Yeah that will be happening too
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Apparently you’re fake mate @Messier1994
Sorry mate it was only half serious but the point is we dont really need a money cheat, just sensible owners
Who is that sensible owner then
If it’s any consolation, once Liverpool and Chelsea are back to usual business, coupled with Newcastle, City and Arsenal, there probably won’t be too many cup finals for them to be going to unless serious investment is made in Utd.
Trouble is it’s their club to sell, they can do whatever they like.
100% this. I have said it several times that there is no way Qatar would lose this opportunity to own a sports washers wet dream and go head to head with their rivals in the premier league. They also would hate to lose face from the other gulf states that have successfully bought clubs. The Ratcliffe fan boys conveniently skirt over this though because it makes Jim and the glazers more palatable and they can claim a moral victory.
The way I read the Swedish Ramble thread is that there is a fixed lower amount (which is probably inflation protected) but it could be higher should the overall value of the club begin to rise. A number of TV deals are up for renewal soon and Direct Streaming has to be on the Premier League's mind which could send things into orbit for them. Obviously with investment in infrastructure and the renewal of our kit deal and a refocusing on marketing strategy, it could be a bumper couple of years before those tranches kick in.
Anyone not named Glazer
Yeah that's why I made most of this season,unfortunately I couldn't get ticket for Carabao but made it to the two FA Cup trips to Wembley albeit in a losing cause
Are we talking about a hedge fund here?
And how they are going to decide the price is the question. That's why I agree with Ramble's take that its too close to call.
e.g. Renewal money from sponsorship etc will increase our revenue, but may not impact stock price at all. SJR & Glazers might agree on a revenue number that they have to hit in 3 years for their respective put & call option (Strike).
They will be out the process after tomorrow,already lost face by not just blowing Ratcliffe's bid out of the water
Yes exactly hence it’s not a state bid. Reinforces the point.
I imagine revenue will be a good jumping off point, or an agreed set of metrics determining EV ?
That's about the best news I've seen about this Ineos bid. Worst case scenario it's 3 years.
#RatcliffeOut is trending on Twitter now.
That was quick, he doesn't even have the club yet
There honestly wouldn't be so much hate towards him (include myself) IF he hadn't proposed a deal which allows them to stay
Where you get any confidence from,unless of course you think Ratcliffe and INEOS have British media in their pocket. That's why we keep getting reports about them being huge favourites.A club in the hand is worth two in the bush
No they won’t
Can see it turning ugly quickly. What a bad foot to start out on. He is going to have to make some pretty big announcements on improvements very quickly or he will lose the fans before he has even started.
It really is unreal. I totally despair of our fanbase at times.
There is nothing even remotely similar to having the Glazers in charge to having Jim in charge.
We know for a fact Jim has more than enough money to get us where we want to be. He is not buying us to make money, he is so rich as it is to be taking out a few hundred thousand from United from time to time would be pointless for him.
Compared to Jassim who we know nothing about Jim is in another league and the only sane choice.
Also if he wasn’t being so cagey over how he plans to manage the debt and was clearer in how he plans to invest in the club.
When you combine that with his running of Nice AND the fact he’s working a deal out that keeps the Glazers in place it’s not difficult to understand why people don’t trust him.
He needs to do it in opening statement
I am not necessarily saying this is out of the question, however, that would mean the media characterizing the future sale mechanisms as "put and call options" was incorrect.
That’s a bold statement. Why is he buying us then?
The running of Nice is an absolute crock of shit and you all know it. You're arguing in favour of someone who hasn't run a football club for a solitary second, why pretend that someone not having previous positively glowing experience of owning a football club bothers you in the slightest?
May Sir Jim will make sure they cannot get their hands on tickets or not on front hand shaking row.
Yeah the NICE thing is very worrying,also like you say his cagey stance on debt and investment
Yeah he's ran it like a crock of shit when you see what the NICE fans are saying about himThe running of Nice is an absolute crock of shit and you all know it. You're arguing in favour of someone who hasn't run a football club for a solitary second, why pretend that someone not having previous positively glowing experience of owning a football club bothers you in the slightest?
Oh this is my favourite bit. NICE fans must be listened to at all costs because INEOS haven't turned 60 years of irrelevance into battling with French football's big boy in four years, but please ignore anyone pointing out how Qatar runs literally everything. They're just pro-Glazer wokeists.
Hope the leeches sell up soon. The take it or leave it offer is in so all cards are on the table now. The cnuts will probably delay and let it negatively impact our transfers and contracts from the looks of it.
Possibly because you can only judge from track record and Jim’s isn’t great. Like you said SJ has no track record of running a club so it is impossible to judge.The running of Nice is an absolute crock of shit and you all know it. You're arguing in favour of someone who hasn't run a football club for a solitary second, why pretend that someone not having previous positively glowing experience of owning a football club bothers you in the slightest?
Yeah his track record is shocking
Is Ineos Sports fully owned by SJR? If there are other investors involved, which I assume, they would demand return on their investment. In that case it's either dividends or they plan to sell us in X years. Ineos Sports reports are not public on their website unfortunately so it is difficult to know. Common practice would be to sell in maybe 3-5 years on average for private equity.
Not sure they should leave offer on table,makes the deadline of Friday look a little soft
Absolutely, that backwards human rights abusing nation have a shocking track record that nobody should be overlooking.
Oh you meant the other guy whose 'shocking track record' is not turning a club whose last trophy was in 1997 into perennial Ligue 1 winners in a few months shy of four years.
I personally get a little nervous when I read the plans to phase out Glazers over 3 years. In the past, the Glazers could have an interest in United improving sportingly as it would bring better earnings to the club and its owners. But with a future perspective of only 3 years, the Glazers will not care at all about the sporting side, as they only have to focus on making money here and now.
Of course, Ineos will have the greatest power and think about the sporting future. But still, it's not good to have an owner who doesn't have to worry in the slightest about the future of the club.
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