kopviolator
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They're about to sell the club (likely) for 5bn after milking it dry. Seems like decent buisness from a certain percpective.2014 and not very good going off how they've ran United into the ground.
They're about to sell the club (likely) for 5bn after milking it dry. Seems like decent buisness from a certain percpective.2014 and not very good going off how they've ran United into the ground.
They were basically running things long before he died as well, almost from the very beginning of the nightmare. For all his many, many, many faults, old Malc was at least somewhat competent as a businessman if nothing else. His children, well the two ghools charged with running United are anything but.2014 and not very good going off how they've ran United into the ground.
Not from Utd supporters when they are in Florida. They will have security, but there has never been a close case where a fan has gotten near them and abused them like Woodward & Judge and also Woodwards home.Genuine question, I wonder if they fear for themselves when they go about their days, and if they have security with them most of the time.
It also suggests they give a solitary shit about what the fans think, rather than just getting as much money as possibleFeel like this gives them to much credit. Suggests they are cunning and manipulative which implies a degree of intelligence.
In spite of them, not because of them.They're about to sell the club (likely) for 5bn after milking it dry. Seems like decent buisness from a certain percpective.
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I have asked that before. I doubt they ever come to Manchester again if they stay.Genuine question, I wonder if they fear for themselves when they go about their days, and if they have security with them most of the time.
Wouldn't surprise me if they really thought they were the victims in all this. I mean, they've only been sucking the club dry for 18 years, how can we be so bad and hate them?!?!Tweet
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It's like looking up at the star constellations and then trying to divine the future from their movements.I asked before why you lot follow the stock price and the only answer I got was someone saying you were all idiots, so I'll give it another go.
Why are you following the stock price?
It would surprise me because it’s completely illegal to do that.Neither 92F nor Ineos are going to come in and pump hundreds of millions into the transfer fund this summer. Our spending is limited by FFP regardless of who's in charge.
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the buyers has already won but requested not to announce until September because they believe doing so will raise asking prices for players too much.
I want the Glazers out as much as the next guy. But I don't think it makes a functional difference how quickly it happens for this particular transfer window.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Ratcliffe and the Glazers decided this together.It would surprise me because it’s completely illegal to do that.
Why are you following share prices, again?It would surprise me because it’s completely illegal to do that.
Nothing will happen to them. Too much security and very few people are that stupid.I have asked that before. I doubt they ever come to Manchester again if they stay.
Why would they? There's no danger to them in Florida. This situation really shows how little power the masses actually have despite people's best efforts to make themselves believe they matter.Genuine question, I wonder if they fear for themselves when they go about their days, and if they have security with them most of the time.
Sometimes it feels like it. They had every chance to finalize this deal before the end of the season, but no, they'll drag it as long as possible. They'd probably hate it if we win the league next season just after they feck off. The deal will likely happen once it's mathematically impossible for the new owners to have any impact on our summer plans.Tweet
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I would take about anything now. Indykaila?We need a dodgy tweet.
Because I bought a bunch, why do you ask?Why are you following share prices, again?
The thing is the longer they wait, the more chance that one of the bidders pulls out and takes the Glazers leverage with them. For them it's a balancing act, at reaching the point of maximum value before waiting too long and losing one of the bidders. They don't care about the club or the fans, they care about extracting the greatest amount of money and nothing elseSometimes it feels like it. They had every chance to finalize this deal before the end of the season, but no, they'll drag it as long as possible. They'd probably hate it if we win the league next season just after they feck off. The deal will likely happen once it's mathematically impossible for the new owners to have any impact on our summer plans.
I fecking hate them with a passion, fecking parasites.
I think the massive profits they are sadly about to make suggest they're not all that bad at business.Jesus fecking christ how long has it been since that Reuters report? Fecking grim
Yeah, and the sooner they get the money they can start invest them elsewhere to make more money. There´s no benefit for them to have the cash locked up in this sinking ship.The thing is the longer they wait, the more chance that one of the bidders pulls out and takes the Glazers leverage with them. For them it's a balancing act, at reaching the point of maximum value before waiting too long and losing one of the bidders. They don't care about the club or the fans, they care about extracting the greatest amount of money and nothing else
That’s where we are now imo. I think they’ve lost any leverage they might have had as neither side seem to be moving on their bids. They just need to make a decision and get on with it.The thing is the longer they wait, the more chance that one of the bidders pulls out and takes the Glazers leverage with them. For them it's a balancing act, at reaching the point of maximum value before waiting too long and losing one of the bidders. They don't care about the club or the fans, they care about extracting the greatest amount of money and nothing else
It was probably their fathers plan form the beginning. I wouldn't give them any credit for it.They're about to sell the club (likely) for 5bn after milking it dry. Seems like decent buisness from a certain percpective.
Yep, while SAF was in charge the club did well in spite of them but as we seen once he retired his brilliance was just papering over the cracks.They were basically running things long before he died as well, almost from the very beginning of the nightmare. For all his many, many, many faults, old Malc was at least somewhat competent as a businessman if nothing else. His children, well the two ghools charged with running United are anything but.
Since his passing the children have basically sucked out every single penny that they could grasp.Yep, while SAF was in charge the club did well in spite of them but as we seen once he retired his brilliance was just papering over the cracks.
Malcolm was a self made Billionaire so I'd imagine he was a very good businessman. But his children are clowns.
Not having a go at you personally but....Neither 92F nor Ineos are going to come in and pump hundreds of millions into the transfer fund this summer. Our spending is limited by FFP regardless of who's in charge.
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the buyers has already won but requested not to announce until September because they believe doing so will raise asking prices for players too much.
I want the Glazers out as much as the next guy. But I don't think it makes a functional difference how quickly it happens for this particular transfer window.
When all the fans realise that the Glazers are only selling at £6bn, that’s when the euphoria will soon be cancelled out by sheer disbelief !It was probably their fathers plan form the beginning. I wouldn't give them any credit for it.
But due to ETH's determination to win everything the team until the European elimination we're playing every three or four days.I think the massive profits they are sadly about to make suggest they're not all that bad at business.
Except they will not get anywhere near £6bn. In USD probably, but not GB Pounds.When all the fans realise that the Glazers are only selling at £6bn, that’s when the euphoria will soon be cancelled out by sheer disbelief !
This. I feel that using the r-word to describe anyone from that family is still very mild to describe their level of mental deficiency.Feel like this gives them to much credit. Suggests they are cunning and manipulative which implies a degree of intelligence.
Just wait to the final figures are released they are getting at least $6bn or $1bn each, fans are going to be shocked when they realised what they actually wanted and what they are actually getting. That thread alone is going to blow peoples minds !Except they will not get anywhere near £6bn. In USD probably, but not GB Pounds.
It seems some people have little comprehension of just what £6BN amounts to....say it fast and it means little...but when you inform them that £6BN equates to a million pounds per week for more than a 115 years then it should open their eyes....the Glazer's greed knows no bounds.Except they will not get anywhere near £6bn. In USD probably, but not GB Pounds.
True but here the drag appears to be the merciless money extraction game. We have had deployed every strategy going.This. There's plenty of real things to complain about with the Glazers, but the length of the sale isn't one of them. It's a multi billion dollar deal, worse case it could literally take years. Last year, Microsoft bought ZeniMax for $7.5 billion. They announced it was happening at the beginning of March, and finalized nearly 7 months later. Chances are they were working on it prior to the announcement, and that didn't include multiple bidders.
I can't wait for this all to be done, but checking for updates every 5 minutes is just a path to despair.
Exactly, part of the problem is also the appeal of the two main bidders, they are not engaged in a purely business decision (they would have both pulled out) but they are emotionally attached (hopefully as fans) and won't easily back down. This has only encouraged the Glazers who can't believe their luck and will test the bidder's 'committment' to the limit.The thing is the longer they wait, the more chance that one of the bidders pulls out and takes the Glazers leverage with them. For them it's a balancing act, at reaching the point of maximum value before waiting too long and losing one of the bidders. They don't care about the club or the fans, they care about extracting the greatest amount of money and nothing else
I believe Malcolm would have got a grip of Woodward burning all his money. The children have no concept of lossYep, while SAF was in charge the club did well in spite of them but as we seen once he retired his brilliance was just papering over the cracks.
Malcolm was a self made Billionaire so I'd imagine he was a very good businessman. But his children are clowns.
A bit like a very popular TV show.Malcolm was a self made Billionaire so I'd imagine he was a very good businessman. But his children are clowns.