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Better wingers. Our wide goalscorers are pretty poor.
I agree. Look at where Chelsea are now? Yes it will take some time for things to gel and click but I think we can all agree the squad needs gutting and with a lot of the squads contracts in selling territory (ie. Only 0-2 years left) we should act aggressively this summer IMO.I think that overall this might sound crazy but we need to go the Chelsea way with transfer policies in a way. Of course I don’t mean pay crazy money but United have to accept that this rebuild will take a long time and won’t be easy. Stop signing old players on big contracts would be the first idea. The garbage idea of experience needs to be put away. Accept that we would be middling for a while but you need to buy players who under the right manager will peak in 2-3 years time
So much needed but I don’t see why 7 or 8 can’t be done this summer.3 x Cb’s
1 x RB
1 x LB
1 x DM
3 x CM
1 x RW
1 x ST
1 x LW
Since there is no way we could bring in people for all these positions in 1 window, order of importance and who is available comes in to play.
For me we need at least 2 Cb’s this window and 3 midfielders, then the back up striker. We are going to have to get creative.
Issue is there are players available this summer that would make sense but are in different positions. We need a new RW and Olise fits that bill at a decent price. Just seems like there are other more important positions even though it in itself is not in a great position.
Frimpong if he wanted to move is available for 42mil. He’d add a lot to us at RB, but again we could probably lumber through with what we have.
Striker, I know many would like a more seasoned striker but if Sesko has a buyout of 42 then again probably a good bit of buisness to do.
But central defence and midfield is just a shambles and has been for a while. We desperately need first team quality and bench options in there.
Its just an absolute mess.
This was back in 2018.A plan
Positions | Names | Fees | Wages (per week) |
Starting RCB | Todibo | £40m | £100k |
Backup RCB | Tosin | £0 | £75k |
Squad depth LCB | Lucumi | £20m | £85k |
Starting LB | Gutierrez | £30m | £100k |
Starting DM to replace Casemiro | Rabiot | £0 | £200k |
Mainoo’s backup or Eriksen’s replacement | Thuram | £25m | £75k |
Starting RW | Olise | £60m | £120k |
Striker who can hold the ball | Dovbyk | £25m release clause | £100k |
Total: | £200m | 855k pw |
We can’t take any more chances on a striker we need a PL proven goal scorer who can hold the ball up and run in behind, If we are truly a big club then we make this a priority and look at Watkins, Isak, Toney and Solanki.
Positions Names Fees Wages (per week) Starting RCB Todibo £40m £100k Backup RCB Tosin £0 £75k Squad depth LCB Lucumi £20m £85k Starting LB Gutierrez £30m £100k Starting DM to replace Casemiro Rabiot £0 £200k Mainoo’s backup or Eriksen’s replacement Thuram £25m £75k Starting RW Olise £60m £120k Striker who can hold the ball Dovbyk £25m release clause £100k
Total: £200m 855k pw
Onana
Dalot Todibo Martinez Gutierrez
Mainoo Rabiot Bruno
Olise Dovbyk Rashford/Garnacho
Onana
Lindelof Tosin Lucumi Shaw
Mount McTominay Thuram
Amad/Antony Hojlund Rashford/Garnacho
I think we can postpone the bolded, not ideal but we can make do with what we have especially if we can not shift Greenwood and Sancho for good money. If we can get 60m - 80m for the pair the by all means we can sign a RW. I just think that our central defense, defensive midfield and LB are crucial to the stability of the team and should be given top priority.Too much:
Manager
LB
2 CBs
RB
DM
CM
RW
Sub striker
And just as important is shifting the dross that has stunk up the club for far too long:
Rashford
McTominay
Maguire
Lindelof
AWB
Antony
Casemiro
Varane
Wan Bissaka
Sancho
Greenwood
Agreed. I am not convinced Höjlund is ready to lead the line next season so we might need a rather expensive starting CF.I think we can postpone the bolded, not ideal but we can make do with what we have especially if we can not shift Greenwood and Sancho for good money. If we can get 60m - 80m for the pair the by all means we can sign a RW. I just think that our central defense, defensive midfield and LB are crucial to the stability of the team and should be given top priority.
We should also look to utilise the free agent market, if we can get Rabiot, Tosin and Barkely for free then it would be such a boon to our rebuild as it means we could then go all in for a striker or for Jao Neves.
While I'm not against using the free transfer market, 2 of those players aren't good enough for Utd imo and Rabiot is too old and would demand extortionate wages. We shouldn't be signing players just because they're free. They need to be good enough and the right profile too.I think we can postpone the bolded, not ideal but we can make do with what we have especially if we can not shift Greenwood and Sancho for good money. If we can get 60m - 80m for the pair the by all means we can sign a RW. I just think that our central defense, defensive midfield and LB are crucial to the stability of the team and should be given top priority.
We should also look to utilise the free agent market, if we can get Rabiot, Tosin and Barkely for free then it would be such a boon to our rebuild as it means we could then go all in for a striker or for Jao Neves.
Always liked Silva, find it odd that nobody has ever taken a chance on him yet from Benfica.Admitedly short term but just noticed Rafa Silva is available on a free in the summer. He's great! We should get him for squad depth if we're letting go of Sancho and Greenwood, because trust me Olise will be injured A LOT
We need that magical centre mid who complements Mainoo and Bruno.I think it's actually easier to say what we don't need. I'd say we don't need starting RB as've got Dalot. Attacking midfielder as Bruno is most probably staying. Everything else is uncertain. Rashford has been really poor, Hojlund is not starting ST, Casemiro can't continue, Shaw is injury prone, same for Varane and Martinez. Onana looking at season as a whole has earned to keep his spot but who knows if we'll be saying the same during next season.
Neither can be relied upon.We need that magical centre mid who complements Mainoo and Bruno.
We either need to be certain Shaw & Malachia might play more than 25 games between them, or buy a starter there.
Obviously a centre back, obviously some forwards.
Something off about Toney.....do we think he would actually help Rasmus?So much needed but I don’t see why 7 or 8 can’t be done this summer.
In defence, I think CBs are our biggest issue tactically and in terms of fitness - so I think getting 3 CBs in with at least one being comfortable at RB (Geertruida). That being said if Frimpong is interested then you’d have to go get him but I struggle to see it happening. LB is an interesting one, I don’t see us selling Shaw or getting the kind of offer we would want and I don’t see any club touching Malacia. Probs best hoping Malacia is more available next year and give Amass some more opportunities.
Out: Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, AWB, Alvaro (50m)
In: Todibo, Geertruida, Tosin/Kelly (70m)
In midfield, Casemiro appears to be done, Amrabat was never good enough and McTominay is a hindrance to how any top team should want to play. A proper ball winner to give us some grit in midfield like Ugarte or Hjulmand is the most important signing here. Then IMO we have the option getting a 6/8 like Thuram along with a young 8/10 prospect like Doue, or going for O’Riley at Celtic as more of straight 8 and a young 6/DLP like Zambrano. Both options give us a nicely balanced set of midfielders.
Out: Casemiro, Amrabat, McTominay, Hannibal, Donny, Eriksen (80m)
In: Ugarte/Hjulmand, O’Riley/Thuram, Doue/Zambrano (105m)
Forward line is pretty straight forward. 100% need another CF and Toney makes a lot of sense as someone who’s experienced in the league and can rotate with Hojlund. I expect one of Antony or Amad to leave, but if we can’t shift Antony we can maybe use Amad in the Olise conversations. The other ours are pretty self explanatory.
Out: Pellistri, Martial, Antony/Amad, Sancho, Greenwood (100m)
In: Olise, Toney (110m)
This would give us a 24 man squad of something like…
Onana, Bayindir, Harrison
Dalot, Geertruida, Todibo, Kelly, Martinez, Kambwala/Evans, Shaw, Malacia, Amass
Mainoo, Hjulmand, Thuram, Doue, Mount, Bruno (+ youth in emergencies)
Rashford, Garnacho, Olise, Antony, Hojlund, Toney (+ youth in emergencies)
I’d be pretty happy and confident going into the season with that group of players. I also think despite the number of new faces, there’s a good enough balance of prem experience given 3 of the 8 signings are from Prem sides and the new faces this year have a season under their belt.
For a £55m net spend who says no?
It’s almost like our DNA to spend £40m or £50m on 29 years old like Matic or Casemiro. I hope we don’t spend such money on him though.If we have a budget of £150m after sales, I’d go for
Todibo - 35m
Bremer - 40m
Kerkez - 10-15m
Palhinha - 40-50m
Guirassy - 15m
I would say that Rabiot is more of an upgrade on McTominay than a Casemiro replacement
Positions Names Fees Wages (per week) Starting RCB Todibo £40m £100k Backup RCB Tosin £0 £75k Squad depth LCB Lucumi £20m £85k Starting LB Gutierrez £30m £100k Starting DM to replace Casemiro Rabiot £0 £200k Mainoo’s backup or Eriksen’s replacement Thuram £25m £75k Starting RW Olise £60m £120k Striker who can hold the ball Dovbyk £25m release clause £100k
Total: £200m 855k pw
Onana
Dalot Todibo Martinez Gutierrez
Mainoo Rabiot Bruno
Olise Dovbyk Rashford/Garnacho
Onana
Lindelof Tosin Lucumi Shaw
Mount McTominay Thuram
Amad/Antony Hojlund Rashford/Garnacho