Everton 0:2 Manchester United

DRJosh · Dec 22, 2020

Please send the under 21s for this one.

In all seriousness, I'd be shocked if VDB doesn't start this.

InfiniteBoredom · Dec 22, 2020

Inigo Montoya said:
So I guess you won’t be watching?

Yes.

It’s rough enough catching PL games at 4 am here, I’m not wasting my time with the League Cup.

Half of our XI won the FAC, LC and EL, Pogba won a couple of Series A, the World Cup and played in a CL final. Mata won a CL with Chelsea, Cavani won a gazillion Ligure 1. The litmus test for this team is the league and CL, not second rate trophies like the LC, FAC and EL.

Call me spoiled if you want, 7 years without winning the league and 9 years since the last CL final is too long for Manchester United. This isn’t 1989.

Shimo · Dec 22, 2020

Wonder if Everton will rotate too. We had better rotate for this otherwise might as well get rid of half the squad in January.

Henderson
Williams, Tuanzebe, Baily, Telles
Matic, Pogba
VDB
Mata, Cavani, James

It would be tough since most have not played together but, it's the LC and having just a few days before LC who are in very good form, can't afford to go into that game with tired starters.

Mr Smith · Dec 22, 2020

Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
Honestly don’t care. All I care about is #21. Play the youth team for all I care.

You're setting yourself up for disappointment my friend.

always_hoping · Dec 22, 2020

11 changes a possibility?

Henderson for DeGea
Williams for Wan Bissaka
Bailly for Maguire
Tuanzebe for Lindelof
Telles for Shaw
Matic for Fred
Pogba for McTominay
Van de Beek for Bruno
Mata for James
Greenwood for Rashford
Cavani for Martial

Gasolin · Dec 22, 2020

Mr Smith said:
You're setting yourself up for disappointment my friend.

One game at a time, let’s go!

OrcaFat · Dec 22, 2020

Damien said:
Guessing mostly large-scale rotation for this with us playing Leicester City on boxing day

Henderson

Williams Tuanzebe* Maguire Telles
Matic
van de Beek Pogba
Mata
Greenwood Cavani

*wasn’t on the bench today so maybe Bailly but not too keen on playing him

I’d be more than happy with that line up. Would be confident of winning. Squad depth looks pretty decent compared to this time last year.

HJ12 · Dec 22, 2020

Don't want to see Bruno or Rashford anywhere near the team...shouldn't even be on the bench. Hopefully they get given a complete rest.

OrcaFat · Dec 22, 2020

InfiniteBoredom said:
Yes.

It’s rough enough catching PL games at 4 am here, I’m not wasting my time with the League Cup.

Half of our XI won the FAC, LC and EL, Pogba won a couple of Series A, the World Cup and played in a CL final. Mata won a CL with Chelsea, Cavani won a gazillion Ligure 1. The litmus test for this team is the league and CL, not second rate trophies like the LC, FAC and EL.

Call me spoiled if you want, 7 years without winning the league and 9 years since the last CL final is too long for Manchester United. This isn’t 1989.

It’s also not 1999. In fact it’s not anything except 2020. If you’re only interested in winning you can switch to another team as soon as it is clear they will win. That will enrich your enjoyment of the sport and of life itself.

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EliotTheRed · Dec 22, 2020

This game reminds me of FM where you make 11 changes and pick up an achievement trophy for playing two different 11s two games.

I guess the bench from Leeds starts, along with Maguire at CB. Wouldn’t be surprised if Dan James keeps his place either.

Inigo Montoya · Dec 22, 2020

InfiniteBoredom said:
Yes.

It’s rough enough catching PL games at 4 am here, I’m not wasting my time with the League Cup.

Half of our XI won the FAC, LC and EL, Pogba won a couple of Series A, the World Cup and played in a CL final. Mata won a CL with Chelsea, Cavani won a gazillion Ligure 1. The litmus test for this team is the league and CL, not second rate trophies like the LC, FAC and EL.

Call me spoiled if you want, 7 years without winning the league and 9 years since the last CL final is too long for Manchester United. This isn’t 1989.

Maybe not spoiled but have high expectations and I can respect that.

Win the PL is the primary goal I agree but as Jose said when he first joined Chelsea winning your first trophy gives the squad belief.

PoTMS · Dec 22, 2020

Lingard must start this.

Bondi77 · Dec 22, 2020

Give Ighalo a game FFS!
WTF was the point in keeping him til January and probably paying him the same wage Kane earns at Spurs...what a joke.

Devil81 · Dec 22, 2020

I'd rotate the full starting eleven and take the risk, if we go out, we go out but at least we're giving the first team a rest before the tough game at weekend.

Henderson
Williams
Telles/Shaw
Axel T
Bailly (if fit)
Pogba
Matic
Fred
Greenwood
James
Ighalo

Pellegri on the bench for his debut.

InfiniteBoredom · Dec 22, 2020

OrcaFat said:
It’s also not 1999. In fact it’s not anything except 2020. If you’re only interested in winning you can switch to another team as soon as it is clear they will win. That will enrich your enjoyment of the sport and of life itself.

Ah yes, the classic glory hunter dig.

I have emotional ties to Manchester United through decades of supporting the club. Just because we are in a slump doesn’t mean I have to accept lowering the standard our finance and stature demand of us.

I didn’t care when Fergie lost to Leeds in the LC, or started Bebe in the FAC against Crawley at home and eked out a 1-0 win. And I’m not gonna change just because the fan base have somehow become content with finishing 3rd and got less than 70 points 3 out of last 4 seasons.

tomaldinho1 · Dec 22, 2020

Devil81 said:
I'd rotate the full starting eleven and take the risk, if we go out, we go out but at least we're giving the first team a rest before the tough game at weekend.

Henderson
Williams
Telles/Shaw
Axel T
Bailly (if fit)
Pogba
Matic
Fred
Greenwood
James
Ighalo

Pellegri on the bench for his debut.

Exactly, this cup couldn't be more pointless. PL has too many fixtures AND we're now in Europa - fully happy to trust the non starters and just rest everyone. PL is everything right now.

Gerald G · Dec 22, 2020

Bondi77 said:
Give Ighalo a game FFS!
WTF was the point in keeping him til January and probably paying him the same wage Kane earns at Spurs...what a joke.

As a backup - it's not really a joke. He was an insurance policy and he will be going back next month so there's no need to play him here. Just play Cavani

MyOnlySolskjaer · Dec 22, 2020

Bondi77 said:
Give Ighalo a game FFS!
WTF was the point in keeping him til January and probably paying him the same wage Kane earns at Spurs...what a joke.

He leaves the club in 9 days, we owe him nothing. It was a poor decision to extend his contract.

PoTMS · Dec 22, 2020

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
He leaves the club in 9 days, we owe him nothing. It was a poor decision to extend his contract.

IIRC, he leaves at the end of January.

DickDastardly · Dec 22, 2020

No major changes please.

Ole needs to win a trophy. I hope last years feck up in the Cups was enough of a warning.

It will be between us, City or Tottehham for the cup. Winnable.
Ole needs to decide the team for saturday - then make minor tweaks it tomorrow's game.

Obviously, Mctominay is out.

Henderson on goal.
Wan Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Telles. No need to rest any of them.
Pogba, Matić, VDB in the middle.
Mata, Greenwood, Cavani forward.

Wednesday at Stoke · Dec 22, 2020

Greenwood Cavani
Mata
Pogba vdB
Matic
Telles Maguire Bailly Williams
Henderson

RashyForPM · Dec 22, 2020

Vital that Fred, McT and Bruno don’t get even a single minute here. We’ll need their energy and quality to outplay one of the best midfields in the league in Leicester’s Ndidi, Tielemans and Maddison on Boxing Day. With that in mind, I’ll go:

Deano
Williams Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Matic
VdB Pogba
Greenwood Cavani James

I was about to say it’ll be a really hard game, and obviously it will be, but our depth is really impressive. Telles, Matic, VdB and Pogba are all probably the best backups in the world in their respective positions. Would include Maguire and Mason, but they aren’t backups of course.

1-2 United, Greenwood X2

Devil81 · Dec 22, 2020

Devil81 said:
I'd rotate the full starting eleven and take the risk, if we go out, we go out but at least we're giving the first team a rest before the tough game at weekend.

Henderson
Williams
Telles/Shaw
Axel T
Bailly (if fit)
Pogba
Matic
Fred
Greenwood
James
Ighalo

Pellegri on the bench for his debut.

Replying to myself because I missed out VDB, he's got to start this one.

Take out Fred.

Edit....

Forgot Mata

The squads huge..

ShinjiNinja26 · Dec 22, 2020

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Good! United are no longer in the CL so I don’t give a shit. :lol:

Rightnr · Dec 22, 2020

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They could also be in neither. It'll be funny either way.

A-man · Dec 22, 2020

Henderson
Fosu-Mensah - Bailly - Maguire - Telles
Matic- Pogba - Donny - Mata
Martial- Cavani

No Idea For Nickname · Dec 22, 2020

ShinjiNinja26 said:
Good! United are no longer in the CL so I don’t give a shit.

Could be 3 or 4 days before Uniteds first EL Semi final game..

cyberman · Dec 22, 2020

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Its Pep. Theyre safe.

red woppit · Dec 22, 2020

Shimo said:
Wonder if Everton will rotate too. We had better rotate for this otherwise might as well get rid of half the squad in January.

Henderson
Williams, Tuanzebe, Baily, Telles
Matic, Pogba
VDB
Mata, Cavani, James

It would be tough since most have not played together but, it's the LC and having just a few days before LC who are in very good form, can't afford to go into that game with tired starters.

I wouldn't even have De Gea, Bruno or Rashford on the bench. Give them a week off. Would like to see Pellistri, Lingard (he needs to show he's fit so he can get a move in January), Mengi, Laird, Ighalo on the bench.

Rajma · Dec 22, 2020

Can people stop with this needing a trophy bs when it comes this season at least? Just play kids we can't lose any first team players down to injuries in this hectic season.

Web of Bissaka · Dec 22, 2020

Rajma said:
Can people stop with this needing a trophy bs when it comes this season at least? Just play kids we can't lose any first team players down to injuries in this hectic season.

Why? This season is another transition? We're not yet ready? Prioritize top 4 in the league?

Web of Bissaka · Dec 22, 2020

Oh no, Lingard is mentioned, Ole confirmed he's in the squad. Will he play?

red_de_pologne · Dec 22, 2020

Web of Bissaka said:
Why? This season is another transition? We're not yet ready? Prioritize top 4 in the league?

Absolutely, especially given how we're suddenly in a title race we should absolutely prioritize league above everything

Leonzo1 · Dec 22, 2020

Really nice finally having a deep squad. I reckon Maguire and James will be the only ones keeping their place. VDB Mata Pogba and Matic will be involved as well. Ole and the squad need a trophy and this is the easiest one to win, go for it while resting our crucial players. give up on the FA cup and the Europa, focus on the league and the easiest trophy to win.

Sandikan · Dec 22, 2020

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That would be perfection if after a season of not having to pay out/go to any games us season ticket holders could just cruise in for the final at Wembley 20mins down the road from me

Obviously we'll go out before we get there now I've said that!

Dr. Dwayne · Dec 22, 2020

Damien said:
Guessing mostly large-scale rotation for this with us playing Leicester City on boxing day

Henderson

Williams Tuanzebe* Maguire Telles
Matic
van de Beek Pogba
Mata
Greenwood Cavani

*wasn’t on the bench today so maybe Bailly but not too keen on playing him

didn't see your post until after I picked pretty much the same line up, Damo.

Ole'sattheWheel · Dec 22, 2020

The eternal mickey mouse cup dilemma. "Good chance to rest key players in busy christmas period" vs "good chance to win some silverware and boost morale".

Genuinely can't decide where I sit but I think I'd be more annoyed to injure bruno and win, than lose with the U23s. Worst case scenario is obviously play the full squad and lose.

Danny Roberts · Dec 22, 2020

I reckon we'll rotate more than they will as it means more to them and they don't have Europe. But suspect a few changes for them too.

dal · Dec 22, 2020

Greenwood should start, really need him to find some goals doing form.

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