Maguire was quite good the first couple of years.
Erik ten Hag vs Sancho
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This is a relief, actually. I was worried we were turning back into Player Power FC -- in which case I could see Ten Hag leaving and taking over at Bayern after Tuchel is sacked.
man that's a nice front of a building.
Look on the bright side. Your club is definitely finishing 1st in the group stages of UCL. At a mess we're in right now, we could really get embarrassed in Munich next Wednesday when we play against you. After 3-0, pull the brakes, don't be Liverpool and City and beat a dead horse.
I also like Bayern and hope you win the UCL now that you have a competent striker.
What's crazy is the delusion among some who think we're on the right track after the 50th try in 10 years.
It feels like an abusive relationship where some of our deluded fans keep thinking it'll be different next time.
I don't think throwing him to Turkey might be the best option for him to flourish back a little and hopefully gain some value. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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Ok banished from training is a much different approach than chill sabbatical in the Netherlands
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Those training photos are PR.
But I would love him to become a regular and high quality starter.
Thanks. I think we have good chance to do it. But it would be more fun to compete with actual football clubs like yours for the title, not just the group. Much more fun than playing against your boring neighbour.
So is this the second time he’s been banished from training after last year? They kept it vague last year about why he was sent away.
You can have all the skill in the world, but it’s nothing if your character is awful.
You can have all the skill in the world, but it’s nothing if your character is awful.
The player culture at the club has been poor since Woodward came in with his pseudo-galactico idea. Glad he's gone. And also glad ETH is cleansing the club of underperforming expensive players who think they're better than they are. I hope Sancho and Maguire as well are gone by January.
That's 50 million just to pay off his insane 350k pw contract for the next 3 years. Add that to his actual market valuation of around 40m. That's a 90m bullet to bite!!
I'm officially zipped up now...
Well yeah obviously but at the very least it shows he is putting the hard yards in.
I think he’ll surprise a few in the next couple of weeks.
Italy subsidizes salary, that could be an option
Couldn't agree more. The underperforming ones are now just signed on short-term loan deals. Babysteps.
If he's publicly undermined the manager with false information then he should go.
Another 5 month holiday while he just does some running in an empty stadium in Holland somewhere while he waits for Ten Hag to get sacked and he can come back.
This is his idea of ‘fighting for the badge’. The guy is not only full of shit, he’s a massive prick as well.
If only Amad and Mainoo had not got injured I think we would have seen Sancho gone in the window, the guy needs a reality check, I cannot remember more than a handful of good moments he has had un 1000s of minutes played for us, do your talking on the pitch
You saw this first hand?
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. IMO these things had to happen because these were the major clouds that have been hanging over our head as a team since Ten Haag got here. Our right wing position has been a massive cesspool of waste. Antony hasn't shown anything outside of work rate, Greenwood's case was a major cloud and Sancho's inability perform to a premier league standard and his absence have been major flags other teams haven't had to deal with. Now that they are out of the way, we can actually focus on what we have (Martial is still here, but we can only do so much)
Unless we can terminate his contract for some gross misconduct, there is no way he can be offloaded. The club doesn't have the money to pay him off. We are broke.
Our only hope is that he wants to revive his career somewhere else and some club is willing to buy him for a decent amount and pay him something not much lower than what he was being given here.
All the above seems unlikely. He is unsellable. We are stuck with him.
Can confirm. Am Sancho.
The hope is that Sancho sees this as a chip on his shoulder and comes back roaring with at least some passion but after 3 years of what we've seen, will this actually happen?
He'll probably 'train hard', give a shrug of his shoulders and just perform as he always has, which is on the periphery. So frustrating.
ETH has his fair shame of blame for our tactical set up/ball progression and that obviously hasn't helped the team let alone an individual player but come on Sancho, show something. Even if you're gonna throw your toys out of the pram at least make a big deal out of it rather than a passive aggressive tweet ffs.
He'll probably 'train hard', give a shrug of his shoulders and just perform as he always has, which is on the periphery. So frustrating.
ETH has his fair shame of blame for our tactical set up/ball progression and that obviously hasn't helped the team let alone an individual player but come on Sancho, show something. Even if you're gonna throw your toys out of the pram at least make a big deal out of it rather than a passive aggressive tweet ffs.
Also great to see the club backing him.
I’m no Ole apologist, but I don’t think it’s at all fair to ascribe the lax culture that prospered in his era wholly to him; it was clearly enabled by those above him.
Ah come on mate, you’re told when you’re a child that being late is a bad thing. I bet he wasn’t always late for school or practice when he was a kid because there was consequences. Now he’s obviously not looking after himself and he’s taking the piss.
A normal conversation goes like this: “can you please stop being late, everyone else arrived on time and we couldn’t start until you got here” - “yeah sorry, I’ll make sure I’m on time next time”.
You don’t go public and cry scapegoat against your boss because he asked you to stop being an extremely well paid prick.
Are you suggesting we get one of the coaches to wake him up before meetings so he comes on time? Enabling his behaviour and ensuring he never actually fixes his issues or sleeping patterns. Personal growth is hard but it’s a necessary part of being an adult, you don’t pander to people who blame the entire world for their behavioural problems.
Well buck your ideas up
Get out of bed you lazy cnut!Yes, he has been isolated to the academy building since Tuesday
The way we waited for him, tried to understand and help him makes me side with Ten Hag.
Reminds me a bit of Dembele at Barca. A big talent who doesnt put his mind in it before he matures. Hopefully he still can.
Reminds me a bit of Dembele at Barca. A big talent who doesnt put his mind in it before he matures. Hopefully he still can.
So why hasn’t he apologised and why hasn’t he come out to train?
Yeah, did you miss the bit where I said he should be punished?
Issuing statements etc what a load of nonsense. Just let the manager handle it instead of having it play out in the media and creating the drama we're now seeing. The club like virtually everything else recently have handled this poorly, bunch of clowns from the top down.
We're now in a situation where we have £200m+ of right wing talent either on loan (fair enough), suspended (or as good as) and training alone and unavailable for selection because this club couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. Absolute shit show.
Imagine a room filled with Sancho, Pogba, Sanchez, Lukaku, Lingard, Herrera and Di Maria. They'll be like blood brothers talking about how much has United wronged them.
If he can't help himself, who can? He's brought this on, only has himself to blame.
So, in last 15 days we lost 3 right wingers who cost around 250 mil. I don't know to laugh or cry.
Cool. So he is a massive petulant child as suspected. He is finished here for sure.
He's done. Knowing that he also has psychological issues this could very well be the end of his football career at the highest level.