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The guy knows nothing useful and I've proved it over and over. That's all.
He's been ahead of the curve on a lot of stuff regarding the Ratcliffe bid, he must know someone. Don't let it turn you green with envy bro it's not worth it.
 

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He's been ahead of the curve on a lot of stuff regarding the Ratcliffe bid, he must know someone. Don't let it turn you green with envy bro it's not worth it.
No he hasn't, and I've proved that in previous posts at the time. Move on.
 

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You didn't prove anything mate, you just disagreed.
Yes I did, you can go back and find them. There were times you suggested that Muppetiers broke something (of significance this time) that was non public, and I showed how it wasn't. I gave a Ben Jacob's tweet that actually said the same news hours earlier.

I then asked for a single piece of significant news that he gave first, and got nothing.

Today he said Ratcliff was coming first and you think that's some sort of vindication, when really it isn't. The tea lady probably knew that. It doesn't mean he is in the know of actual club matters.

Now move on.
 

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Yes I did, you can go back and find them. There were times you suggested that Muppetiers broke something (of significance this time) that was non public, and I showed how it wasn't. I gave a Ben Jacob's tweet that actually said the same news hours earlier.

I then asked for a single piece of significant news that he gave first, and got nothing.

Today he said Ratcliff was coming first and you think that's some sort of vindication, when really it isn't. The tea lady probably knew that. It doesn't mean he is in the know of actual club matters.

Now move on.
On December 31st actually.
 

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Didn't the Muppetiers guy call the last Qatari bid back in June at least 30 minutes before other journalists published the story?
 

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On December 31st actually.
Your words...
Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Do you want me to repeat the point, because you are just micro debating like a child?

Muppetiers don't know anything remotely significant. They never did, and when I pushed you on multiple occasions for a single example you couldn't provide one.

This man child saying Ratcliffe is coming to OT for a little visit today is not a significant piece of news that vindicates him.

I've told you on a private message where I work and what information that accesses me to. I knew one or two things too but I don't actually pretend to know every thing that happens in a football club.

Now move on, you're wasting my time.
 

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Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Do you want me to repeat the point, because you are just micro debating like a child?

Muppetiers don't know anything remotely significant. They never did, and when I pushed you on multiple occasions for a single example you couldn't provide one.

This man child saying Ratcliffe is coming to OT for a little visit today is not a significant piece of news that vindicates him.

Now move on, you're wasting my time.
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fecking arguing over a guy spouting shit through his discord.

I joined it a couple of years ago to see if there was anything decent in there, the amount of stuff they call wrong is astounding, never seems to get brought up though by those that believe him.
 

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@VP89 is right. The Muppetiers guy knows feck all. They fling loads of shit at the wall and then when one thing turns out to be true they somehow bamboozle people into thinking they're ITK, completely ignoring everything they eat wrong. They're Indykaila with a Patreon account.

Sit Jim will recommend that Ten Hag is sacked within the next 60 days, after his discussion with him today didn't go well.

There. Boom. That's how you become ITK. If Ten Hag doesn't get sacked I'll be back to explain how he managed to persuade Ratcliffe to give him more time.
 

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@VP89 is right. The Muppetiers guy knows feck all. They fling loads of shit at the wall and then when one thing turns out to be true they somehow bamboozle people into thinking they're ITK, completely ignoring everything they eat wrong. They're Indykaila with a Patreon account.
Since there are loads of examples of him getting loads of stuff wrong you might be able to post a few of them?
 

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Since there are loads of examples of him getting loads of stuff wrong you might be able to post a few of them?
Why do you keep doing this? We've had a debate months ago where you asked me to prove he rehashed public info and I did. You then fell silent after I asked for what significant news he actually broke exclusively.

Normally a source has to be proven credible before needing to proven otherwise. If I rock up and I say I know Sir Jim's plans, and you ask me to prove how I do, my argument isn't going to be "aha no wait, I technically haven't said anything wrong about them yet!"


Its obvious what he does, and his account has actually been massively debunked in years gone by, there was a transfer muppetiers hype before it fell apart when he got a ton of shite wrong in the past.
 

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Why do you keep doing this? We've had a debate months ago where you asked me to prove he rehashed public info and I did. You then fell silent after I asked for what significant news he actually broke exclusively.

Its obvious what he does, and he's account has actually been massively debunked in years gone by, there was a transfer muppetiers hype before it fell apart when he got a ton of shite wrong in the past.
I’m not interested in the transfer stuff. I’m asking what he’s said regarding the takeover that has been bullshit? He’s been consistently towing the INEOS line even when at times it looked like Qatar were leading and it made him look salty or biased in their favour.

He’s been consistently accurate throughout the strategic review which points towards someone feeding him information.

If you don’t like what I say then don’t reply to me it’s simple. You’re clearly biased.
 

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I’m not interested in the transfer stuff. I’m asking what he’s said regarding the takeover that has been bullshit? He’s been consistently towing the INEOS line even when at times it looked like Qatar were leading and it made him look salty or biased in their favour.

He’s been consistently accurate throughout the strategic review which points towards someone feeding him information.

If you don’t like what I say then don’t reply to me it’s simple. You’re clearly biased.
Hes rehashed public information at every step of the way and I proved that to you with a Ben Jacob's example which you (rather foolishly) thought was a muppetiers exclusive.
You also can't come out and say "ignore all the stuff that was BS about one area, but about another area which happens to be even more tougher to get information from he's really good. Even if he does use mosiac theory to piece together an article".

That doesn't make me biased by the way, we are taught how to sniff out this sort of bullshit in high school (critical thinking).
 

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Hes rehashed public information at every step of the way and I proved that to you with a Ben Jacob's example which you (rather foolishly) thought was a muppetiers exclusive.
You also can't come out and say "ignore all the stuff that was BS about one area, but about another area which happens to be even more tougher to get information from he's really good. Even if he does use mosiac theory to piece together an article".

That doesn't make me biased by the way, we are taught how to sniff out this sort of bullshit in high school (critical thinking).
Ahh now you’re resorting to calling me uneducated.

Always a great sign that you’re winning an argument when you have to resort to personal insults (which you have done multiple times but I’m not interested in responding to)
 

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The guy knows nothing useful and I've proved it over and over. That's all.
I can’t find an example because it would take me too long. But he has occasionally said something like “story dropping in X minutes regarding X” and then it has.

You said you proved muppetears to be a fraud a lot. How did you explain those posts?

@Berbaclass @BerbaDean
 

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I can’t find an example because it would take me too long. But he has occasionally said something like “story dropping in X minutes regarding X” and then it has.

You said you proved muppetears to be a fraud a lot. How did you explain those posts?

@Berbaclass @BerbaDean
Like this you mean

 

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Imagine being so defensive over a bleeding twitter account called ‘Muppetier’. :lol:
 

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Ahh now you’re resorting to calling me uneducated.

Always a great sign that you’re winning an argument when you have to resort to personal insults (which you have done multiple times but I’m not interested in responding to)
Well no, I wasn't. Just as a side note, critical thinking was an optional subject to take at school and if you aren't in the UK it might not have been offered.

Anyway, the hint of his credibility is in his internet name.
 

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I don’t understand why people get so invested in discrediting others.
We see it with Romano, who is clearly very well thought of in the industry and well connected. That’s why he (along side Ornstein) is the go to for breaking stories on TV around the world.
We’ve seen it with Ben Jacob’s who is a weird MF but that doesn’t affect his reporting. Now we’ve got it with Muppetiers.
Believe, don’t believe but why argue over it? It’s so lame! :lol:
 

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I can’t find an example because it would take me too long. But he has occasionally said something like “story dropping in X minutes regarding X” and then it has.

You said you proved muppetears to be a fraud a lot. How did you explain those posts?

@Berbaclass @BerbaDean
I said he rehashed publically available information whenever he tried to deliver something genuinely insightful. And I used a case in point with the debate at that time, by showing how Ben Jacob's reported exactly what he claimed to break, just a day earlier.
 

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I don’t understand why people get so invested in discrediting others.
We see it with Romano, who is clearly very well thought of in the industry and well connected. That’s why he (along side Ornstein) is the go to for breaking stories on TV around the world.
We’ve seen it with Ben Jacob’s who is a weird MF but that doesn’t affect his reporting. Now we’ve got it with Muppetiers.
Believe, don’t believe but why argue over it? It’s so lame! :lol:
Romano and Jacob's are actual journalists. Romano is often credited by his peers in fact with breaking news and there's countless exclusives from him.

The other one is a bloke who calls himself the muppetiers, living in the US claiming to know things about the club that he's had a ton of shit wrong on.
 

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Romano and Jacob's are actual journalists. Romano is often credited by his peers in fact with breaking news and there's countless exclusives from him.

The other one is a bloke who calls himself the muppetiers, living in the US claiming to know things about the club that he's had a ton of shit wrong on.
Like what? If there is so much it won't be hard to give specific examples.
 

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Like what? If there is so much it won't be hard to give specific examples.
Exclusives from Romano?
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710710682864263277?s=20

Here's one. There's probably a ton related to transfers (his bread and butter) if you trawl through.

Ornstein has also credited Romano on some pieces and even says in public they have healthy competition and Romano has a lot of respect (Ornstein said these words in an interview).

You won't see a journalist worth their salt acknowledging some man-child who calls himself Muppetiers, though.
 

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Exclusives from Romano?
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710710682864263277?s=20

Here's one. There's actually a ton related to transfers (his bread and butter) if you trawl through.

Ornstein has also credited Romano on some pieces and even says I'm public they have healthy competition and Romano has a lot of respect.

You won't see a journalist worth their salt acknowledging some man-child who calls himself Muppetiers, though.
No, I'm obviously asking you to give specific examples of the "ton" of stuff Muppetiers have gotten wrong.
 
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