Who replaces Ten Hag?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Cheeky look at the odds:

Zidane 4/1
Nagelsmann 5/1
Di Zerbi 15/2
Potter 10/1
Carrick 12/1
Conte 16/1
 
De Zerbi makes the most sense but would have to be end of the season. Is Ange settled in London yet?
 
Cheeky look at the odds:

Zidane 4/1
Nagelsmann 5/1
Di Zerbi 15/2
Potter 10/1
Carrick 12/1
Conte 16/1
I can't see Zidane coming anywhere near us at the mo. Nagelsmann and Di Zerbi would feel to me like another flavour of the month hire. Please God not Conte or potter. Would rather see McKenna than Carrick but realistically it's probably too early for either.

I say all this well aware that I've absolutely no alternatives!
 
Is it that crazy a notion? If ten Hag was sacked tomorrow, what Top Tier manager would realistically replace him…?

Yes it's crazy. People are so fecking stupid it's unbelievable.
 
We'll NEVER win anything whilst we are infested by the glazers. Changing managers only provides cover and more time for those corrupt, inept parasites. Time for fans to drop tools and strike the club in whatever feeble chance we have to chase them out. They will NEVER leave until they've squeezed every last drop of blood from the club. Walk away.

We will never get a better coach than ETH. The club itself is rotten to the core and no decent manager in their right mind would come here. Après Eric, le déluge.

I'm seriously thinking about taking time out from football. My club is dying of the Glazer cancer and it's hard to watch.
 
Bielsa would be wonderful as a short-term option, honestly. Double murder-ball, sort the chancers from those who at least merit being retained as squad options.

He's a coach first and foremost, and one committed fully to exactly what we're lacking in terms of off the ball movement, quick interplay, consistent pressing across the team etc. Bielsa and a new , competent DOF being eased in whilst we recruit for a longer-term manager would be potentially season-saving in terms of a top-4 push, bringing in young players and raising their top-flight decision-making levels as well as core fitness
Yeah, weird but as a short term option someone like Bielsa or Simeone (unrealistic of course) would be ideal to shake our useless squad up a little.

But to tell you the truth, long term, I've no idea. I had high hopes for ETH and hope he can turn us around, but the trajectory at the moment isn't great.

Maybe with our defence back we can start moving in the right direction again.
 
Its a largely irrelevant question, the club is not geared up for footballing success, thats the reality, and until the vast majority of the fans come to see that they are being hypno played royally by the owners then the manager will always be the fall guy.
 
De Zerbi makes the most sense but would have to be end of the season. Is Ange settled in London yet?

De Zerbi doesn't make any sense whatsoever, it's such a shallow suggestion, his career is getting relegated and fired in Italy before Brighton. There's absolutely nothing to suggest he can handle the extreme pressure, and the wider responsibilities that some with the United role.
 
You laugh but the top managers will be laughing at our club sale limbo land.
You’re allowed complete control of the footballing side of the club, a transfer budget of £200m a season, fans willing to give you ‘time’ because of the clubs owners, sign whatever players you want with zero reasoning except “I know him”. What isn’t there to love about being the United manager? You think people are going to turn it down because the owners aren’t interested in what you’re doing?
 
The managers have come and gone and nothing has changed. Players have come and gone and nothing has changed. If the Glazers remain with the club nothing will change. I’m fine with ten hag staying, the club is what it is at this point until the glazers leave. This is not the Manchester United we all grew up with and it won’t be as long as those scumbags are involved.
 
De Zerbi alongside Jim’s new footballing setup with a clear goal of getting the players he needs for his system and style of play. Will have to wait until the summer but that’s what id be lining up the minute Jim gets control they should be identifying players for the summer.
 
So we should give him even more time to set the club back even further and waste even more money on players that another manager will have to replace. That’s a sound way to run the club. If anything we are where we are because we always take way too long to replace coaches. We must be the only club in the world whose fan base cultivates this idea that any, literally any manager will come good if they are given enough time. It’s bonkers.

This.

We have lost 14/48 league games conceding 41 goals whilst scoring just 9. It’s embarrassingly bad and I only see it getting worse.
We look such a poorly coached team. Jose, LvG were nowhere near this bad and they both won more substantial trophies regardless of us being boring to watch etc. This manager doesn’t seem to have a clue and the constant playing of players who he just refuses to drop is mind boggling, along with team selections and bizarre substitutions…never mind some of his very dubious and unnecessary signings.

For reference the managers we did sack;

Ole lost 24/109 league games.
Jose 17/93.
LvG 16/76.
Moyes 11/34.

He is just about ahead of Moyes and I’m sure he will be worse than him in a few more weeks. Hopefully the knob heads running the club are at least sounding out some potential replacements.
 
I still think only a manager like Ancelotti or maybe Zidane could have success at the club currently.
 
De Zerbi doesn't make any sense whatsoever, it's such a shallow suggestion, his career is getting relegated and fired in Italy before Brighton. There's absolutely nothing to suggest he can handle the extreme pressure, and the wider responsibilities that some with the United role.

Agreed 100%. As i said in this thread or another one, if Brighton finish 8th and 27 points off the winners, its considered a good season. At United its a terrible season. We just dont know what De Zerbi is like at a massive club whose ambitions are to win Premier Leagues. He could be good - we just dont know. We all thought Ten hag was the messiah given his football at Ajax.
 
Agreed 100%. As i said in this thread or another one, if Brighton finish 8th and 27 points off the winners, its considered a good season. At United its a terrible season. We just dont know what De Zerbi is like at a massive club whose ambitions are to win Premier Leagues. He could be good - we just dont know. We all thought Ten hag was the messiah given his football at Ajax.
What does he have to do, challenge City for the title with Brighton?
 
Agreed 100%. As i said in this thread or another one, if Brighton finish 8th and 27 points off the winners, its considered a good season. At United its a terrible season. We just dont know what De Zerbi is like at a massive club whose ambitions are to win Premier Leagues. He could be good - we just dont know. We all thought Ten hag was the messiah given his football at Ajax.

Not only that, there's this silly belief that he'll just come in and miraculously coach our players into a possession based team overnight.
 
I think the structure of the club is fecked like everyone else has said. Maybe wishful thinking but I'd like to see what Carrick could do. One of the most tactically astute players I've seen playing the game so you'd hope that might translate. He is obviously short on experience though at this level.

His couple of games in charge were much better than Rangnick’s and he’s younger so a little more in tune with the younger generation being coached today.
 
Ineos seem to be getting their shit together at Nice. Top of the league with Francesco Farioli in charge.

They may repeat the process and bring in Farioli's mentor, De Zerbi, at United.

A man who we know is Premier League proven and has his own philosophy. De Zerbi wouldn't give two shits about who he benches. If they don't work in his system, they are out. Combine De Zerbi with a DOF like Mitchell and you have a winning combination.
 
What does he have to do, challenge City for the title with Brighton?

This is faulty logic, and you surely know that. The question is what makes him qualified for the job? Can you point to anything he's won, or achievements that demonstrate an ability to handle the pressure he'd be under here, or any environments he's been successful in that have a similarly dysfunctional setup above him that we do?
 
Cheeky look at the odds:

Zidane 4/1
Nagelsmann 5/1
Di Zerbi 15/2
Potter 10/1
Carrick 12/1
Conte 16/1

Still don’t think Zidane wants any part of this. Isn’t Nagelsmann the Germany manager now? Di Zerbi will obviously be the name on everyone’s lips but would he fancy coming in to this mess mid season? I feel like Potter will be overlooked by the top clubs after his stint at Chelsea until he does something at another club.

Carrick was my favorite player for most of his time here and while I would love him to be our manager someday it’s simply too soon for him. Please no Conte.

The other name not mentioned is Flick.

Overall though, barring something like relegation form, I think ETH will get this season at least because there any any obvious options for replacing him right now.
 
De Zerbi doesn't make any sense whatsoever, it's such a shallow suggestion, his career is getting relegated and fired in Italy before Brighton. There's absolutely nothing to suggest he can handle the extreme pressure, and the wider responsibilities that some with the United role.
How would you handle the situation? How much time should ETH be given? Who should replace him?
 
This is faulty logic, and you surely know that. The question is what makes him qualified for the job? Can you point to anything he's won, or achievements that demonstrate an ability to handle the pressure he'd be under here, or any environments he's been successful in that have a similarly dysfunctional setup above him that we do?
Faulty logic was @Hugh Jass comparing our expectations with Brighton and you 'fully agreeing' with it
 
So we should give him even more time to set the club back even further and waste even more money on players that another manager will have to replace. That’s a sound way to run the club. If anything we are where we are because we always take way too long to replace coaches. We must be the only club in the world whose fan base cultivates this idea that any, literally any manager will come good if they are given enough time. It’s bonkers.

Exactly
 
We need an elite coach. Its not good enough for Manchester United to make top four - we have to be winning Premier leagues. So how many elite coaches are available?

Simone would be interesting but can he speak english - which also applies to Zidane.

Neither would touch Utd with a barge pole currently, no ‘elite coach would’.

The Glazers are toxic, have literally no structure and even with Pratcliffe initially comes in, any top manager will steer clear while the situation settles.

You’ll be looking at guys like Potter, De Z, T Frank etc - no higher in profile.

And that’s maybe for the best.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.