Goes in effect today I believe.
Nicholas Jackson
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
To maximize their spending and still stay within ffp rules. The longer the contract, the lower the yearly cost on the books because the transfer fee can be spread out over more years.
A new rule went into effect today addressing this loophole. Contracts now have to be written off over a period of five years max.
Two words for ya mate: Saudi Arabia.
Chelsea have been handed a massive reprieve on their 8 year contract stupidity by having a whole nation offering even more lucrative terms for their potential cast offs. If Mudders continues to be nothing more than a 100m sprinter wearing studs, then the Saudi's will happily swoop in and take the problem off Chelsea's hands.
It's a shame really. Toddy deserved to be punished for coming into English footy and thinking he's a genius, but through sheer dumb corrupt sportswashing luck, he's going to get away with his idiocy.
Or maybe you or Arsenal will assume it's our fault more than this and snap him up
This kid looks good, might become an elite striker under Pochettino. Don't believe chelsea will need another striker. A goal and 2 assist today
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Amortization isn’t the only reason to sign players to extended contracts. They have to be figuring out a way to make it attractive to agents and players (specific clauses on pay rises, friendly tenure bonus structures, contractual obligations to rework the contract after a period of time.. etc) I would imagine.
For a multi club system it is a no brainer though. Even if the asset fails and you have trouble moving them, you can mitigate the negative effect and find ways to manipulate where the yearly losses are recorded.
The sheer … inaccuracy … I see in describing Chelsea’s spending, or why they are moving on players was enough to make me just take a long break.
But Jackson is enough to get me back. The awareness … and those little touches to set up goals; so good. Positioning and movement; really good. I don’t want to get too excited too early, but he needs playing time. With Broja coming back and Nkunku being able to play centrally … I just don’t get talk of further striker purchases. I’ve been very impressed.
For a multi club system it is a no brainer though. Even if the asset fails and you have trouble moving them, you can mitigate the negative effect and find ways to manipulate where the yearly losses are recorded.
The sheer … inaccuracy … I see in describing Chelsea’s spending, or why they are moving on players was enough to make me just take a long break.
But Jackson is enough to get me back. The awareness … and those little touches to set up goals; so good. Positioning and movement; really good. I don’t want to get too excited too early, but he needs playing time. With Broja coming back and Nkunku being able to play centrally … I just don’t get talk of further striker purchases. I’ve been very impressed.
His link up play is so much better than advertised. I agree, we might not need a striker. Jackson is him. I’ve been so, so impressed with him so far.
The usual preseason caveats apply, of course.
The usual preseason caveats apply, of course.
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Pochettino wanted to see him and nkunku in same 11.
. Albeit preseason things look improved 1000 times better than last preseason.Stand out players for me gusto, casedai, angelo,Jackson.If we add caicedo and kudus and possibly one goal keeper we will be set for season opener.
For the fee Chelsea paid this can be the bargain of the season. He's look really good for them great technique and hold up game.
He does look brilliant so far. His link up play was completely unexpected as I hadn’t seen a lot of him admittedly.
With all those players + the Jackson and Nkunku partnership surely a CL place is the minimum Chelsea will be expecting or hoping for?Pochettino wanted to see him and nkunku in same 11.
Stand out players for me gusto, casedai, angelo,Jackson.If we add caicedo and kudus and possibly one goal keeper we will be set for season opener.
I want to see tuchel s best season total be achieved. If that's not enough to win cl place back then so be it. If we created the core group that perform week in week out then I will be happy.
As for Jackson he is not good enough aerially. Looking at his stats his aerial ability was very low. That will drag him into not a complete striker category. But plus point is him and nkunku can play in same team and we can easily migrate into two striker formation with actual two strikers.
Hopefully we won't be dumb enough to put 80 mn bid to sign some useless lumps.
I'm not sure if you're just trolling now, but Jackson an elite striker under Poch. Mudryk similar to Mbappe in Poch.
I know there was always this love in with Poch and yourself, but this is going to far
He has made 3 threads in 2023, and all 3 are Chelsea player threads made following Pochettino’s appointment. I appreciate his commitment to the bit
Jackson and Nkunku for about 80m was decent business (of course both have to prove it now). For an area we are so desperate in, I wonder if we were asleep at the wheel on some targets. This isnt an excuse to bash united, just frustrating seeing us play pre season with wingers up top and martial injured.
New manager and a ton of new players (again) mean it'll be tough. If we get top 4 it will be incredible unless Arsenal, Man United or Liverpool totally shit the bed.
If top 5 = Champions League is confirmed then obviously a lot more likely.
Jackson's touch, weight of pass, and general intelligence with link up play is something we haven't had since Anelka or maybe Eto'o (even though he was basically part-time). Being brought up through the Spanish youth system has probably really helped him.
We don’t have a recognised striker yet who can actually score goals, Martial is good for 5 games a season at the moment.
I wouldn’t say so, personally. We’re coming off the back of a 12th place finish, and other clubs have strengthened, whilst we’ve sold off half of our squad. I expect it’ll take some time for Poch to get his ideas across, and integrate the new signings. I’m not going to place too much stock in the pre-season performances, we’ve not exactly played quality opposition thus far.
I’d be happy with top 6-8 to be honest, provided we see a massive improvement in our attacking play. We averaged a goal per game last season. We looked absolutely rotten going forward.
re. Jackson, it’s very early days but he’s looked positive so far. I think we look much more comfortable with him at 9 and Nkunku behind. Not sure Nkunku will work up top on his own in the PL, but playing behind & linking up with Jackson looks like it could result in a very productive partnership. I don’t think we’ve had a striker with Jackson’s hold-up play since Giroud.
Another year out in the wild will be very bad for you, I can see many of those new signings on long contracts getting restless, Enzo in particular.
I suppose that’s the benefit of having them tied up to those contracts - it’ll take a hefty fee if they want to force move away.
I agree that it’s far from ideal, but I think we need to be realistic about where we are right now. I know it’s become a bit of a meme, but we really are the definition of a club ‘in transition’. Even now, over a year into the new ownership, we don’t seem to have a settled backroom structure. Vivell has been there for five minutes and is on his way out already. The chap Bohley appointed to look after the commercials was there for a cup of coffee being given the boot.
I think Poch is the most important signing/appointment that the new owners have made, and I’m hopeful that they give him time to get it right. I think by his second season we absolutely need to be in the top 4 conversation, but I’m expecting there to be teething problems initially.
Looks impressive
Looks really impressive with his link up play. Between him and Nkunku, Chelsea look sorted up front and it looks like a massive upgrade over Auba/Pulisic/Havertz/Felix etc. Well done Chelsea in picking him out on a cheap.
And with Colwill the next Ferdinand…surely anything other than winning the league would be acceptable!
Jackson . Already a legend. Scoring 1 vs 1 as chelsea striker that's enough for me.
. Already a legend. Scoring 1 vs 1 as chelsea striker that's enough for me.Hadn't heard of him before. Signing tbh. But looks very decent and at a super low price. Hate to see it.
Difficult to judge too much on preseason but looks like he could be a great signing for Chelsea. Cheap too when you consider how few strikers there are available.
Jackson have tricks like winger but finish like striker. Watching him reminds me anelka a bit.
And footballing experts on here will tell you, there's a lack of striker talent on the market. Yes for our scouts, managers and DOF there always seems to be a dearth of talent. Chelsea got a top talent it seems.
That latter vid gives me Diego Costa vibes. Bullying defenders at the corner flag and just pushing his way into the box like a freight train.
There quite obviously is. One player doesn't change that.
Besides, that was one friendly match. Let's see how he does in Premier League. I've seen Armando Broja with far more convincing performances than this.
Yeah, out of all the feel good stories of preseason so far, he's by far my favourite one.
You're really going to put this out there after a couple/handful of preseason friendly games?
Could well have signed a gem, but it doesn't change the fact that there really is a lack of quality CF options available - let alone at a decent price.
No it's not obvious, and Broja was a top striker talent who got injured. Yes there are striker talents out there, we just seem to always be second best in securing them or we fail to develop them properly when we get them actually.
If any time in football history there was a bigger pool of young talented footballers than at this moment, please point out. With the general level of scouting, and investing in youth football I doubt there was a better time than right now. However midtable or top 6-8 clubs have gotten much richer than in previous times so they don't sell for cheap, and the stakes have upped. That does not change the fact that clubs continue to find good deals, Jackson seems to be one of those.
There are talents in nearly every single club. Very few of them reach the top level, which is why we should try to get the ones that realistically can reach that level. Nicolas Jackson wasn't a hidden gem by any means, and only time will tell if he'll be good enough or just another one who doesn't cut it. I have to admit I wanted him myself along with Højlund.
We shouldn't just buy any striker talent for the sake of it and pray he will be good. Much more ideal to get one with a lot of the strengths you need to be a successful striker.
In your first post, you never mentioned "young striker talent" - just striker talent, which is what i was referring to. There is a lack of quality CF options on the market. And further to your point, we are actually heavily linked with one - Hojlund (among others: Ramos, Kolo Muani, Kane, Osimhen). Hojlund could turn out to be a great deal for us, or he could turn out not to be....no one knows. So what is it that you're complaining about?
They got him for cheap too
I'm amused by all the people in this thread crying because we didn't sign this guy, based on a few pre-season games. I suspect they're the same ones already writing Mount off because he hasn't scored yet, or who think Højlund will flop if we sign him.
Such a fickle bunch.
Such a fickle bunch.
Just another Danny Welbeck.