Rasmus Hojlund - Linked to Inter on loan

gaffs said:
Hojlunds confidence looked shot last year. It got worse and worse for him as the season went on. I do think he has the attributes to be able to do well as a back up forward over the next few years.

Zirkzee, I don’t think will ever have ability to lead a line like PL number 9s do.
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gaffs said:
Possible. But I’m not aware of Amorim ever using a false 9 at Sporting. He wants someone to lead the line and be able to hold the ball up. Admittedly, they ask skills that Hojlund needs work on, but he does have the physical attributes to be able to learn. Zirkzee never will.
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I thought that before his injury Zirkzee did pretty well, but that was mainly when he played as a 10 right? His link up play and hold up play were decent though that's why I thought he could do better with goal scoring 10s. It's a different role, more similar to Firmino who had set up Salah nd Mane nicely. I could see him do that well but I agree that's not the typical striker in Amorim's system. As a backup option, why not? Him and Chido should share their playing times.
 
He commented on the ongoing rumours after Denmark's win last night.

Basically saying that he is fully dedicated to United, and that he expect to play here after the summer break. Again and again he underlines that he has a contract until 2030 at United, and that's his focus.

Also said that he hasn't noticed the rumours sending him to Inter, because he doesn't read the rumours. Yeah right.

Sounds like a player that doesn't want to leave. And that the club hasn’t convinced him to yet either.
 
Yeah good for him if he doesn't want to leave. But regardless needs to go. We need to bring in a starting CF and hojlund getting the random 10 games or so all season isn't going to do him any good
 
Not sure of the source but this from Scholesy: "I'd keep Hojlund. I know he's not been great, but he's a 22-year-old kid who has been asked to play centre-forward for Manchester United on his own for the last two years. He's had to play every week. He's the only one there, and he's a 22-year-old kid. With the way they play, Man United should have at least three top centre-forwards, and l'd bring him into that group."
 
MiracleInMadrid said:
He commented on the ongoing rumours after Denmark's win last night.

Basically saying that he is fully dedicated to United, and that he expect to play here after the summer break. Again and again he underlines that he has a contract until 2030 at United, and that's his focus.

Also said that he hasn't noticed the rumours sending him to Inter, because he doesn't read the rumours. Yeah right.

Sounds like a player that doesn't want to leave. And that the club hasn’t convinced him to yet either.
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Of course he doesn't want to leave, most shit players we want to get rid of don't want to leave. That's been a constant issue for us for years
 
MiracleInMadrid said:
He commented on the ongoing rumours after Denmark's win last night.

Basically saying that he is fully dedicated to United, and that he expect to play here after the summer break. Again and again he underlines that he has a contract until 2030 at United, and that's his focus.

Also said that he hasn't noticed the rumours sending him to Inter, because he doesn't read the rumours. Yeah right.

Sounds like a player that doesn't want to leave. And that the club hasn’t convinced him to yet either.
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The guy doesn't know how to read or count either, he signed a 5-year contract in 2023.
 
He obviously wants to stay. I just think it says something about how far from a move he must be at this stage. Doesn't sound like he's been asked by the club to find a new club yet. If he knew that the club wanted him gone, it would be wise for him to at least acknowledge the interest from a potential new club.
 
Even though he was beyond shit last season, generationally shit in fact, I’m comfortable with him remaining as back up to a top class striker.

I think with all the pressure removed and time to find his feet he can be an adequate deputy.

If him staying comes at the expense of us making crucial signings however then he can go - I just don’t think at this stage anyone will stump up the cash.
 
MiracleInMadrid said:
He obviously wants to stay. I just think it says something about how far from a move he must be at this stage. Doesn't sound like he's been asked by the club to find a new club yet. If he knew that the club wanted him gone, it would be wise for him to at least acknowledge the interest from a potential new club.
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I don’t think we’ll ask him to find a new club. He’s not someone we’ll try and push out the door like we are with Sancho, Garnacho and Rashford. Them 3 players I mentioned have attitude issues and you don’t want them in the dressing room. Hojlunds problem is different, he’s just not good enough and lacks confidence but if he can learn of a better ST next season then it might do him the world of good
 
DJ_21 said:
I don’t think we’ll ask him to find a new club. He’s not someone we’ll try and push out the door like we are with Sancho, Garnacho and Rashford. Them 3 players I mentioned have attitude issues and you don’t want them in the dressing room. Hojlunds problem is different, he’s just not good enough and lacks confidence but if he can learn of a better ST next season then it might do him the world of good
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Its pretty important to get rid of players who are nowhere near good enough for the mentality of the squad though. Training quality and confidence in your teammates is absolutely key. Nobody in the squad believes in Hojlund anymore clearly as they hesitate passing to him now. He simply can't be a Manchester United player next season. Though he'll probably leave on loan.
 
gaffs said:
Hojlunds confidence looked shot last year. It got worse and worse for him as the season went on. I do think he has the attributes to be able to do well as a back up forward over the next few years.

Zirkzee, I don’t think will ever have ability to lead a line like PL number 9s do.
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Zirkzee was definitely an odd signing. Doesn't seem to fit a standard position and doesn't have speed or mobility. Will never know what they were thinking, however much he's improved from the original poor show.

Hojlund sort of made sense, but not at price and not as the starting striker.
 
Sandikan said:
Zirkzee was definitely an odd signing. Doesn't seem to fit a standard position and doesn't have speed or mobility. Will never know what they were thinking, however much he's improved from the original poor show.

Hojlund sort of made sense, but not at price and not as the starting striker.
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Dutch passport. Enough for ETH
 
Sandikan said:
Zirkzee was definitely an odd signing. Doesn't seem to fit a standard position and doesn't have speed or mobility. Will never know what they were thinking, however much he's improved from the original poor show.

Hojlund sort of made sense, but not at price and not as the starting striker.
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I think the thought process with Zirkzee was that he was almost a false 9 with Rashford running beyond him.

I think the result they were looking for was Rashford back in the goals again with Zirkzee creating space for him.

Which at times did work in a way (Everton game at home I think is the best example of it working).
 
JPRouve said:
It is his call unless United intend to not respect the contract they signed, decide to not register or play him.
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Or they sign a top striker and let him know he's far down the pecking order. Then, ultimately his decision might change. Tbh that's probably what's going to happen.
 
Didn't Ratcliffe say they will evaluate their players after two years? Hojlund will get told to feck of if those rumors about us selling him are true. He should do it for his own sake.
 
aeh1991 said:
Didn't Ratcliffe say they will evaluate their players after two years? Hojlund will get told to feck of if those rumors about us selling him are true. He should do it for his own sake.
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There are probably three ways this could go imo.

1. The club want to get rid of Hojlund because they are upgrading to a better #9 and need to raise money by selling Hojlund (however little that might be).

2. The club buy a new #9 but sell any combination of Rashford, Sancho, or Antony to raise funds, and make a bet that last year's Hojlund was an anomaly that can be corrected without the pressure of being a starter.

3. We buy a new #9 and still replace Hojlund, less for the money but more because we've identified a new promising backup striker elsewhere.
 
BetRed said:
Or they sign a top striker and let him know he's far down the pecking order. Then, ultimately his decision might change. Tbh that's probably what's going to happen.
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Which would be part of "his call"...
 
Raoul said:
There are probably three ways this could go imo.

1. The club want to get rid of Hojlund because they are upgrading to a better #9 and need to raise money by selling Hojlund (however little that might be).

2. The club buy a new #9 but sell any combination of Rashford, Sancho, or Antony to raise funds, and make a bet that last year's Hojlund was an anomaly that can be corrected without the pressure of being a starter.

3. We buy a new #9 and still replace Hojlund, less for the money but more because we've identified a new promising backup striker elsewhere.
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Or just go with Zirkzee and Chido
 
Why try and make a career for yourself elsewhere when you can sit on a ludicrous contract given to you for the next 5 years.

Who the feck offered a 7 year contact?
 
sugar_kane said:
Even though he was beyond shit last season, generationally shit in fact, I’m comfortable with him remaining as back up to a top class striker.

I think with all the pressure removed and time to find his feet he can be an adequate deputy.

If him staying comes at the expense of us making crucial signings however then he can go - I just don’t think at this stage anyone will stump up the cash.
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No he needs a loan at least. He is a negative on the pitch, so would be useless off the bench too. We need to send him to a team with less scrutiny and pressure and let him develop there for a season or two. He may be decent in the future but he currently offers absolutely nothing and a change of scenery would help him to develop.
 
We really should sell him, one of the worst strikers we had, thinks he's world class after scoring a goal, we have no presence up front whenever he plays.. time to go we cant win the league with this level of players, some people also want him as backup, really, 4 goals last season, what back up?
 
Big Ben Foster said:
Yes, it's his call, but we can always push harder to persuade him to leave if he's not in our plans. We never really do that though.
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I already mentioned ways to influence his decision in my initial point but it's still his call.
 
FerociousCorgis said:
Yeah good for him if he doesn't want to leave. But regardless needs to go. We need to bring in a starting CF and hojlund getting the random 10 games or so all season isn't going to do him any good
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Disagree. We get in Gyokeres or similar and Hojlund stays then that shouldnt be an issue. It will take the pressure that should never been on him in the first place, to lead the attack. Also he needs a experienced striker to learn from. He's still very young for a striker.
 
dinostar77 said:
Disagree. We get in Gyokeres or similar and Hojlund stays then that shouldnt be an issue. It will take the pressure that should never been on him in the first place, to lead the attack. Also he needs a experienced striker to learn from. He's still very young for a striker.
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We will have 4 strikers with playing one game per week. Where new striker (probably) starting most of them.
Zirkzee as backup is levels above Hojlund and Chido is good for 3rd option.

Zero sense in keeping Hojlund. Especially because he is nowhere good enough.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
When you say it's bad business. It's bad for PSR bookkeeping. That doesn't necessarily mean it's bad business.

Selling him for saying £35m today is markedly better business than keeping him for 3 seasons, him performing poorly on the pitch, paying 3 full years of wages then selling him for £15m.
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Yeah this is a massive point that I feel people are disregarding. We complain that players like Lindelof massively outstayed their welcome in this team, yet we’re afraid to be ruthless when we need to be.

Also… I’m no PSR expert, but if, and it’s a big if, we can offload both Garnacho and Rashford this summer for let’s say £70m combined, then aren’t we in a pretty sweet position PSR-wise?
 
i think you have to sell either rasmus or zirkzee if we can't sell rashford, sancho and/or antony
 
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