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Varane’s capable as well. Not the best but will be comfortable enough in receiving a short pass, the ones you need to worry about are Dalot and AWB.
He passes to midfielders under pressure more than defenders under pressure tbf.
Agree, but i dont think he has the mobility to want to be put into any kind of tight spots.
He does. But then with the center mid facing his own goal, the next ball of often back to a defender. They all have to be ready and open for a pass.
I see your point.
It will be better but hopefully much better. I have my doubts about some of our players especially Dalot and AWB.
Thank you. And I apologize for my lazyness but do you know how that rate compares to other keepers? Or, more importantly, how does it compare to DDG?
Jumping in because I'd previously looked at this and DDG saved 8/50 for us (16%), or 14/74 as a career total (19%). Onana's save percentage is just over 21% if you're also too lazy to do that maths
Should add that none of these count penalty shootouts.Excellent. Thank you.Jumping in because I'd previously looked at this and DDG saved 8/50 for us (16%), or 14/74 as a career total (19%). Onana's save percentage is just over 21% if you're also too lazy to do that maths
Some random comparison records include Ramsdale with 27% saving record, Kasper Schmeichel with 25%, Alisson with 42%!
Onana could be a slight improvement on DDG in that department but some of that may depend on our goalkeeping coaches because De Gea's record before joining us was pretty strong, 5/18 (28%).
We really really did need a top drawer ball playing sweeper keeper, and if you haven’t noticed that I swear you’ve been watching a different game altogether.
His basics are better than De Gea's.
25-27% is mightily impressive... 42% is off the fecking charts. Wow...Jumping in because I'd previously looked at this and DDG saved 8/50 for us (16%), or 14/74 as a career total (19%). Onana's save percentage is just over 21% if you're also too lazy to do that maths
Some random comparison records include Ramsdale with 27% saving record, Kasper Schmeichel with 25%, Alisson with 42%!
Onana could be a slight improvement on DDG in that department but some of that may depend on our goalkeeping coaches because De Gea's record before joining us was pretty strong, 5/18 (28%).
We have seen a shift in the ‘basics’ of goal keeping over the past decade. We absolutely should be seeing our goalkeeper be a proactive part of our side with his feet.
We don’t need a keeper who does fictional stuff you made up in your head?
Onana is known to also do back flips when faced with a one on one situation, to try and put the striker off.
I have eyes. Two of them, in fact.
We didn’t need a sweeper keeper as much as we needed a keeper who keeps bad mistakes to a minimum, zero if possible. De Gea’s problem wasn’t that he failed to a gnat’s eyebrow with a 60 yard ball. His problem was that allowed shots to go through his gloves that any keeper at this level to make. Mistakes will always happen, but shots like the Benrahma shot and others went in for match winners too often.
No, it wasn't just shot stopping errors. That's far too simplistic. De Gea gave us absolutely no platform from which to play. He did nothing to help us control games. That on top of his lack of authority within his own 6 yard box.
But it is fun…. Seriously, over the past few years Onana has gotten more reliable than in his younger years.
No, De Gea’s biggest problem by far was that when we played the best sides, Liverpool, City etc, that have a brilliant sweeper keeper, we were basically playing with 10 vs 11.
Let's see how we control and build up play with Onana this season. Let's not pretend we had the personnel to control games. Casemiro, Mount and Bruno this season is hardly a controlling midfield trio too.
Ederson and Allison, especially the later is a brilliant all round GK, not just sweeper keeper. If Onana can get to Ederson level we are set, if not we will have the new Barthez for 50m+.
That’s what I think. It seems that for a lot of people there are only two options: a cowardly keeper like DDG who is pinned to his line and can’t pass to save his life, or a total lunatic who tries to dribble the ball to the halfway line. It’s possible to have a keeper who is good at distribution but who doesn’t take unnecessary risks. At the moment we really aren’t a team that can afford to give away stupid goals.
To be fair, playing from the back is as much on the keeper as it is on the players in front of him.
That is a great feat, well done!
I did my first ever back flip today. Life goal achieved. Completely irrelevant but had to share.
I thought you're ancient!?
I did my first ever back flip today. Life goal achieved. Completely irrelevant but had to share.
I am! But I’ve always wanted to do a backflip and reckoned if I put it off any longer I’d break a hip the first time I tried. So job done. Delighted.
Well if you used them you wouldn’t be trying to claim that the only problem De Gea was causing the team is occasionally making errors with stopping shots. I mean, come on…
Whether that happened or not is irrelevant to the need to get rid of him. Which was because of the bad passes that either made it very difficult for his team mate to control, or missed them entirely. And we saw these passes a hell of a lot with De Gea. Onana has barely played and the reduction in the number of poor passes from our keeper couldn’t be more obvious.
It was more than “occasional”. Even Scholes committed occasional errors. The frequency of De Gea’s errors on saveable shots had become too great for ETH to bear. We all know about the Benrahma shot, but there were others that one had to ask if he could make a seemingly impossible save one minute but let a schoolboy save go through his gloves the next minute, could he actually be relied on over the next season or two as United push on for PL and CL trophies as he turns 33 and 34, when his reflexes are expected to naturally decline?
