Er, Henrys become rather rubbish now.
Berbatov or Henry?
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Not really. Pretty much a 1 in 2 goalscoring record for Barca in all competitions last season which is good for an injury hit season.
Henry.
Some of those came in really pointless games. Overall he was nowhere near how good Berbatov has been for Spurs. Obviously Henry of a few years back is a different deal altogether.
Of course he wasn't, because he couldn't get a run of games due to injuries. He also played in a completely different position to where he was used to playing. As well as the fact that he had to settle in a completely different country away from his ex-wife.
If Henry had came to us last season I think he could have done very well.
It takes all sorts
KingEric is one of the best posters here, both of you are cnuts.
I see what you did there.
Hello, Glaston.
Would you like to recant, or do you think Berba will come good?
Henry's doing very well for Barca this season...
Would you like to recant, or do you think Berba will come good?
Henry's doing very well for Barca this season...
If Henry was 27 then it'd be him every time.
And would still fit this team brilliantly.
No, he hasn't.
With the way he plays the game, Henry can go on to 35 and still be as effective as Berbatov.
The one thing Berbatov is supposed to have over him is assists, but Henry delivers just as much, if not more in that department as well.
I still think this is a non-contest.
Assists?
He's still far better in the build-up, still offers more of an aerial threat and is better at holding the ball up.
Completely different types of strikers but Henry doesn't involve himself in the build-up half as well as Berbatov, and he doesn't try to half as much because of that.
Henry used to be heavily involved in the build up for Arsenal. He plays a different role now, thats all. He wouldnt be on the left wing for us, he'd be through the middle.
Never as much as Berbatov has been for us though, Henry is still better than almost every other striker like him in the build up, but he isn't as good as Berbatov.
He isn't good in the air and although he is good at holding the ball up Berbatov's a class above.
Obviously he brings other things to the table and so would still suit this team brilliantly.
Don't be silly. Henry's game has always about his incredible pace. He's still quicker than most but when his pace does desert him, in another year or two, he'll be a shadow of his former self.
No, you're absolutely wrong on this.
Henry plays quality one-touch football that works just as well in slow-paced games as fast ones. He has changed his game a great deal over the last three years and definitely does not rely on pace to get by.
You have a pre-conception of his game and you're stuck in it - he's no longer 26 and flying by opposing players every time he gets the ball.
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Glaston, this place is worse off without you.
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Glaston, this place is worse off without you.
Oh dear.
You're right, but only because Berbatov has been playing in attacking midfield. Which many believe has been to the detrement of his success in a United shirt so far. Playing so deep and being almost entirely focused on moving the ball about well, instead of getting into the box and putting the ball of the back of the net. I'm not sure there's ever been a "striker" who played so deep game after game. Heck, if it was the first time you'd ever saw him you'd swear blind he was a midfielder. The only other player I've seen play from similar positions is Gudjohnsen at Barcelona when hes used in midfield.
Agree that Berbatov is miles better in the air than Henry and when on form, better at holding up the ball. We still need to work out how to use both though...
It'll all come about.
I have faith in what Berbatov brings to the team, I have faith in this system and I have faith in Sir Alex being good enough to bring it all together.
You mean the guy who poached a lot of important goals last season, even against big teams from inside the box?WTF?
Small bloke? Scar on his neck? Nickname is Apache?
Like Berbatov done a number of times this season against West Brom, Celtic and Aalborg?You mean the guy who poached a lot of important goals last season, even against big teams from inside the box?
Tevez spends as much time outside the box as Berbatov.
Don't forget, Brwned, you're talking to Mcfeckwit. Logic and common sense don't apply.Like Berbatov done a number of times this season against West Brom, Celtic and Aalborg?
Tevez spends as much time outside the box as Berbatov.
Probably best to give up now and save yourself feeling so frustrated you want to smash your head through your own PC monitor, in about 10 minutes time. That's what I'm gonna do anyways.
Nah, I'm always willing to give it a go with Ekeke.
It does seem like he ignores logical points completely, rather than he missed them.
Smarter than he lets on I think.
When did Aalborg and West Brom become big teams?Like Berbatov done a number of times this season against West Brom, Celtic and Aalborg?
Tevez spends as much time outside the box as Berbatov.
I can still recall Tevez spending far more time in the box last season than Berbatov has. And I hope thats true because spending a decent amount of time in the box and managing only 2 goals so far this premiership season sounds incredibly worrying. More likely, he's just not in there enough rather than being completely ineffective in there.
Do they have to be when you're making a point, a criticism actually, about getting in the box too little, when a player that you constantly talk up does the same thing?
What does the size of the team you're up against have to do with the position a striker scores his goals from?
(ach feck it, why didn't I take my own advice
)I made the point that he did it even in the big games and poached goals from doing it. Something Berbatov hasnt, yet. Also edited my post ^
I miss Glastontwat...
Tevez scored 5 goals in 15 appearances last season.
Berbatov's scored 6 in 15 this season.
Doesn't reflect well on your idea that either 'he's completely ineffective in the box or he just spends less time outside of it', now does it?
Pointless edit.
The fact that you're an idiot, who relentlessly changes his stance in any argument - the moment you're exposed as talking out your arse - still shines though.
I'm only 2 minutes into the argument and to be blatantly honest I am actually already a bit frustrated.
Arguments really do become pointless with Ekeke.
I'll use insults as a last resort, although I'm already slowly moving towards having to do just that.
Thats not very nice, ganging up on Ekeke... I'd help him out, if I knew wtf he was getting at...
Brwned if you mean the first 15 games, he spent a number of them without Rooney - meaning up front with Giggs or up front alone. This was the reason for his slower start, being played out of position and having little support.
Once Rooney came back things improved greatly for him. Berbatov has for almost all of his games, been up front with the first choice strike partner. So its another situation.
Berbatov seems to get into the box a lot more in the champions league. Thats where his goals have come from there. In the league its another story though.
Tevez' goals last season.
You'll note that in his first 15 games, Tevez scored against Chelsea. The only other 'big' team we played during those games, could be said as Roma. So 1/2
In Berbatov's first 15 games, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool were played and he didnt register in one of them.
Once Rooney came back things improved greatly for him. Berbatov has for almost all of his games, been up front with the first choice strike partner. So its another situation.
Berbatov seems to get into the box a lot more in the champions league. Thats where his goals have come from there. In the league its another story though.
Tevez' goals last season.
You'll note that in his first 15 games, Tevez scored against Chelsea. The only other 'big' team we played during those games, could be said as Roma. So 1/2
In Berbatov's first 15 games, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool were played and he didnt register in one of them.