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Chelsea 1:0 Manchester United
Stamford Bridge
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here fecking here. Lets start thinking like champions again. We are the biggest club in the world and we are back baby. We have just smashed all the teams (except Chelsea) that the best this league has to offer. We are flying and I want us to do Chelsea. We shouldnt be scared of any team now. Damn Moyes and his BS affecting peoples mindsets. They dont have Costa and are too reliant on Hazard and Fabregas. Look how many danger men we currently have in this team. They will fear about 7 of our outfield players. We should only fear 3 of theirs.
Feck em over like we have the rest and send a real message to the world. I want maximum points now until the end of the year and I know we are capable of it. Our confidence is going to go through the roof after City. I expect us to play Chelsea off the park. Score a couple early on and we will be cruising.Even a month ago I wouldn't have thought we'd have so many reasons to be confident ahead of a visit to Chelsea. We can beat them. Not saying we will, but we can, the way we've been playing recently.
If Carrick recovers, that is. They're in poor form, they seem to have lost the edge and are sleepwalking towards the title. They'll win it but it would be nice if we woke them up, by beating them convincingly. Or unconvincingly. Doesn't matter.
I'd take a draw but this is winnable. Though we cannot expect an abject collapse a la City. We will actually have to fight here even if we take the lead.Recent League meetings with Chelsea:
2014/15:
Man United 1-1 Chelsea (van Persie; Drogba)
2013/14:
Chelsea 3-1 Man United (Eto'o x3, Hernandez)
Man United 0-0 Chelsea
2012/13:
Man United 0-1 Chelsea (Mata)
Chelsea 2-3 Manchester United (Mata, Ramires; OG, van Persie, Hernandez)
2011/12:
Chelsea 3-3 Man United (OG, Mata, Luiz; Rooney x2, Hernandez)
Man United 3-1 Chelsea (Smalling, Nani, Rooney; Torres)
2010/11:
Man United 2-1 Chelsea (Hernandez, Vidic; Lampard)
Chelsea 2-1 Man United (Luiz, Lampard; Rooney)
2009/10:
Man United 1-2 Chelsea (Macheda; Cole, Drogba)
Chelsea 1-0 Man United (Terry)
2008/09:
Man United 3-0 Chelsea (Vidic, Rooney, Berbatov)
Chelsea 1-1 Man United (Kalou; Park)
2007/08:
Chelsea 2-1 Man United (Ballack x2; Rooney)
Man United 2-0 Chelsea (Tevez, Saha)Same team, same performance, another win. Good luck to Chelsea in handling FellainiTheir defence is no big deal..
Solid midfield though...But they wont 'engage' us....if they do, I expect us to come out on top. They will play on the counter...But I feel we will edge them.
All they need is a point...and tbh a point may be all we need too.
The Arsenal match is the bigger one for me....Really can't call this. We'll give it 100% as always but Jose will shut up shop and hit us on the break. Unfair of us to say chelsea labouring wins means we will go to the bridge and do damage. That's the exact same mentality spurs and liverpool had when facing us, they all assumed that becuase we were struggling against smaller teams away from home we would get packed in by the bigger teams. They were wrong and I'd rather utd fans didn't follow suit. Chelsea will raise their game.
Jose isn't as tactically naive as pelligrini and rodgers. He will have plans to deal with big felz and mata imo. Hopefully he goes ultra defensive, plays for the 0-0/1-0 and we eventually break em down.
Winning isn't beyond us but I'd say 1-1 if I had to put money on it.Last edited:I actually feel relaxed about this game, and don't have a defeatist outlook like I normally have before this fixture. We're the form team, 6 on the bounce with the last 4 being commanding victories, I think Chelsea may just be a bit nervy for this one. You can't second guess Chelsea though, they'll show up no matter what. I just want to see us continue this form and style of play. I'm glad we're in a position where we can actually afford to lose this one without it being too damaging.So important to get a result here. Citeh will play West Ham and likely beat them. If we lose, they will only be a point behind. Need to keep getting those points...Wonder how Chelsea will lineup.
I can see Mourinho keeping an extra defensive midfielder in the team in place of Oscar.
I'd be surprised if they drop Ramires and stick Fabregas next to Matic, the only change I can see is Remy coming in for Drogba.
CourtoisI don't think we'll make any changes (injuries permitting).
Ivanovic Cahill Terry Azpilicueta
Ramires Matic
Willian Fabregas Hazard
Remy
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de Gea
Valencia Smalling Jones Blind
Carrick
Mata Herrera Young
Fellaini
RooneyHazard will give us trouble, he's in better form than any other player we've faced in our run besides Kane.
Avoiding a loss for psychology's sake will be Mourinho's main priority. LVG also will be unlikely to risk it all for a win - we're already ahead of what we needed in the last 4 matches. Unless Rooney comes to life in a big way, I expect a 1-1.Valencia, Herrera and Mata need to be very sound defensively, otherwise they'll get a bit of joy down that side.I think this will be a 0-0.
Mourinho will just kill the game like that FA cup final or the game at Old Trafford last season.
Our bench could be: Valdes, Rojo, Shaw, Di Maria, Januzaj, Van Persie, Falcao
Mata is scoring the winner lads, you heard it here first.
Hugs.....
After watching Carragher and Neville's analysis on MNF, seems they are expecting the sides to line up something like this on Saturday:
De Gea
Valencia Smalling Jones Blind
Herrera Carrick Fellaini
Mata Rooney Young
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Remy
Hazard Fabregas Ramires
Matic Zouma
Azpilicueta Terry Cahill Ivanovic
Courtois
Zouma man-marking Fellaini, Matic blocking the space Herrera likes surging forward into, and Fabregas looking to disrupt Carrick's passing from deep (or Blind if Carrick is unfit to start). Ramires to tuck in and prevent Blind/Young working 2 v 1's against Ivanovic. I imagine Jose will instruct them to press aggressively as City did in the first 15 minutes yesterday, and that they'll look to play balls quickly in behind in an attempt to expose our high defensive line. I think it will be a tight game, with Chelsea scraping a narrow victory, 2-1.Cant believe how Eto scored a hatrick against us last season
Would love us to beat them , 2-0 to us would be nice
//tongue in cheek
Yeah thats exactly what Spurs thought.
Thats what Liverpool thought.
Thats what Villa thought.
Thats what Man City thought.
You're (Chelsea) not playing particularly well, so you will also have to take a beating and accept it.
//tongue out of cheek
Realistically, I can see either side winning or even a draw.
In our previous games I absolutely believed we would win and nothing else (I had the Man City and the yet to be played Arsenal games as 99% win likelikhood). But the Mourinho factor cannot be ignored. He is a master tactician and unlike other managers will have no qualms about using the only 2 tactics which work, against us:
1. park the bus and hit us on the break.
2. get one of our players sent off.
If Chelsea decide to attempt to out play us, they will lose, but if they use one of the 2 tactics above, they will probably win. And as we saw last year against Liverpool, Mourinho is quite happy to use a negative tactic which gets a result.
I honestly cant say who will win.
I cannot predict this one.
He has a stiff calf, which is a big relief as it means that he'll be 100% ready for the match at Stamford Bridge.It'll be close.
Would like to think with Chelsea having the league practically sewn up they might play some adventurous football but probably not.
Score draw for me.If you offered Mou a draw now, he'd bite your hand off. Fabregas's winner has taken the pressure of him for this game imo. I can see us getting done by another Drogba header and Mourinho trying to kill the game. Will be a boring game imo. 0-0Think the way we played in the match at OT this season should be the blueprint for how we approach the game at the Bridge. Fellaini and Carrick occupying Fabregas and Matic respectively, ensuring that their influence will not be as consistent on the match as it could be. This would then allow the space for Young and Mata to drift. Maintain this shape for an hour, and then bring on ADM to exploit Chelsea's tiring legs in the last 30 minutes or so. Hopefully, with recent performances considered, he will have a point to prove and he'll provide that all important moment of magic.
Tbh, with the way our recent performances and results have gone, this is pretty much a freebie for us. Win/Lose/Draw, it shouldn't have too much of an effect on our final league position. So, for the first time in two months, I'm actually not going to be as arsed with the result. The only thing I want to see is a maintenance of the level of our performances since Spurs.Saw Zouma being mentioned on MNF but it wouldn't surprise me if it's Ramires in there instead, Fellaini is obviously very good in the air and his chest control is probably the best around, if Mourinho's been watching us I'd expect him to realise that winning headers against Fellaini probably isn't going to work so instead I'd imagine he'll focus on Chelsea winning that second ball and stopping us from playing within those triangles that have served us so well recently. You'd then have Ivanovic - Ramires - Willian down one side and Hazard - Matic -Azpilicueta down the other which would be superior to anything that any other side could put out against us and on paper would probably be the right set up to stop us. Rooney came out and spoke about us targeting City because they know that some of the players wouldn't track back, with that Chelsea side that wouldn't be an issue, with a lineup of
Courtois
Ivanovic - Terry - Cahill - Azpilicueta
Ramires - Matic
Willian - Fabregas - Hazard
Remy
They'd still be able to sit deep and counter us with pace if that's there gameplan but in Ramires instead of Zouma they'd have better control of midfield. Reckon it'll be a tight game, think that Mata will struggle down the right side and wouldn't be surprised if Di Maria (Assuming he's on the bench) were the difference coming on later on, with Arsenal away next up I reckon this'll be the game that Mourinho goes for and then whatever happens in this game he'll then tailor that into next weeks game against Arsenal. Even though we've been poor against Chelsea for a while now we're playing so well and seem to have so much confidence I think we'll get something from the game, I'll go for a 1-1 draw (Hazard pen, Herrera for us)
You have the wrong mentality there. With all that Carrick on Cesc stuff. Those days are long gone now I feel. Barcelona used to go to any teams ground, and implement their plans without worrying too much about the opposition. This is where I feel we are heading towards. We will play to our systems strength and not try to negate theirs. We didnt have anyone on Silva/Yaya did we? Or when we went to Anfield, no special attention was paid to Coutinho etc.Chelsea are the worst team to play against for us simply because they are not interested in playing. They are happy to sit back and just play the waiting game. Spurs, Liverpool and City are not like that whereas the lower teams are not very good. Chelsea in these big games approach it like a small team with the exception that they do it perfectly. That is why they were one of the very few teams who could stop Barcelona who are the benchmark for what we are trying to achieve. Having said that, I don't really care if the only problem with the way we are playing is that Chelsea can nullify us because they're pretty much the least adventurous big club in Europe so that is a tiny price to pay for the sheer thrill we get when our system works which it should more often than not.
I can see where your coming from mate, and for what it's worth, I think, long-term, that it will be the strategy that we will adopt. But at the moment, with the players (and their respective weaknesses) we currently have, I just see Chelsea's frankly frightening midfield and think we need to put a plan in place to counter it. Going in all Arsene Wengerish and not giving them their due respect could potentially be a recipe for disaster. Hopefully we will build towards this when the manager is finally able to truly mould his own team, as opposed to working with Fergie and Moyes' team, which while much improved, is still very much rooted in the traditional 4-4-2 and its modern day variant, the 4-2-3-1.
With Silva and Yaya, it was a little different because they weren't as mobile to counter the speed of the movement that Herrera especially provided, along with Fellaini. With Liverpool, Brentan did a Brentan (also a Wenger) and did not change his 3-4-3 in his presumed arrogance of beating us easily. Mourinho is a different beast altogether than Pellegrini or Rodgers. He will put a plan in place and will have his players well drilled. And LVG will too. It's this tactical match-up between the two that makes Saturday's match potentially fascinating for the football purist. :-)
I don't consider Chelsea's midfield frightening at all. Very good of course but far from frightening in the sense that they can outplay you. They are an extremely pragmatic side, they don't outplay any of the top teams really. They play the waiting game and try to take advantage of your mistakes. If that fails, they're happy with the draw. Having said, I don't expect us to beat them as I think they're the most awkward team to play against if you want to go out and play football. They even stopped Barcelona who were the best at what we are trying to do so it wouldn't be failure to come up short against them as they're the one big side who plays such unadventurous game. So I would like us to keep the consistency in terms of playing style and maintain the authority of trying to impose our game on them. If it works, perfect. If it doesn't, so be it, I'd take the thrill and authority that comes with performances like yesterday if it meant the occasional slip up against a 10 men defense.
Stop regurgitating this nonsense. We're a completely different outfit at home.
Why does that offend Chelsea fans? They pride themselves with their pragmatism and how they know how to win but when it is pointed out to them, it is somehow insulting. Make up your minds! Of course you are different at home but still compared to any other top team, you are not exactly known for blowing teams away with your attacking play. Obviously this is all relative but I feel the need to point this out every time I post for some reason.We are the form team going into this but I think we'll find this one difficult. Mourinho will not allow us to play as City did, he'll close the gaps if needed and just try to counter through Hazard or Oscar. Chelsea are a tough side at the Bridge.
If we come out of there with a draw I'd consider it a good result. Hoping for more and excited based on our form but I do think it will be more difficult than the matches we've had recently.As good as we are playing, we have to remember we are playing away against the team that will be crowned rightful champions. It's a huge test but there is no reason why we can't beat them if we play well.hope fellaini elbows that cnut ramires
hope ramires snaps that cnut fellaini 2 can play at that game
Surely?Mourinho will kill the game, and go for a point. Its going to be a tug of war, not a piece of art.We will destroy them.Can see us dominating possession, despite being away from home, and Chelsea trying to hit us on the counter.Mata has been on the score sheet quite often against us when he played for them, and has been magnificent in those games. Hope he shines in this fixture again, only this time to our advantage.
Because it's completely wrong and I can't believe the amount of people that keep repeating that nonsense. We wouldn't be sat atop of the league since the first week if we were supposedly content with parking the bus in every game like you're insinuating. Away from home we're definitely a pragmatic team but we're a completely different outfit at home.
You don't take the lead in every single game played in 2015 by sitting back and defending for 90 minutes. Expect a fast start from us.I predict a draw.- Status
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