I thought this was a poem. So did GPT
Mount money
Unfortunately the promise means feck all to the glazers they don’t care what they do with the debt.
Some posters have literally said they're sick of morals/morality or don't care about these issues in football at all. So don't assume your position is everyone's, or needlessly place yourself in the position of the people I'm criticising.
Once I believed in Big Days. Then they let me down. Now I spit in the face of Big Days.
But it has been working out for Dubai. And it was on the cusp of working out for Turkey until the EU rejected them.
I'm not telling you how to feel or act either. I'm just commenting that right now it's hard to take any of the hyperbole outrage seriously. You're all just talk.
This is a stupid argument.
True but for all the people that say 'debt is normal' that try to downplay retaining the debt as standard, this puts it in practical terms.
Tbh phones are more a convenience (a pretty big one tbf) rather than a necessity. People survived pre mobile phones.
So everyone that doesn't want Qatar is a patronising whinger. Very interesting.
Some people certainly feel that they do need their football club. It’s an escape for 5-6hrs a week from an oppressive capitalistic society. Time when you can just enjoy football. Some people watch movies, some read books and some watch their football team.
Most people can't do their jobs without phones in fairness
There is an ethical phone
People survived before modern medicine.
Then we can finally mount a bid for Mount.
It's still a stupid argument. Nobody chooses to "support" a brand of phone, or car (choosing to ignore the apple vs android bollox). When you support a football team you are aligning your own sense of identity with that club. So it feels far more personal if/when that club becomes owned by a state known for human rights abuses.
Yes, some can’t. Although that should then be a work phone, and they will still own their own phone as well
But you can choose to live in a certain way or not, picking and choosing and then choosing bits you don't like to argue is a bit silly
We’re probably getting way off topic but I’d say medicine and heat are more essentials. Phones are convenience / entertainment
Or... you could support the club & team but not support the owners. We have no say in who owns the club, we can't influence the glazer's decision.
You have no idea about the sort of lives lived by those who object to Qatari ownership.
I’d add if you need the owners beliefs to align with your own then you’ll never support an English club in the first place.
Well, no. But we can have an opinion about them. Which is something that, bizarrely, is being shouted down in this thread with the "you can't have an opinion if you own a car" nonsense.
To an extent that is true fair enough. But over the last 30-40 years there's more evidence of it not working than working. And I'll reserve judgement on reforms in Qatar as a result of the World Cup.
This is such a poor argument. It’s the opposite angle.
But with a competent owner that isn’t pillaging the clubs money, then buying merch would directly supporting the team/facilities not dividends.
You are probably not friends with them because they work in oil related companies. And you don’t define them due to their current work. They may had other work, education, studies in the past and may have others in the future. Some may also not have another choice and need the money, etc.
Source? The gulf states are vastly different place today than they were 30 years ago, and that is indeed due to increasing global influence there. We scoff and snigger at things like saudi women now being allowed to drive but I'm sure they think it's a step in the right direction.
Agreed, this thread has been horrible at times but there's no need for this kind of overreaction!
For many jobs you do literally need to use car or some other vehicle. As in it's an implicit or often explicit requirement for the role.
I'm sorry but I think you're a bit naive if you don't think this is anything other than a state backed bid, in countries like Qatar, Saudi, Abu Dhabi it is pretty much impossible to do this kind of business without state being involvedSir, as of yet nobody has provided evidence of a state bid, not one shred, nothing and you think stating there is no evidence of a state bid is fooling myself?Again you're jumping to conclusions about what I want and think.
As of yet, I haven't excluded the HBJ branch, with investors, not state, of the Al Thani house buying united as a Qatar power move within the Al Thani house.
Of course they do, don’t you know they love the club.
Of course it's down to Pep, but if Liverpool had the extra £500m or so net City have spent then they could've bought the same level of rotation for the attack City have, and one of those two 1 point deficits in the league could very likely have been overturned.
