Yes, he should come good over time. I had issues with his age/experience especially in that position. He should have stayed another year. Problem is if he puts in a few bad games and they start talking about putting him in as a sub it will hurt his confidence and it could take a while to adapt. I am just not sure Chelsea needed him either. I saw him slot in better at Pool essentially reuniting hin with MacAllister. Is Enzo really suited for a more advanced role? Maybe I have not seen him enough....
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I'm sure there are many red carded players on their debut match. A red carded player may have had a decent match apart from the card. A card is just one rash moment, which may sometimes cost a team points.
But, Caicedo was all-round, consistently and persistently bad throughout the cameo debut.
Looked like a player who didn't have a pre season. I m confident that he is still the missing link in midfield for that chelsea team. The next few games are great fixtures to get him integrated and up to pace
So what’s your opinion of Poch bringing on a player with so little pre season when chasing a game that he forgot how to play football?
He is their marquee signing and most fans even wanted him to start that game. I thought it was a good tactical decision in concept and that Caceido would help shield the back four, so other attacking players could be more adventurous in the attack.
The alternative was Ugo on the bench and if poch had bought him on instead, many would criticize him on why caceido didn't start Or come on. It was an gamble either decision he made. I m sure Caceido will bounce back from that.
If people think he will flop, then they haven't seen him play. Him and Caceido are brilliant midfielders and with consistent game time, they will make chelsea more competitive.
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Let me also add that the Caceido transfer should have been completed at the beginning of the window when they lost out on urgarte. It was a complete mess, that they waited last minute and as a result of that, he didn't have a preseason and ended up paying over £15m more than what they would have gotten him. Their recruitment team isn't as great as it seems
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Hadn't realised we were ever in for Caicedo before he went to Brighton:
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Obviously not writing him off in any way, shape or form, but he had a nightmare debut - giving away the penalty - and he was fecking awful again today. Plenty of time to come good, but it’s pretty crazy this guy holds the British transfer record.
It would be highly amusing to see him flop. But something tells me that once he and Enzo get settled as a double act, they’ll be very good.
It would be highly amusing to see him flop. But something tells me that once he and Enzo get settled as a double act, they’ll be very good.
He was pretty good today actually, horrific goal conceded aside. Obviously his part in Forest’s goal was awful and that will be factored in with his overall performance, but the goal aside he was actually really good.
He's a water carrier and like with Cucu we paid at least double his worth, if not triple. Had the opportunity to walk away and let Liverpool do it as well.
Our owners are batshit crazy.
Our owners are batshit crazy.
Not sure slagging off Caceido makes sense when the team in general look pretty dysfunctional.
Two match-deciding moments in three games. Worth every penny this guy.
Redcafe’s midfield messiah. When will people understand that at the highest level, team function and chemistry is more important that anyone individual talent?
Chelsea are like if Real Madrid did wonderkids instead of Galacticos.
Boehly will learn slowly to buy players for a system not based on the latest trending players.
Enzo and Caicedo is frightening as a pair but of course getting a system that works isn't easy
I agree.
Why people want to sign players from Brighton for £100m I have no idea. Of course some will come good, but their dependence on having a strong system makes it such a big risk.
Caf has a lot of muppets.
Because we haven't wasted enough money buying players from Dortmund, they want us to do the same with another system club.
Boehly cursed 
You can have 2 or 3 solid performances and certain members of the fanbase on here will be screaming for the club to sign them.
Caicedo is obviously a good player but he’s still very young and has played less than 50 league games at the top level.
The price tag is going to be like a millstone around his neck.
Not really Cursed but it's like buying a Steering wheel from a Ferrari for your car but you only have a Fiat Punto.Boehly cursed
They really need to identify how they want to play before going in for these kind of players.
Then again, who in their right mind goes to this dysfunctional Chelsea-side instead of working with Klopp?
Guess the contract offer was much better.
Money, Chelsea are the same as United 5 years ago now. Go there for a long contract and pay day. I'm sure agents advise them to do so.
You don't go to Chelsea for the badge, and passion for the club.
Its London + money.
If you want football go to Liverpool with Klopp, but who wants to go to Liverpool for the city?
So, other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play tonight?
I don't agree with you. He looks lost and have no idea what to do. I wonder how a guy who I value less than £10m can cost over £100m. Something dosen't add up here.
Djemba-Djemba without that cool name.
No offense, but it's because you are a fan not a scout.
Klopp or money?
Yep. Chelsea should look at our intricate method of recruitment and complete success with signings this last decade.
No offense taken. However I'm not going say what I'm or not.
Thought this guy was an absolute star at Brighton, and really wanted us to break the bank for him this summer. But blimey he looked very very average tonight.
He’s still very young and can turn it around, but he looks completely lost in this Chelsea side.
@WeePat what's happened to him and Enzo?
Maybe de Zerbi is that good a manager that he makes average players look world class
Im not WeePat but I feel like Enzo has the potential to make it. He needs to get more mature in his head. Sometimes he tries too much.
Caicedo on the other, I must admit I was never convinced. He was a dynamic midfielder in a well oiled machine but never worth 120m, he looks like a player that is made to shine by a good system around him rather than a player would make the system better. Still young, can still turn it around but I have my doubts
Remember when paying 120m for his was a no-brainer as he would solve our midfield issues? Football does not work like that.
I think Fernandez has the potential but Caicedo looks average.
feck me this guys been utter trash. Tonight was astonishing. I could not actually believe how bad he was. Absolutely nowhere in midfield. Constantly rushing passes and in no man’s land picking up Bruno/Mctominay etc.
I don't think so, Caicedo has always been rated, even pre-Brighton, and was good under Potter too. I think the combination of loss of form, increased expectation, an unsettled team around him, a new manager still finding his feet, and Chelsea's general recent chaos is enough to have affected how he looks on the pitch. And I'm informed by Chelsea fans he has had some good games for them.
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