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#07

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What are the quality of the chances though?
I am sure you can reply to Squawka and ask for the Big Chances number. I'd be surprised if the two figures were wildly divergent.
 

Gabriel Djemba-Bebe

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The difference I think people see, is that Bruno is a flamboyant Portugueezer who looks like he’s whining, compared to a Keane/Rooney who look like ‘hard men’ who want to knock your block off.

I’m pretty sure the message is the same from all 3, i.e “ref that was a shite decision” or for their teammates to start doing their jobs properly. I imagine Keane would be tearing absolute strips off people like Rashford if he were playing alongside them and they’re walking about. Bruno is not allowed to do it though because he looks like he’s crying or something.
Exactly. It reminds me of the conversations in the media around footballers diving. When British players do it, it's 'smart' as they're 'leaving their leg in'. When foreign players do it, they're diving cheats.
 

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I’m a bit lost, what is it with all the Bruno chest beating. He had a good game but it was hardly a performance to point and laugh at doubters of his.

People like me who don’t rate Bruno that highly don’t think he’s a bad player. He’s quite obviously a good player but one whose limitations put a ceiling on how good a team can be in my opinion. No sane fan wants him dropped as any hopes of making top four is highly dependent on him reaching top form.

With Bruno the discussion is moving forward and us moving away from him and his style of football.
 

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I think this one’s simple. Rooney you could see was class. This guy isn’t so it’s a problem.
So when Rooney was no longer class you changed your opinion of his on pitch persona? You flipped from being ok with his actions to no longer liking it. As you are with Bruno now?
 

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I’m a bit lost, what is it with all the Bruno chest beating. He had a good game but it was hardly a performance to point and laugh at doubters of his.

People like me who don’t rate Bruno that highly don’t think he’s a bad player. He’s quite obviously a good player but one whose limitations put a ceiling on how good a team can be in my opinion. No sane fan wants him dropped as any hopes of making top four is highly dependent on him reaching top form.

With Bruno the discussion is moving forward and us moving away from him and his style of football.
What yesterday cemented for me was that Bruno is dependant on midfield setup. If you have proper intelligent players behind him and give him freedom to actually focus on being a chance creating 10 he is immense. And in that scenario I fully believe you can win trophys with him.
If you have a bad midfield or unbalanced midfield behind him there is zero reason to play him though.

If we get a weekly combo of Casemiro - Mainoo / Casemiro - Eriksen / Mainoo - Eriksen, dependant on opposition for the rest of this season, then I fully believe we will see a fantastic Bruno.
Our number one priority in the summer transfermarket should be to find a young Eriksen.
 

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He’s a reasonable poster because he likes Bruno? He’s regularly resorting to childish insults. There’s one a couple of posts above yours…and my post today was a montage of his best quotes on another player all of which he totally ignores when it comes to Bruno.
That’s not reasonable it’s laughable.
Jeppers what you should be asking yourself is how or maybe why you can so quickly put together a montage of another posters comments. Some of them I'm guessing going back a bit. This despite you saying you haven't got much time.

I'm not sure who you're more obsessed with. Pogba, Bruno or @Pogue Mahone.

That post about Pogue is not a strong look for you.
 

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Like clockwork
What's the issue? Surely these threads are tailor-made for such content! It's highly relevant and recently published. Not to mention it adds some much needed positivity to this miserable place.

Keep up the good work, @#07 ! It's very appreciated!
 

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So when Rooney was no longer class you changed your opinion of his on pitch persona? You flipped from being ok with his actions to no longer liking it. As you are with Bruno now?
He lost his aggression with his ability. It kind of went hand in hand tbf. Didn’t you live it?
 

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The man can only make chances, he can't simultaneously score them...
Last time I checked we wasn’t the team known for squandering chances. We are the team known for not creating any. There’s another beautiful stat out there of Hoijlund having the least amount of services in the league. Strange we he has this chance machine behind him.
 

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Pogue Mahone

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/foot...ms-that-he-has-lost-his-agressive-1692895.amp

We aren’t all the same. It’s why some people can’t see Bruno’s faults and some can.

Same people probably can’t even remember Rooney’s game changing then want to act like you’re the stupid one.

Well the link above is the man claiming so himself. But you probably know better.
You’re linking an interview with him when he was 24 years old. If you think his ability had gone by then that really confirms what I just said.
 

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You’re linking an interview with him when he was 24 years old. If you think his ability had gone by then that really just confirms what I just said.
He was fading the year of that bicycle kick against City after coming back from Oregon. I’d happily state it was downhill from there. He wasn’t the same player. Still a very good player but not the same.

We can agree to disagree I know what I felt.

Let me add it sounds good saying he was 24 I’m sure at 34 he was a fat manager.
 

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If only you realised the context is the most important part. It wasn’t a high level game.
Ah, so he shouted at the ref in non-important friendlies but was a quiet, respectful 'captain professional' in PL games in the latter stages of his career?
 

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He was fading the year of that bicycle kick against City after coming back from Oregon. I’d happily state it was downhill from there. He wasn’t the same player. Still a very good player but not the same.

We can agree to disagree I know what I felt.
I mean, he literally had his most prolific season ever a year after that interview but whatever, this is a pointless tangent.
 

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I mean, he literally had his most prolific season ever a year after that interview but whatever, this is a pointless tangent.
Bro either talk about the football or talk about the stats. Add some more colour to your arguments it makes it more interesting. We literally brought RVP In the year after that to show him how it’s supposed to be done.
 

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Ah, so he shouted at the ref in non-important friendlies but was a quiet, respectful 'captain professional' in PL games in the latter stages of his career?
I mean I clearly referenced ‘aggression’ not his ability to have an argument in a football match. What’s with these stupid points tonight.
 

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I mean, he literally had his most prolific season ever a year after that interview but whatever, this is a pointless tangent.
I agree with him as someone who also watched every second of those seasons. The peak of Rooney was the 09-10 season until the Bayern injury, which changed him forever, and then the tail end of the 10-11 season with the run to the CL final and his great performance in the win over Chelsea 2-1 to secure the title. In 11-12, he started like a house on fire, and put up great numbers (huge amounts of penalties though it must be said) and dwindled badly come Christmas. By January 2012 the "shit first touch, slow" Rooney we came to hate had started to make the odd appearance. Don't let the numbers in 11-12 lie to you - he was a far, far better player the previous two seasons.
 

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Bro either talk about the football or talk about the stats. Add some more colour to your arguments it makes it more interesting. We literally brought RVP In the year after that to show him how it’s supposed to be done.
The feck are you going on about now? Your last few posts have been a masterpiece in talking absolute bollox about football. No idea how I haven’t put you on ignore before. Oh well. Better late than never.
 

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I mean I clearly referenced ‘aggression’ not his ability to have an argument in a football match. What’s with these stupid points tonight.
I wasn't the one who said that Bruno needs to stop arguing with the ref. I agree - it is a stupid point.
 

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I agree with him as someone who also watched every second of those seasons. The peak of Rooney was the 09-10 season until the Bayern injury, which changed him forever, and then the tail end of the 10-11 season with the run to the CL final and his great performance in the win over Chelsea 2-1 to secure the title. In 11-12, he started like a house on fire, and put up great numbers (huge amounts of penalties though it must be said) and dwindled badly come Christmas. By January 2012 the "shit first touch, slow" Rooney we came to hate had started to make the odd appearance. Don't let the numbers in 11-12 lie to you - he was a far, far better player the previous two seasons.
All after the interview above, when he said he’d lost his aggression. Which yer man seems to think is when he went into decline.

Anyway, the point is he was no less of a moaner as his ability waned. If anything he got more and more cranky. Which is understandable.
 

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All after the interview above, when he said he’d lost his aggression. Which yer man seems to think is when he went into decline.

Anyway, the point is he was no less of a moaner as his ability waned. If anything he got more and more cranky. Which is understandable.
The point was he wasn’t the same player and my timeline doesn’t differ too much from his I just gave him a few months of a new season.

You are just talking like a poster who didn’t watch those years which is okay. Or maybe you did but you just couldn’t see it like you can’t see that Bruno is shite. ;)
 

Gabriel Djemba-Bebe

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I miss the good old days when we would shamelessly use Goals & Assists as metrics to claim Bruno >>> KdB
I've seen a few comparisons between Bruno and De Bruyne on the caf (I've made them myself) to counteract arguments about pass completion, however I've never seen anyone say he was a better player than De Bruyne. Feel free to pull up some quotes to prove me wrong. I'd be surprised if you did.
 

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All after the interview above, when he said he’d lost his aggression. Which yer man seems to think is when he went into decline.

Anyway, the point is he was no less of a moaner as his ability waned. If anything he got more and more cranky. Which is understandable.
With Rooney at least he would smash someone from time to time so it was rage and aggression.
Rooney gives hardman vibes. If he shouts out you, you sheepishly smile and say “sorry Wayne” with your head down.

With Bruno it just looks like whinging and moaning like a spoiled brat, especially with all the time he spends on the deck. If Bruno shouts at you, you’re more likely to tell him “I dare you to raise your voice at me one more time”.

I think that’s why with one player it’s inspiring and with another it’s just annoying.