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Beckham and the Qataris are used to getting what they want. If they increase their offer, we'll probably be still here next October wondering when it'll be sold.
Convinced Jassim won't bother upping the bid as reckon he is certain they aren’t gonna sell to him
 

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Definitely looking like Becks is the PR guy for Qatar bid but Ratcliffe looks in the box seat. Always feared Bloomberg talking up him buying the club and now it's happened
Wouldn’t read to much into it. I still have a feeling INEOS are being used to get a bigger bid from Qatar. Besides, Sir Jim buying 25% does not fix the core problem of much needed investment. If a nearly 12 month strategic review to seek alternative investment into the club, ends up with the result of the Glazer’s just lining their pockets - there will be hell to pay!
 

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Definitely looking like Becks is the PR guy for Qatar bid but Ratcliffe looks in the box seat. Always feared Bloomberg talking up him buying the club and now it's happened
After what theyve paid him, they probably want a little more value for money than smiling and saying nothing.
 

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Think you gotta embrace the "take what you can get" mentality. The Glazers own the club and very clearly don't want to sell unless it's for an absurd amount. That's not happening. If we get minority investment from Sir James Arthur Ratcliffe FIChemE where he still has the end goal of an eventual takeover, then it's not too bad. He'll be able to pump some money in, and slowly buy up more of the club over time. It's still an improvement so it's still a win, if it happens.
Is it an improvement? He still will have 0 power and there’s 0 guarantee of that money being directly pumped into improving the club. I don’t think it’s a win at all, it’s a slimes rat ( no pun intended) wanting to weasel his way to get a piece of the club no matter what he has to do.
 

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Wouldn’t read to much into it. I still have a feeling INEOS are being used to get a bigger bid from Qatar. Besides, Sir Jim buying 25% does not fix the core problem of much needed investment. If a nearly 12 month strategic review to seek alternative investment into the club, ends up with the result of the Glazer’s just lining their pockets - there will be hell to pay!
There wouldn’t actually be hell to pay though, there would be more of the same protests and club will carry on as normal. Same as lack of investment, club would just continue as it has done until they decide to sell at a future date.
 

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Yeah I think INEOS are going to win this now. Sheik Jassim has seemingly stayed true to his take it or leave it offer, he would have been aware that INEOS were restructuring the deal, so I can’t imagine him increasing his bid by another billion now.
He would have just done that these past couple of months to truly blow INEOS out of the water.
 

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The reactions to this on here :lol:

This thread is by far the biggest echo chamber I've ever seen.

Anyways, seems like the nightmare of state-ownership could really be avoided...who whould've thought?
 

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Convinced Jassim won't bother upping the bid as reckon he is certain they aren’t gonna sell to him
Well then at least we know what direction we're going in. ..Nevertheless, Jassim knows he has to increase and probably knows how much by as Ratcliffe's latest offer values the club higher than Jassim's.

What I want to know is, if there is a board meeting in the next few days, then surely he will have to indicate he is willing to go higher before then?


........Cue Mike Keegan....
 

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I still think it’s going to be Qatar and expect them to up their bid. Whether that will lead to another period of the Glazers sitting on it for months who knows but I don’t think the Qataris will leave it where it is.
 

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Yeah I think INEOS are going to win this now. Sheik Jassim has seemingly stayed true to his take it or leave it offer, he would have been aware that INEOS were restructuring the deal, so I can’t imagine him increasing his bid by another billion now.
He would have just done that these past couple of months to truly blow INEOS out of the water.
A billion is a big figure. He won't just increase the bid to blow competition out the water for shits and giggles.

Now we will see if hel do it out of genuine worry of losing the deal.
 

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At this point, I don’t give a shit who it is. Just want clarity.
I didn't until Ratcliffe started talking about keeping those leeches on. Don't trust him to get rid of them in a staggered takeover at all
 

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The reactions to this on here :lol:

This thread is by far the biggest echo chamber I've ever seen.

Anyways, seems like the nightmare of state-ownership could really be avoided...who whould've thought?
No Ratcliffe and his leeching sidekicks are the real nightmare but hey let's stay mid table just to take the moral high ground
 

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I didn't until Ratcliffe started talking about keeping those leeches on. Don't trust him to get rid of them in a staggered takeover at all
I think he might, but can't see any investments until then. So we'll just keep getting crappier
 

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No Ratcliffe and his leeching sidekicks are the real nightmare but hey let's stay mid table just to take the moral high ground
Keep regurgitating the same old baseless claims that you have been saying since February. Like I said, there are dozens of users on here that will pat you on the back for it.
 

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Whilst I don’t want to interfere in your conversation, there is also matter of the club declaring its fourth periodic financial quarter and the final end of year annual financial report. This really must be done within the 2-3 weeks maximum and if there is a potential sale, then this must also be reported to all NYSE shareholders or at least outlined.
You posted this before the Bloomberg news today.

My punt is that this is the final leak to try and get a better bid from Jassim, if you are right about the two to three week point..
 

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Keep regurgitating the same old baseless claims that you have been saying since February. Like I said, there are dozens of users on here that will pat you on the back for it.
Are you seriously trying to argue glazers are not leeches, is this what has become of ratcliffe fan boys, pretending glazers are actually good owners or something now?
 

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No Ratcliffe and his leeching sidekicks are the real nightmare but hey let's stay mid table just to take the moral high ground
I’d rather be midtable than get Qatar to be fair. We’ve been crap for ages, another 10 years is a cakewalk to me.

(I don’t want Jim either so we’re up shit creek without a paddle.)
 

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Just saw the news and remembered this thread.

Jim Glazer it is then. Darker days, but this was never going to end well, and I did expect it to end with them staying on as owners one way or another, so hardly a surprise. Oh well, it is what it is. I will just spare a thought for those who so vehemently believed him in him, and move on.
 

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My mates Aunty, knows a bloke who's sister has a mate, who's brother was chatting to a bloke in The Bishop, who said that his mates uncle reckoned Beckham was going to put a bid in alongside Jassim that included two bazooka's a Happy Meal and a free night out at the Hacienda with Giggsy and Scholes.
The Glazers have turned down the deal, and want a pint of Boddies thrown in for good measure, then the deal is done, IF they can find an empty fag packet to write the finer details on.
 

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A billion is a big figure. He won't just increase the bid to blow competition out the water for shits and giggles.

Now we will see if hel do it out of genuine worry of losing the deal.
I still maintain if Qatar thought they were going to lose the race, and they weren't going to up their bid, they'd leave on their terms.
They won't be dictated to by the Glazers, they'd pull out of negotiations and speak out to save face. They won't just be rejected
 

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Not really. It basically says Glazers might prefer Ratcliffe and Qatar might bid again.
It's in direct contrast to their last update when they said Ratcliffe's bid was dead in the water. Must mean something's changed.
 

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I still maintain if Qatar thought they were going to lose the race, and they weren't going to up their bid, they'd leave on their terms.
They won't be dictated to by the Glazers, they'd pull out of negotiations and speak out to save face. They won't just be rejected
Its not a dictatorship, I think it's an evident bidding war. Glazers prefer minority stake or a feck off offer. Qatar haven't yet given a feck off offer, and that's on them.
 

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It's in direct contrast to their last update when they said Ratcliffe's bid was dead in the water. Must mean something's changed.
Obviously something has changed. Ratcliffe made a minority offer.
 

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Its not a dictatorship, I think it's an evident bidding war. Glazers prefer minority stake or a feck off offer. Qatar haven't yet given a feck off offer, and that's on them.
Yeah and they'll withdraw if they feel they stand no chance. They're not going to let the Glazers just reject them are they?
They'll pull out and say that the Glazers are difficult to deal with and they showed no compromise etc.
 

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Yeah and they'll withdraw if they feel they stand no chance. They're not going to let the Glazers just reject them are they?
They'll pull out and say that the Glazers are difficult to deal with and they showed no compromise etc.
Yeah that's standard face saving tactics.

My point is, if the Qatar Sheikh regime for us were as rich as we thought, they'd bid the magic number to get it over the line if they were forced to.

If they didn't, I question their actual worth or perceived interest in our club specifically.
 

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They said dead in the water unless he restructured it. Which he has.
Well no he's not has he?
He's ditched his 100% in favour of a minority share, giving the Glazers upto £1 billion to pocket for whatever they want. We all know not a single penny is going into the club, the debt is going to skyrocket and we're going to sink like a stone. But hey, if Jimmy is good with that, thats on him
 

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Are you seriously trying to argue glazers are not leeches, is this what has become of ratcliffe fan boys, pretending glazers are actually good owners or something now?
What the hell are you talking about?

The Glazers are just 6 little money-crazed goblins that have been terrible owners of our club. Everyone knows that.

However, most of you have deluded yourselves into thinking that a person that's 10 times richer than said goblins, with a company that makes him so much money in a year that United's annual dividends are a drop in the bucket in comparison...will just come in and "leech" those drops off of his new multi-billion investment...yes, it's as braindead of an argument as it sounds.

This fanbase is not much better than what Newcastle has become since the saudi takeover. Twerking for blood money. Pathetic.
 

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Yeah that's standard face saving tactics.

My point is, if the Qatar Sheikh regime for us were as rich as we thought, they'd bid the magic number to get it over the line if they were forced to.

If they didn't, I question their actual worth or perceived interest in our club specifically
But they've already said they're not going to overpay, which lets be honest, £6bn for Manchester United is daylight robbery!
They could, and i think they likely will go in for it and just give what the Glazers want, but they won't be happy about it. If they want the club, they can and likely will get it. I truly believe, as others have said, this bloomberg report is an attempt from the Glazers to get Qatar to pay up a bit more
 

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Well no he's not has he?
He's ditched his 100% in favour of a minority share, giving the Glazers upto £1 billion to pocket for whatever they want. We all know not a single penny is going into the club, the debt is going to skyrocket and we're going to sink like a stone. But hey, if Jimmy is good with that, thats on him
You dont actually know anything, just that he's changed the structure of his offer for a minority stake and believed to have a staggered approach toward a majority ownership.

This idea that Ratcliff will throw money at the Glazers for them to not to reinvest in the club is bollocks. There is literally nothing in that for Ratcliffe.
 
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