions, the rest takes care of itself.
Why would it be curtains? Just look at our current summer, we can barely spend much because of FFP, Qatar buying us wouldn't really change that. As long as we have owners who don't bleed us dry we'll be fine and competitive. All this nonsense about us being over if we don't have some sugar daddy owner is hyperbole
No such rule sadly. The ‘anti-glazer Clause’ was specific to the Chelsea sale specified by Roman to protect the club.
Correct.
I also don't think lenders will lend to INEOS on the condition an inferior business pays it for them.
Could he even afford Liverpool?
Could Ratcliffe afford ChelseaCould he even afford Liverpool?
Do we trust either to do this. We won't know until it actually happens. If they get it wrong, just as things are looking up it could be disastrous. We do not know what the agendas are for either party with regards to management personel, signings, nevermind the stadium etc. SJR has kept his plan close to his chest while SJ has been saying he will splash the cash, which might be a load of hot air.
He matched the winning bid, so probably!
Ahh I see. He got outmanoeuvred by Chad Boehly then. Brilliant if that’s a sign of things to come!
Cant wait for Saturday.. No more threat of being sold to Qatar. would be a glorious feeling.
Ok so you're just guessing. Even though there is an actual number floating around. And many have been trying to claim all along that this isn't a state bid...so which one is it? Goalpost being moved all over the place here.
So back to my original point, we know Jassim isn't building a new stadium and improving training facilities. So SJR is our only remaining chance - unless the Glazers refinance and do it themselves.
I mean that’s just me putting 2+2 together with the reports we have available. They’ve pledged the £800 million or whatever and said they plan to invest in stadium/training ground/playing squad etc so you have to assume that there is more than just the pledge if that’s what they’re stating.
Everyone is guessing at this stage to some extent. Including you.
Also we don’t know that. That’s just what you think. You seem to be confusing the two things.
Not really outmanoeuvred. He joined the bidding process way too late.
It's probably fair to say that whoever buys us has written off this transfer window and next season, in terms of making an impact.
I suspect they'll use the new season as a bedding in process and just be looking at how best to run things and what to invest in for the 24/25 season. Its too late for anything else now.
I suspect they'll use the new season as a bedding in process and just be looking at how best to run things and what to invest in for the 24/25 season. Its too late for anything else now.
Glazers OUT!
Problem with that is falling out of the following season's CL might cause an impact. We have to maintain that at the very least. If that happens will they take the blame themselves or let the manager be the fall guy when he has been hamstrung.
Amateur
Selective outrage feels so damn good.
According to all reports the pledge is £800m for infrastructure. So to assume this is separate from the stadium is taking a bit of a leap. If that's the case, can we all assume that SJR will clear the debt and build a new stadium, along with funding transfers? There's less proof to say this won't be the case than there is of Jassim, with his £800m. He must think we have the same construction labour rates as Qatar
£800m won't go very far with the type of promises he is apparently talking about.Probably on purpose, as a warning to the Glazers that he will move on to other clubs.
Maybe dad set an amount and the higher the bid he has had to put in, it has come off the money set aside for the other things.The way it is going he will be getting up a ladder himself and giving OT a lick of paint.According to all reports the pledge is £800m for infrastructure. So to assume this is separate from the stadium is taking a bit of a leap. If that's the case, can we all assume that SJR will clear the debt and build a new stadium, along with funding transfers? There's less proof to say this won't be the case than there is of Jassim, with his £800m. He must think we have the same construction labour rates as Qatar
You’re assuming far too much just because it suits your narrative. Ratcliffe hasn’t said anything. How is that confirmation of anything?According to all reports the pledge is £800m for infrastructure. So to assume this is separate from the stadium is taking a bit of a leap. If that's the case, can we all assume that SJR will clear the debt and build a new stadium, along with funding transfers? There's less proof to say this won't be the case than there is of Jassim, with his £800m. He must think we have the same construction labour rates as Qatar
Nothing glorious about the Glazers potentially staying as part of the INEOS bid
That’s just fiction though isn’t it.
This is the issue we have with SJR. Until he buys us, then who knows what his plans are. He might have big plans or there might be a few of his supporters who will feel a tad let down.
You were all happy to claim this pledge is the main selling point of Jassim. So which one is it? Now you are denying the pledge because it's been pointed out that it's actually not enough.
Seems you lot need to start giving SJR more consideration as, like you said, you are guessing about everything regarding him. Pot, kettle, black and all.
This whole sorry saga is much more than a takeover, it's a battle for the soul of the club, it desperately needs owners with integrity.
So is absolutely everything you say about SJR. And all those shite tweets you hang your hat on daily.
We've been here before in the FDJ thread and it didn't end well for you.
A lot of the stuff coming out is just how much dosh they are going to put in the Glazer's piggy banks, not what then happens after that. Fans just want the Glazers gone. What happens after is the most important thing, not how richer the Glazers will be.
The difference between you and me is I’m not presenting my opinion as widely known fact. You can be snarky all you like but the irrefutable evidence is that Jassim has stated that he will invest. Ratcliffe hasn’t. End of story.
More will become clearer in time.
Compared to where PSG were prior to the takeover, I say they did more than okay.
What they achieved in French domestic football for the last decade compares with what Bayern Munich also managed to do in the Bundesliga. I would honestly kill to see United have the same kind of domestic domination in England. Whether that kind of domination could be used as a springboard for European domination or not, that's another topic.
What specifically do you take issue with that I have stated about Ratcliffe that isn’t true?
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