Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

[cyberman]

Orny has again made me horny

But it's weird Italian sources are saying the price is lower and close to being matched, whereas English sources are saying there's a big gap

Maybe it's United trying to show this Summer that they won't just pay anything. They've seemingly got the Mount and Onana prices both to drop a lot

I can’t see how English journos getting the price wrong doesn’t work against us?

 

[Chaky_Best]

According to Alfredo Peddula we have a bid around 53M€ with 7M€ bonus when Atalanta wants 60M€ fixed fee.

If our valuation is "only" 7-10 M€ we can safely say that he will be ours soon.

My fear was that we didn't have money to spend unless we sell Maguire and Fred for 50-60M, but it seems that we are able to spend another 50-60M on a 9.

As for Kane, I think it's too expensive so we don't have much choice.

But would you rather have a striker or keeping Martial again ?

 

[Borys]

I don't mind paying 70-80m for him, a young prospect and already quite good apparently. I am afraid if he can handle the pressure of being the main striker. It's different to play #9 at club like United. If the club thinks he is up to it then fair enough. I still think this move is unlikely to happen.

 

[lex talionis]

That assumes we have 120m available to buy him.

Point taken, but if we only have 110m left in the bank I’m pretty sure management can find another 10m to get it done.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

But would you rather have a striker or keeping Martial again ?

You didn't even have to say "striker" to be fair, could have gone with "blank" and i'd still take that over option B.

 

[alexthelion]

I don't mind paying 70-80m for him, a young prospect and already quite good apparently. I am afraid if he can handle the pressure of being the main striker. It's different to play #9 at club like United. If the club thinks he is up to it then fair enough. I still think this move is unlikely to happen.

On what grounds? Apparently we're only a few million apart in valuation.

 

[JJ12]

I thought we only had £100m to spend this summer? Must have plenty of outgoings lined up

 

[bosnian_red]

I don't mind paying 70-80m for him, a young prospect and already quite good apparently. I am afraid if he can handle the pressure of being the main striker. It's different to play #9 at club like United. If the club thinks he is up to it then fair enough. I still think this move is unlikely to happen.

Given how dire our striker situation is, I'd say it likely will happen. United has repeatedly shown we'll pay up for an attacker if we are dying for the position, and the realistic options are pretty much non existent other than Hojlund. Kolo Muani profile wise doesn't fit quite as much and would be more expensive, hojlund fits what Ten Hag wants but is very raw... I don't think we get to this stage very often if we aren't pretty confident of actually getting it over the line.

 

[Strelok]

My fear was that we didn't have money to spend unless we sell Maguire and Fred for 50-60M, but it seems that we are able to spend another 50-60M on a 9.

Yeah no worry. No club bid then say hey wait we'd need to sell a couple players first when the partner agree to sell. It'd be utterly stupid, disrespectful and unprofessional toward the partner.

I thought we only had £100m to spend this summer?

The Athletic said so but not a big surprise if they got that wrong imo.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I can’t see how English journos getting the price wrong doesn’t work against us?

Maybe in reality Atlanta only want £60m fixed but by United leaking that Atlanta want close to £90m, when they then eventually agree the deal around £60m it’ll seem they’ve negotiated it down considerably

United have a reputation of paying over the odds and getting ripped off. Wouldn’t be a bad move to start showing that we won’t

 

[MDFC Manager]

The Athletic said so but not a big surprise if they got that wrong imo.

Second year in a row too

 

[JJ12]

Yeah no worry. No club bid then say hey wait we'd need to sell a couple players first when the partner agree to sell. It'd be utterly stupid, disrespectful and unprofessional toward the partner.


The Athletic said so but not a big surprise if they got that wrong imo.

I’d be surprised if The Athletic got it wrong to be honest. If it was Ornstein or Whitwell anyway.

 

[bosnian_red]

I thought we only had £100m to spend this summer? Must have plenty of outgoings lined up

100m net probably. Enough sales that will happen that it's fine. 150m spend on Onana, mount and Hojlund, and then probably something like this (or 75% of this list) for sales:

• Henderson - 20m
• Elanga - 10-15m
• Fred - 10-15m
• Maguire - 20m
• Telles - 5-10m
• Bailly - 5m
• Williams - 5m
• Van de Beek - 15m

I'd bet Van de Beek just gets loaned and Maguire stays, and then maybe just loan Williams or get less than that, but yeah. That's still over 50m.

 

[cyberman]

I’d be surprised if The Athletic got it wrong to be honest. If it was Ornstein or Whitwell anyway.

They’ve got out ffp wrong all summer.
Plus ffp isn’t a factor until the window closes, we don’t need to sell to buy as Ornstein is strangely trying to say.
They told us we had to sell to buy after Mount

 

[cyberman]

Maybe in reality Atlanta only want £60m fixed but by United leaking that Atlanta want close to £90m, when they then eventually agree the deal around £60m it’ll seem they’ve negotiated it down considerably

United have a reputation of paying over the odds and getting ripped off. Wouldn’t be a bad move to start showing that we won’t

That doesn’t help us with negotiations at all though
I just don’t think that’s worth it. We’d be laughed at if this were the case

 

[TheNewEra]

According to Alfredo Peddula we have a bid around 53M€ with 7M€ bonus when Atalanta wants 60M€ fixed fee.

If our valuation is "only" 7-10 M€ we can safely say that he will be ours soon.

My fear was that we didn't have money to spend unless we sell Maguire and Fred for 50-60M, but it seems that we are able to spend another 50-60M on a 9.

As for Kane, I think it's too expensive so we don't have much choice.

But would you rather have a striker or keeping Martial again ?

Telles off to Al Nassr, Dean Henderon to Forest

 

[Licha-Vidic]

I don't mind paying 70-80m for him, a young prospect and already quite good apparently. I am afraid if he can handle the pressure of being the main striker. It's different to play #9 at club like United.

The bolded part..
What does it usually mean, I see alot of people saying this.
I think the problem is we usually sign very poor players then blame 'playing for a club like United"
We haven't played in a champions league semifinal since 2011 season.
We have played in 1/4 of champions league twice since Ferguson retired. 10 year period.
We haven't been involved in any title challenge or run-in since 2013

But somehow playing for United is such a hard task. Noo. We sign very poor players along the way.
When you sign better players, playing for United with the current demands should be very easy.

The guy is above average in alot of things, he will do well here. He can be in the next group of main players in OT for foreseeable future.

 

[Blood Mage]

If PSG and Juve want him then that makes getting a good deal difficult.

 

[Cypriot]

If PSG and Juve want him then that makes getting a good deal difficult.

Don't understand how Juve can get him if they're trying to offload Vlahovic due to financial reasons.

 

[VP89]

If PSG and Juve want him then that makes getting a good deal difficult.

If he's quite keen to come for us it would be fine. I don't think PSG have appetite to throw too much money for him, it's already a big fee.

 

[USREDEVIL]

More like the next Alan Smith.

Harsh on Smitty

 

[Pintu]

Don't understand how Juve can get him if they're trying to offload Vlahovic due to financial reasons.

Vlahovic earns around 13 M/year… They can quadruple Rasmus’ wage and that would still be just a portion of Vlahovic’s….

 

[Idxomer]

Interesting that the Ornstein article mentions both the €100m and €70m valuations.

 

[L1nk]

Interesting that the Ornstein article mentions both the €100m and €70m valuations.

Probably doesn't want to piss off any of his British press mates, but clearly agrees with Fabrizio's 60/70 which is why he tagged him in the tweet

 

[Sarni]

I don’t think we spend £52m on him to make him a backup. He will probably get 2-3 months to settle and will then become a permanent fixture in our first team.

 

[Dannn411]

I don’t think we spend £52m on him to make him a backup. He will probably get 2-3 months to settle and will then become a permanent fixture in our first team.

He is absolutely starting. Especially if we don't bring in any other CF.

 

[pascell]

He is absolutely starting. Especially if we don't bring in any other CF.

Rashford will start as CF and Garnacho LW, that's if we don't sell Martial.

 

[tenpoless]

Cant see him being on huge wages, so personal terms are obviously a non issue. Its the fee, Atlanta are having a laugh.

 

[Borys]

The bolded part..
What does it usually mean, I see alot of people saying this.
I think the problem is we usually sign very poor players then blame 'playing for a club like United"
We haven't played in a champions league semifinal since 2011 season.
We have played in 1/4 of champions league twice since Ferguson retired. 10 year period.
We haven't been involved in any title challenge or run-in since 2013

But somehow playing for United is such a hard task. Noo. We sign very poor players along the way.
When you sign better players, playing for United with the current demands should be very easy.

The guy is above average in alot of things, he will do well here. He can be in the next group of main players in OT for foreseeable future.

My worry is because there will be a huge pressure on this guy as majority of the fans expected us to sign either Kane or Osimhen this summer.

When was the last time 20 year old led the line at United by the way?

 

[Devil You Know]

Agreeing a contract makes Atlanta more likely to sell. Because they now know that Hojlund wants to leave and has taken concrete steps to make it happen.

If the selling club fail to strike a deal from point, they risk having an unhappy player on their hands.

Hojlund has effectively handed in a transfer request without sacrificing any bonuses. It's a clever move from him.

 

[Devil You Know]

My worry is because there will be a huge pressure on this guy as majority of the fans expected us to sign either Kane or Osimhen this summer.

When was the last time 20 year old led the line at United by the way?

Welbeck played 26 league games as a 20/21 year old.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Hopefully we have no intention of actually going for Muani. He isn't really a striker.

We need a proper number 9 and RTH seemingly wants Hojlund. Valuation difference appears small so don't see any reason it shouldn't get done

 

[Todd]

Atalanta scored the third-most goals in Serie A last season, 66 goals, and Hojlund only scored 9 of them, in 32 appearances.

I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like we're going to pay 60 million or more for a kid who is going to score 5-10 goals per season for us.

We're going to look like idiots for having not gone all-out for Kane, I can feel it.

 

[zaafi]

Atalanta scored the third-most goals in Serie A last season, 66 goals, and Hojlund only scored 9 of them, in 32 appearances.

I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like we're going to pay 60 million or more for a kid who is going to score 5-10 goals per season for us.

We're going to look like idiots for having not gone all-out for Kane, I can feel it.

You mention his appearances, but leave out how many minutes he played to make your worry seem more legit. Not really how it works. He's got almost one goal every other game if you look at many minutes he's played, and you should also take into account his goals for Sturm Graz and Denmark.

 

[Quagmire Maguire]

Don't see it with this guy at all. Looked average every time I've seen him play. Think he'll struggle to get 5 goals in the league.

Posts like this always make me smile, I saw these posts with Kane

Atalanta scored the third-most goals in Serie A last season, 66 goals, and Hojlund only scored 9 of them, in 32 appearances.

I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like we're going to pay 60 million or more for a kid who is going to score 5-10 goals per season for us.

We're going to look like idiots for having not gone all-out for Kane, I can feel it.

Yet if we didn't sign him and he went on to become the next Haaland you would be moaning that we should have signed him before. You really can't win with the majority of our fans that use this forum. Moan moan moan whinge whinge whinge.

 

[VP89]

You mention his appearances, but leave out how many minutes he played to make your worry seem more legit. Not really how it works. He's got almost one goal every other game if you look at many minutes he's played, and you should also take into account his goals for Sturm Graz and Denmark.

Still means nothing. Its probably not a better ratio than Martial.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Because you were presenting these players are some awesome goal scorers when that's not the case.

I would take Hojlund ahead of Vlahovic and J David for sure. Muani and Hojlund is close call, would be happy with either.

For me bit of unknown with potential is better than proven not good enough players.

Was I really? Or was I quoting an article that listed some strikers who were doing the business, those 3 making their list and Hojland nowhere to be found. If you prefer Hojland, my question is why. If you think he’s going to kick on, again, why?

I personally am not all that invested in this, but wanted to know why you think your assessment is better than the article writers’ assessment. My post was because people say if not Hojland then who, and after a brief Google search that article and those names appeared. I haven’t watched any of those players outside of YouTube highlights, but it seems odd to dismiss their stats out of hand.

 

[AnotherLondonManc]

Posts like this always make me smile, I saw these posts with Kane
Yet if we didn't sign him and he went on to become the next Haaland you would be moaning that we should have signed him before. You really can't win with the majority of our fans that use this forum. Moan moan moan whinge whinge whinge.

Come on buddy, people are allowed to give their opinion. This isn't the Rasmus Højlund circle jerk thread. Not everyone has to support this transfer, nor agree with you.

The facts are this: He is a young, raw striker with plenty of potential. He does not have a particularly good goal scoring record in a worse league, although his underlying stats are positive.

Anyone suggesting that we are overpaying for him is 100% right. He's not got a lot of professional football under his belt and what he has does not suggest generational talent yet. Will he be worth it in 2-3 years time? Maybe. Will he never realise his potential and be a 'flop'? Possibly

The irony isn't lost on me that you sign off complaining about everyone moaning, in a post moaning about the forum

 

[Todd]

Posts like this always make me smile, I saw these posts with Kane
Yet if we didn't sign him and he went on to become the next Haaland you would be moaning that we should have signed him before. You really can't win with the majority of our fans that use this forum. Moan moan moan whinge whinge whinge.

Not a fair comparison at all. When City signed Haaland, everyone already knew that he was a sure thing. He'd just scored 29 goals in 30 matches for Dortmund the season before, and a ridiculous 41 goals in 41 matches the season before that. It was a situation where everyone knew exactly what City (or any club lucky enough) was going to get for their money.

Right now, Hojlund is an unknown commodity. You don't really know yet what kind of output your money is going to buy you. If you're willing to take a chance on a young player, I think you do it at 20 or 30 million, not 60 or 70 million, because more often than not they don't turn into the Harry Kanes or Victor Osimhens of the world.

 

[Telsim]

He will be bought and he will 100% be starting ahead of Martial and Rashford, after a period of settling in. Will be nice to see us with a proper 9 up top. I expect big things from the kid. And U believe he will shred.