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One of the only threads were everyone is in agreement at how poor a keeper Onana is. Hoping Berrada coming in relays this to the footballing hierarchy and sell him in the summer, he can’t be relied upon for another season.
De Gea might not be the answer but I believe our season would be substantially better than the current situation.
 
Carl said:
Hold on. What's he being blamed for yesterday? He flapped at the cross that got cleared off the line but he was fine other than that.

I think he's pretty shit btw. So no blind faith over here.
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Third goal. Took himself out of the game basically with his position. Of course he couldn't have made the save once he decided to leave that massive gap. He just hoped that Varane would deal with it all on his own.

For the Mainoo goal, their keeper does what Onana should've done. He didn't make it easy and forced Mainoo to do something spectacular at the far post.
 
How he can be our no 1 choice between the sticks is unbelievable. The man can't make a save. He's just so feckin iffy! 3 goals let in yesterday. His actions on 2 of them are certainly questionable. He needs replacing pronto! Had we lost the game yesterday it would have been down to him and Antony. Both terrible signings!
 
I'm really not a fan of Onana, can't really see how he's to blame for yesterday though.
 
fergiewherearethou said:
Don't know about top 4, but this guy is 2 levels bellow the worst version of De Gea.
He has a mistake ready for every situation.
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True. With DeGea, when he tried to play the ball with his feet it was heart in mouth time, but he was guaranteed to save any decent effort at goal -- plus save a bunch of shots that no human should be expected to save. With Onana, even a routine shot he can't hold onto, he gets down too slowly, his positioning is bad, and his much-vaunted passing ability is about 50% accuracy.

Onana is the Cameroonian Karius.
 
I don't see how he did a lot wrong for the goals yesterday, but he was lucky not to concede when he went for that cross and got nowhere.

It's clear to me that he is not good enough. Unfortunately it's been a theme under ETH to address the right weak spots in the team, but then getting the solution wrong. Replacing DDG was correct, but Onana doesn't really improve us. We desperately needed a left-footed right winger, but Antony is just crap. We needed a DM, and Casemiro has been great, but will need replacing again soon.
 
His handling is absolutely shocking, I’ve never seen worse from a keeper at this level. He had two routine saves in the first half where it wasn’t really close to going wrong but it was simply unfathomable that he wasn’t able to catch/hold the ball and instead had to reclaim it. A freekick and a deflected cross from the left.
 
Offside said:
People like to deny it but if De Gea was our keeper we’d be top 4. This guy is taking the piss.
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I still found it ridiculous we released De Gea. Not saying he didn't eventually need replacing but he wasn't our biggest problem and could have saved £50/60 million for another player in a more needed position
 
Wing Attack Plan R said:
True. With DeGea, when he tried to play the ball with his feet it was heart in mouth time, but he was guaranteed to save any decent effort at goal -- plus save a bunch of shots that no human should be expected to save. With Onana, even a routine shot he can't hold onto, he gets down too slowly, his positioning is bad, and his much-vaunted passing ability is about 50% accuracy.

Onana is the Cameroonian Karius.
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Back in 2018? Sure
 
LARulz said:
I still found it ridiculous we released De Gea. Not saying he didn't eventually need replacing but he wasn't our biggest problem and could have saved £50/60 million for another player in a more needed position
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He had to go, there's no two ways about it.
 
He wasn't this bad before he came to United. If anything, he was one of the big names amongst up-and-coming goalkeepers. Kahn and Neuer are both on the record saying he was their favorite and the one they predicted to become the next #1 keeper in the world, back when we signed him. This is not a case of us witlessly throwing money at an obviously shit player. This, like so many other times (e.g. Sancho, Antony), was us signing a player with massive potential and then he promptly forgot how to play football immediately upon joining United. There's something at the club that causes this to happen, and while I don't know what it is, I do know that it needs to be fixed instead of just wondering why every player we sign becomes shit the moment they arrive.
 
Jev said:
If we’d kept him we’d now have a better goalkeeper and 50 million more in the bank for his replacement.
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If he was kept, you wouldn't have a better keeper, just more of the same from the last 5 years on higher wages.

The problem wasn't letting him go, the problem was replacing him with someone who just hasn't been up to scratch yet. I'd still give Onana a bit more time to settle, there's no denying he's been poor for quite a few goals, his command of his area has been poor. But he's been good on the ball and that is the main reason he was brought in. The play and the ball out for the second goal last night was something we need to see more of from him. That building from back to front is the quality you need from a keeper on the ball at the top.

However his actual goalkeeping skill, leaves a lot to be desired. That's where he'll be judged most harshly.
 
Oranges038 said:
If he was kept, you wouldn't have a better keeper, just more of the same from the last 5 years on higher wages.

The problem wasn't letting him go, the problem was replacing him with someone who just hasn't been up to scratch yet. I'd still give Onana a bit more time to settle, there's no denying he's been poor for quite a few goals, his command of his area has been poor. But he's been good on the ball and that is the main reason he was brought in. The play and the ball out for the second goal last night was something we need to see more of from him. That building from back to front is the quality you need from a keeper on the ball at the top.

However his actual goalkeeping skill, leaves a lot to be desired. That's where he'll be judged most harshly.
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No, we’d have a better keeper. DDG from last season is better than Onana of this season, surely noone disagrees with that anymore?

I don’t get the argument that we were right to replace DDG and just wrong in who we replaced him with. You replace a player when you can get someone better in. Replacing DDG with a worse keeper is the problem, you can’t separate the two.
 
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Oranges038 said:
If he was kept, you wouldn't have a better keeper, just more of the same from the last 5 years on higher wages.

The problem wasn't letting him go, the problem was replacing him with someone who just hasn't been up to scratch yet. I'd still give Onana a bit more time to settle, there's no denying he's been poor for quite a few goals, his command of his area has been poor. But he's been good on the ball and that is the main reason he was brought in. The play and the ball out for the second goal last night was something we need to see more of from him. That building from back to front is the quality you need from a keeper on the ball at the top.

However his actual goalkeeping skill, leaves a lot to be desired. That's where he'll be judged most harshly.
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Like saying Hojlund was actually brought in for his defensive capabilities and goals are a bonus.
 
Onana was definitely at fault when he came out for that cross and had to be saved by Martinez on the line.

On the third goal it certainly didn't look good, but at the same time when the attacker cut in I certainly expected a finish to the far post rather than near post. Onana would have been in a good position for that, and I guess he was trusting Varane to cover the near post shot. However, taking both options into consideration he was still too far over. Favouring the far post is one thing, but he simply left too much space.
 
Jev said:
No, we’d have a better keeper. DDG from last seasonis better than Onana of this season, surely noone disagrees with that anymore?

I don’t get the argument that we were right to replace DDG and just wrong in who we replaced him with. You replace a player when you can get someone better in. Replacing DDG with a worse keeper is the problem, you can’t separate the two.
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You can. DDG needed to go, 5 years of underperformance and the highest paid keeper in the world. Absolutely ridiculous, because even with a drop in wages he would still have been one of the highest paid keepers in the world. Without the performance levels to back that up.
It would just have been rewarding mediocrity again.

And yes the bigger problem is the with the decision on who to replace him with. ETH has gone for a keeper who he knows suits his style, it's the same as when Pep went for Bravo, it's matching the keeper to the style you want to implement. He dropped City's number one for years to bring in a keeper to change the teams way of playing and bringing the ball out from the back. Bravo was a disaster, so he went for Ederson. Same style that suited the team, but just a better keeper.

The real bone of contention is his price, coupled with his performance levels. They don't match up, for 50m you expect a player to be a standout performer, he hasn't been that yet. And because of that price it's going to be a lot harder to replace him if he doesn't buck up.
 
Ah, I see the DDG revisionism is in full flow. The vast majority of this forum were in agreement in the summer that he had to go. The issue wasn’t letting DDG go, its who we replaced him with.
 
Yes of course it was moronic to replace De Gea with an inferior keeper, but for the moment let’s focus on the three goals Onana conceded.

Nothing could be done about the pk.
The second goal could have been handled better but fortune played a large role.
You always hate to see a keeper freeze like a deer in the headlights but in truth he was never going to save the shot even if he dove for it.

Considering the hell Onana has just been through I actually thought he handled himself alright, but he’s still far from the keeper we thought we were getting last summer.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
Our biggest problem in the league has been lack of goals. De Gea or not we'd still be below 4th
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As it was last year also, BUT some on here and obviously the club thought that a new GK was a priority and bought a worse GK for 50m. There are 2 parts of the problem IMO. I think even if we got it spot on and bought a top GK, we'd still have a problem scoring goals, we didn't buy a good enough GK, and we obviously work on a budget. So all these decision makers ETH included served a total feck up and should be sacked on the spot.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Ah, I see the DDG revisionism is in full flow. The vast majority of this forum were in agreement in the summer that he had to go. The issue wasn’t letting DDG go, its who we replaced him with.
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I don't think it was the case. Many including me, realized that we had bigger problems than the GK, as it turned out the truth. We had much more pressing issues, than DDG last year, like ST, CDM, CM, and RM. What did we solve out of that list? Mainoo obviously is an absolute plus, but christ everything else is a total disaster.
 
The good - in general his handling was pretty decent? Claimed a few balls out of the air and dealt the stuff that was straight at him with minimal fuss. Obviously not at fault for conceding a penalty in any way.

The fine - The second goal, a different keeper comes out and is right on top of the player striking, or is doing a Big Pete star jump... but even then it probably goes in, it's generally down to a bit of luck if you save those... so yeah could possibly have made himself bigger but not an error or at fault or anything

The bad - Did one of his trademark "get nowhere near a cross" flaps that he was lucky to get away with (hope he gave Martinez a big thank you)... and his positioning for the third goal is an absolute joke. Might as well have gone on stood on his far post with the size of gap he left. He seems to take these weird gambles at times (I'm thinking Galtasary's first Free Kick too) and when they don't pay off it just looks bad.
 
Carl said:
Hold on. What's he being blamed for yesterday? He flapped at the cross that got cleared off the line but he was fine other than that.

I think he's pretty shit btw. So no blind faith over here.
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Exactly , you are well entitled to call him shit without creating an agenda. He wasn’t at fault for any of the goals yesterday . I personally think he’ll come good .
 
He’ll probably get another season considering his pedigree until he arrived here and how much they’ve invested into him but if he keeps stuttering around December, he’ll be binned.
 
Carl said:
Varane was shocking on the 3rd goal. He actually showed the left footer onto his left foot. He's done, and I'd rather Maguire or Evans start ahead of him.
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He didn't get close enough either.
I played as a defender. You have to close them down, show them on to their weaker foot or show them wide.
We're continuously linked with defenders so I think Varane's gone anyway.
 
Red00012 said:
Exactly , you are well entitled to call him shit without creating an agenda. He wasn’t at fault for any of the goals yesterday . I personally think he’ll come good .
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Not directly at fault, but in what world is this good positioning?!

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