Nice are 2nd in the league, undefeated and ahead of PSG.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Personally, selling Manchester United to an oil state would have been a final kick in the teeth from the parasites. So I'm relieved to hear the news.
I don't claim to know the intentions of the other party, whether they will now move forward, nor how much of what we've read is true. So normally I'd try to encourage patience and restraint when it comes to throwing out doom scenarios based on little information. But anyone wanting to own United should face the harsh questions of the fans. There should be an inherent distrust from us towards them. Because, as we've seen, the owners can do great damage through incompetence and greed. We MUST maintain greater interest in the ownership and stewardship of this club.
I will continue to not spend a penny that benefits the Glazers. I'd encourage anyone who wants to support the future of the club to find a fan group that you feel can best represent your views and give them a few quid if you can. Some of these groups do great work putting pressure on the club(in all areas, not just ownership issues), but they are always underfunded and the more members they have, the greater the clout when talking to the club.
Stick together reds. Remember who the enemy is. LUHG!
I don't claim to know the intentions of the other party, whether they will now move forward, nor how much of what we've read is true. So normally I'd try to encourage patience and restraint when it comes to throwing out doom scenarios based on little information. But anyone wanting to own United should face the harsh questions of the fans. There should be an inherent distrust from us towards them. Because, as we've seen, the owners can do great damage through incompetence and greed. We MUST maintain greater interest in the ownership and stewardship of this club.
I will continue to not spend a penny that benefits the Glazers. I'd encourage anyone who wants to support the future of the club to find a fan group that you feel can best represent your views and give them a few quid if you can. Some of these groups do great work putting pressure on the club(in all areas, not just ownership issues), but they are always underfunded and the more members they have, the greater the clout when talking to the club.
Stick together reds. Remember who the enemy is. LUHG!
Guys, you need to let go of thinking that Manchester United is a formidable club it once was. It's over. We're never winning another PL or UCL again.
There is a proud, beautiful history that we will always fondly remember, but that's it. We're "the underdogs" now and that's what we will be in the future. We're not in the same class, elite anymore as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester City, Liverpool, Bayern, PSG, Newcastle(in the future), Arsenal even...
We are a joke. Feck you Glazers.
There is a proud, beautiful history that we will always fondly remember, but that's it. We're "the underdogs" now and that's what we will be in the future. We're not in the same class, elite anymore as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester City, Liverpool, Bayern, PSG, Newcastle(in the future), Arsenal even...
We are a joke. Feck you Glazers.
Yup. Owning a club is not a 1 time investment. It's a long term thing. You have to invest, and keep investing. If you wanted it, take some funds from your other promises, delay things if you need to, operate smartly but do what is needed to take over.
I honestly don't think Jassim would be running the day-to-day side of the business. One would hope that he would have employed the best in class for all of the crucial positions. Anyway, it's a moot point. We'll just have to hope for the best.
Ineos will have majority control of the club in less than 3 years, if you believe the recent reports.
A vote for Jim is a vote for the Glazers, if that's what you're celebrating you should hang your head in shame!
After 8 games. They‘ve finished mid table for the past 4 years.
Even that stat is deceiving they’ve won 4/8 games in France this season even United have done that and people want the manager out
The tweet is true BUT it's there for one reason, baiting United fans.
Unfortunately the majority fall for it.
So that’s that the Glazers remaining in full control
Of our club with a 25% investment from SJR. People we’re fecked!
Of our club with a 25% investment from SJR. People we’re fecked!
Nah, that’s really not an accurate or balanced stance on it.
If you were selling your house, which you’d run into the ground, filled with debt that you couldn’t afford to pay and needed a new roof that you weren’t able to provide. Your neighbours utterly hate you and petition regularly for you to feck off.
Yet, due to your own delusional greed, you were asking more than double its market worth subsequently ensuring that you only had 1 proper bidder.
That bidder offers you far more than its market value because he has a sentimental connection with the street you live on.
Another guy offers to lend you money to rent just one of your four bedrooms. He can’t buy the house because he can’t afford it and will also be using debt from his other house to pay for one of your four bedrooms.
You choose the second guy, and tell the neighbours who utterly despise you that he is the new owner and will just be buying the house ‘gradually’…
Two things would be glaringly obvious -
1. You are still the owner of the house, not the guy paying for 1 of your bedrooms (25%).
2. You very likely never wanted to sell and just wanted someone to lend you some money to enable you staying in the house you’ve run into the ground.
I'm pretty sure the 2 of us have discussed our opinions a few months ago already, and it's pretty clear that we won't be able to sway each others' opinion.
For me, United becoming state-owned has been one of my biggest football nightmares and the fact that we've likely avoided that for a decade at least (likely longer) makes me feel an incredible sense of relief.
And it isn't like the alternative is bad. Even under the 6 goblins we could compete with any other club in the transfer market. Now we'll have an owner that's 10x richer than the whole Glazer family combined and will care about the club more than the Glazers ever did. We are filthy rich without being state-owned, I don't think people realize how privileged that is.
Falling for… the truth?
No it's not. Jim/Ineos will have majority control of the club within a couple years and 100% ownership within 3-6 years, according to reports.
You sort of knew the Glazers were staying the moment FSG stated that Liverpool was off the market. Something big is coming that us little people aren't privy to.
The chance to wind us up.
What difference does the share price make? its gone up and down for the past year and hasnt made a blind bit of difference with people willing to overpay for it
No excuses.
Money needs to be invested in the squad in order to provide our manager with an elite squad that's among the best in the world. Hoard the best talents every year and build an immensely powerful squad that you can build on for years to come, akin to Bayern and Madrid in the last 15 years, or Arsenal in the last 1-2 years. No more "3 major signings per summer" as Ole claimed in his interview.
We need to improve and redevelop Old Trafford + other infrastructural improvements.
Good.
Nicely put
Smoke and mirrors.
it ain’t over until It’s over.
Hold tight everyone.
It’s been bullshit v bullshit all the way so expect nothing more.
it ain’t over until It’s over.
Hold tight everyone.
It’s been bullshit v bullshit all the way so expect nothing more.
They won’t and if they are Nice doesn’t give any cause for optimism
I see what you did there.
seems like now they didn't get what they wanted, they are trying to sow as much division in the fanbase as possible with this constant "oh what I would have done for you" bs
True but if the people they hired to handle the bid were any indication then we'd more likely be another PSG clown show than City's oiled machine, which is probably what most are fantasizing about.
and you say my post isn't balanced FFSIt's more like... Jim's bid values the club higher. He is buying it in a multi stage takeover (which at the very least you should say "we'll see" on but I am pretty confident in that being the case.. cause logic), and the total cost is more than what Jassim is bidding.
All that other stuff you are talking about is pointless. It is a competition of who wants to pay more to take over from the Glazers. Jassim lost. That's it. Stop making up bullshit to distract from that.
Nobody is lending money. Ratcliffe is buying 25% (with the view for full ownership in 3 years). He isn't gifting 25%< he isn't renting, he is buying.
Fall for the truth?
It will be interesting to see the exact details of this minority investment because if it was just a pure share transfer they wouldnt need a board ratification as that would be a private transaction, like it happened before when the Rats were selling their shares on the market. If the board is involved in this maybe its the club issuing new shares to Jim, I don't know about the legalities and formalities required for that.
If its the Glazers pocketing 1.8b then we are fecked like never before because Sir Jim won't be investing anything significant until he at least crosses the majority control threshold.
If its the Glazers pocketing 1.8b then we are fecked like never before because Sir Jim won't be investing anything significant until he at least crosses the majority control threshold.
Very happy with this news.
The recent reports says that they will, do you have a source that says otherwise? Fair point about Nice, I'm not convinced that Ineos will be fantastic owners but that's kinda a different discussion.
he isn;t taking control.
We are a billion pounds in debt, and the glazers, who in their entire ownership of the club have never invested even one penny in Manchester United, are still owners and in control.
Where do you think this funding is coming from?
I’m falling for it then.
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I respect your opinion. I can see why some fans don’t want Qatar because of the politics behind a state backed bid.
But I just feel Jim isn’t up for the fight and his history in France and Switzerland would back that up. His bid also stinks the Glazers will be here for years and so will the debt and failing facilities. There’s no evidence in anything he’s done in football to even suggest he will invest he seems happy to make up the numbers
There won't be a share price when Ineos buy the 31% of the club floated on the NYSE. It will be taken off of the stock market.
Can’t disagree with you, but City’s owners didn’t have a track record either. I would have to assume Jassim would employ the right people to run the club, and not take any active involvement himself aside from financing it. SJR already has a questionable track record at Nice.
Isn't SJR the one with the sentimental connection to the street in this awful analogy? Jassim would be looking to buy the house to sanitize the reputation of...*analogy falls apart further*
Edit: what's with the autocorrect on S J R about?
I get the arguments against the Jassim bid, but it would have been a clean and clear break from the leeches once and for all.
Who fecking runs us now?
Who fecking runs us now?
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