Alejandro Garnacho image 17

Alejandro Garnacho Argentina flag

2024-25 Performances


View full 2024-25 profile

5.5 Season Average Rating
Appearances
58
Goals
11
Assists
10
Yellow cards
5
He just doesn’t have it. Same issue as Rashford, not enough technical skill or football IQ. Get rid
Mate as much as someone might dislike Rashford, he is in a different stratosphere compared to Garnacho.

I was saying the other day to my wife that I used to complain about Rashford and Martial that they are not the same level as Rooney or Ronaldo. And now it's actually clear that the likes of Garnacho and Hojlund are nowhere near even Rashford and Martial. How have we spent so much money on forwards and gotten worse every year is something remarkable.
 
His pace is the only thing you miss if you relegate him to the bench, and we do seriously lack some pace. It's the one thing that's keeping him in the team.

I feel Amorim needs to get Mainoo and Mount fit (hopefully Amad back too) and Garnacho can be more of an impact sub.
 
People need to be patient with him. I still remember how shit and frustrating Ronaldo was originally for a few years. But, just after that summer and World Cup, all pieces suddenly came together for him to produce end product.
 
People need to be patient with him. I still remember how shit and frustrating Ronaldo was originally for a few years. But, just after that summer and World Cup, all pieces suddenly came together for him to produce end product.
He looked a player long before that
 
His pace is the only thing you miss if you relegate him to the bench, and we do seriously lack some pace. It's the one thing that's keeping him in the team.

I feel Amorim needs to get Mainoo and Mount fit (hopefully Amad back too) and Garnacho can be more of an impact sub.
It’s why I don’t understand the relative refusal to give any of the academy kids/attackers a chance. Garnacho has dropped about a months worth of 0/10’s at this point, it’s not like a debut kid will do any worse
 
It’s why I don’t understand the relative refusal to give any of the academy kids/attackers a chance. Garnacho has dropped about a months worth of 0/10’s at this point, it’s not like a debut kid will do any worse
Agreed. He's offering so little at the minute, throwing a Moorhouse or Fletcher in there surely couldn't do any harm.
 
At bare minimum I’m very confident they’d make better decisions
Yep. Just don't run directly into defenders, try and move the ball quickly and forward if possible, and work your socks off. Not rocket science when standards are this low.

I'm surprised Amorim hasn't thrown more of them in, even for small cameos. Mount looked bright coming off the bench today though so that's a positive.
 
Side note: why are people so fecking convinced that decision making is some long drawn out process of development that a player who’s absolutely shit at it gets more than 3 seasons of excuses (with absolutely 0 progress by the way) just because he’s young? I see youth debutants all the time come in and instantly know what to do in situations. Footballing IQ isn’t some late developing trait, it’s pretty easy to see early on if players think well in the heat of the moment. Mainoo on his debut last season was so clearly a step ahead of his garbage teammates that they made him look like he was straight out of La Masia.

If it’s a Rashford level explosive forward who’s skinning players for fun and is just a little shoot happy, then fair enough I understood waiting on the switch to flip. But my god some of these lot defending Garnacho and saying he just needs time as I watch Doue and Yamal yesterday so clearly dominate elite opposition and see the game clearly in how to operate within the team and it’s night and day.
 
With young Rashford you knew in the big games were opposition play a high line he had the speed, timing and finish to produce match winning displays. He didn't have the qualities to perform at that level in games were spaces were tighter but there was something to work with
With young Martial he could do it against any opponent if he was in the mood, he had genuine quality.
With Garnacho the little he shows simply isn't enough.
Compared to Doue, Yamal, Endrick, Inaki Williams. he's not close to good enough. Those are the sort of talent United should be developing. Yoro to me is the standard, Mainoo has the technical qualities, I don't know what Garnacho does well.
 
He has to start as he’s the only 10 we’ve got with the ability to run in behind and stretch teams.

Hes been rubbish for a while now. Disappointing how it’s turning out for him.
 
People need to be patient with him. I still remember how shit and frustrating Ronaldo was originally for a few years. But, just after that summer and World Cup, all pieces suddenly came together for him to produce end product.

Ronaldo had infinitely more natural talent and is the most self improvement driven footballer to ever live.

Ronaldo could always beat men for fun, had huge pace and showed far more frequent moments of natural footballing ability.

Full backs will look forward to playing against Garnacho. It's an incredibly simple job.
 
Weirdly the pass that pissed me off was the one he didn't make first time to Dorgu on the overlap and just decided to dribble into the space Dorgu was already in. He can't be 10 in this system, because he has feck all awareness of what's around him.
Yep, he's got a one track mind when he gets the ball deep and that's to carry it, regardless of the situation around him.Just a poor decision maker. I don't know how much of that iq improves with age.
 
He's just not that good.

People comparing him to Rashford in his younger days are insulting Rashford. He was a much better player.
 
He has to start as he’s the only 10 we’ve got with the ability to run in behind and stretch teams.

Hes been rubbish for a while now. Disappointing how it’s turning out for him.

He doesn't do either of those things well though. We'd be much better off without him starting, hopefully Mount can stay fit for a while.
 
I could not believe my eyes when this happened:
In his defence right before he passed the ball Bruno suddenly stopped his run and changed his direction. I can understand that Garnacho didn't see that coming. Furthermore Garnacho couldn't have passed the ball as Bruno wanted, because it would have been blocked by the arriving defender.
 
He just isnt a threat. Its a no from me, he's just as frustrating to watch as the other mediocre attackers. I don't get any excitement from watching these guys. Diallo will bench him
 
He has plenty of talents. This season it seems a regression for him. But anyone has the similar experience in life knows that this tough period could be the best to build up the foundation and shape the right mindset and character. Just keep trying and working hard, eventually all separated pieces will come together to really crack it.
I would put aside the frustration when watching him making wrong decisions again and again. I would like to see which level he can reach rather than writing him off now. He is only 21, no?
 
His pace is the only thing you miss if you relegate him to the bench, and we do seriously lack some pace. It's the one thing that's keeping him in the team.

I feel Amorim needs to get Mainoo and Mount fit (hopefully Amad back too) and Garnacho can be more of an impact sub.
I genuinely don't think he is that quick either. On the occasion he gets in behind the defence he always gets caught up.
 
People need to be patient with him. I still remember how shit and frustrating Ronaldo was originally for a few years. But, just after that summer and World Cup, all pieces suddenly came together for him to produce end product.
It’s possible that Ronaldo pre that World Cup was already better than Garnacho will ever be
 
Last edited:
He's in a real slump and the moment where he misplaced the pass to Bruno, which was the wrong option anyway, was a real low point. I do think we saw last year that he can be very good as a player on the right whose role is relatively simple, to run directly and either shoot or cut the ball across for others. He's not particularly outstanding technically and I don't think he's ever going to be a great decision maker, he certainly isn't right now, so I'm not sure how he's ever going to be particularly useful in an Amorim system. I just don't think apart from in random moments that we're ever going to play to Garnacho's strengths.
 
He's infuriating. Dreadful decision making and still very selfish in his play. The only reason he hasn't been dropped is because he's our only attacker with pace.
 
I could not believe my eyes when this happened:



What's crazy is, that was not his worst play of the half.
That is dreadful. But. On this replay I'm now wondering what the hell Bruno is doing checking back on his run to move backwards? No wonder he was on the stretch to receive the pass.

I can understand he slows down to create space between him and the defender but to start moving back towards his own goal is very odd.
 
That is dreadful. But. On this replay I'm now wondering what the hell Bruno is doing checking back on his run to move backwards? No wonder he was on the stretch to receive the pass.
Yeah that was odd. Credit to Zirkzee though. He made the perfect to make sure Garnacho had two options.
 
That is dreadful. But. On this replay I'm now wondering what the hell Bruno is doing checking back on his run to move backwards? No wonder he was on the stretch to receive the pass.

I can understand he slows down to create space between him and the defender but to start moving back towards his own goal is very odd.
Trying to create space for himself I think. Just not on each others wavelength.
 
He’s never been this bad. I haven’t been his biggest fan but since Amorim has joined, Garnacho has been terrible.

What we’ve watched in the last months has been as bad as the worst run of games Antony had.

Garnacho even if he was having a poor game always had the possibility of popping up with a goal or assist under ETH. I have no clue what has happened to him.
 
It’s possible that Ronaldo pre that World Cup was already better than Garnacho will ever be
Comparing them, at least you could point to the physical differences without much argument - Ronaldo was genuinely very fast, tall and had a good leap for aerial duels, which are 3 things Garnacho will never have. And certainly had to be considered a more threatening dribbler despite being frustrating.


I do think Garnacho has decent goalscoring potential to be fair to him, given he actually gets himself on the end of chances, he could have easily scored from being on the end of crosses against City and Lyon, but fluffed them both. He's fluffed some 1v1s against the keeper this season. At some point his finishing on easier chances may come together and instead of hitting 10 goals all comps, he hits 20+. However it's unlikely his dribbling, passing, shooting and decision making will ever be up to much, and he lacks genuinely elite physical attributes to make up for deficiencies in his talent.
 
With Mainoo and Mount now fit, Garnacho should revert back to being an impact sub, coming on against tired legs in the last 10-15 minutes of games
 
I have no clue what has happened to him.

He’s a 20 year old kid, playing in a completely new system, in a new position, in which he’s never played before, while being asked to be one of only two creative outlets in the whole team. All the while getting dogs abuse from the fans for trying to do so.

He’s a winger, he’s always been a winger. And a pretty traditional one at that. Very Ronaldo-esq. And now he’s having to play as a floating #10 and do things that he’s never had to do before.

The fact that we’ve also binned off our 3 senior wingers this season and brought in no replacements meaning he has to pretty much play regardless and has no shelter from poor performances doesn’t help either.

And for it’s worth, I’m not saying he doesn’t have issues, he does. Mainly his decision making. But those are things that can be learnt and improved in time. But the current set up, from squad depth to tactics is not helping him at all.
 
He’s a 20 year old kid, playing in a completely new system, in a new position, in which he’s never played before, while being asked to be one of only two creative outlets in the whole team. All the while getting dogs abuse from the fans for trying to do so.

He’s a winger, he’s always been a winger. And a pretty traditional one at that. Very Ronaldo-esq. And now he’s having to play as a floating #10 and do things that he’s never had to do before.

The fact that we’ve also binned off our 3 senior wingers this season and brought in no replacements meaning he has to pretty much play regardless and has no shelter from poor performances doesn’t help either.

And for it’s worth, I’m not saying he doesn’t have issues, he does. Mainly his decision making. But those are things that can be learnt and improved in time. But the current set up, from squad depth to tactics is not helping him at all.
The sheltering our fans do for players just because they are from the academy is insane.

We’ve literally tinkered the system to allow Garnacho far more room to play wider and in space, compared to early days when Amorim first came in. He’s “getting dogs abuse” because he’s dropping genuine 3/10’s over and over while doing a Sunday league CR7 impression. In fact the team around him is actually playing far better in the last month or so and much of our struggle in matches is down to him and the attack in general cocking up every good passage of play we manage.

He’s a senior player on his third season with huge amount of experience, and so far all we’ve seen in terms of development is that he’s better cardio wise, while everything else about his game has taken a step back and he still fluffs the same opportunities he did as a raw 18 year old coming off the bench.

There’s no need to keep coddling him as some hatchling just getting a taste of senior football at this level. Otherwise you just end up repeating his age and assuming further development will come until he’s 24 and it’s finally apparent he’s actually just a bit shit as a player, instead of the mega talent too many seem to have labeled him as. Blaming fans for being pissed off with a player who’s been playing terribly game after game is just misguided.
 
The sheltering our fans do for players just because they are from the academy is insane.

We’ve literally tinkered the system to allow Garnacho far more room to play wider and in space, compared to early days when Amorim first came in. He’s “getting dogs abuse” because he’s dropping genuine 3/10’s over and over while doing a Sunday league CR7 impression. In fact the team around him is actually playing far better in the last month or so and much of our struggle in matches is down to him and the attack in general cocking up every good passage of play we manage.

He’s a senior player on his third season with huge amount of experience, and so far all we’ve seen in terms of development is that he’s better cardio wise, while everything else about his game has taken a step back and he still fluffs the same opportunities he did as a raw 18 year old coming off the bench.

There’s no need to keep coddling him as some hatchling just getting a taste of senior football at this level. Otherwise you just end up repeating his age and assuming further development will come until he’s 24 and it’s finally apparent he’s actually just a bit shit as a player, instead of the mega talent too many seem to have labeled him as. Blaming fans for being pissed off with a player who’s been playing terribly game after game is just misguided.
Agree completely.

There's no reason why us using a new system would have him performing in the bottom few % of almost every creative metric. But fans who make these arguments just eye test and vibe everything which means in their world everything is subjective and they can never be wrong.

They said the same thing about Lingard and Adnan, It'll never stop.

At this point Garnachos performances are just so bad that it's making me question Amorim more than anything. If he genuinely thinks he's even close to the level we need then we're in huge trouble.
 
People need to be patient with him. I still remember how shit and frustrating Ronaldo was originally for a few years. But, just after that summer and World Cup, all pieces suddenly came together for him to produce end product.
I’m all for patience as long as there’s a road map and genuine belief in huge potential. With Garnacho, I don’t think his potential is that big - he’ll be a good ish player - and he doesn’t suit our system either. Feels like a decent time to sell. Would be fine with him staying too as long if were confident he can learn to pass the ball and stop making bad decisions.

Ronaldo was an anomaly and was incredibly talented despite the frustration. He should be used as a reference point to expect all decent young players to eventually turn into top class ones once it clicks.