Should've been one of the priorities to upgrade him this summer. Unfortunately, he's one of the managers favourites.
Who should replace Lingard?
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Just give Gomes the minutes that Jesse plays. He’ll be more productive than Lingard.
I would like to see Gomes take it. Think that Gomes needs Minutes this year. It is going to be intersting year for Gomes as he is in the last year of his contract which Woody should have never let get this far and in my opinion is a glaring mistake on woody's part and I fear Barca are going to try to sign him for free next year 
. I think we should do everything possible to get Gomes to sign new contract, even if that meant selling Lingard tomorrow. Would hate to see Gomes leave due to not getting enough minutes instead of Lingard.
. I think we should do everything possible to get Gomes to sign new contract, even if that meant selling Lingard tomorrow. Would hate to see Gomes leave due to not getting enough minutes instead of Lingard.James hasn't proven himself in the biggest European competitions and you said that only because of the clubs that he played for, as both Bayern and Real are top class clubs. He wasn't an important part of either Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. The German club didn't buy him because he wasn't good enough, cost a lot and his contract is also expensive. They prefer to invest in younger, more perspective and cheaper players and that's what we should do as well. I simply do not believe he would be an improvement for us - he's not proven in PL at all (this is our main focus at the moment) and he wouldn't fit to the new club's strategy.
La Liga: 28 goals en 27 assists in 77 appearances.
Bundesliga: 14 goals en 15 assists in 43 appearances.
League 1: 9 goals en 13 assists in 34 appearances.
Columbia: 22 goals en 25 assists in 76 caps.
Also note that in the Liga and Bundesliga, he averaged more that 1 goal envolvement per 90 minutes.
He played for world class teams with other world class options for his positions. We are far from that level and we have no decent option for the CAM position.
That he may be expensive should not be a problem. 40 million is nothing at the moment and salary wise he will not bust our bank either.
Bruno Fernandes has done good in Portugal, which is not a strong league and has shown very little in his seasons in the Serie A. How is he a guarantee? And he will cost more as well.
Pretty much this.
It’s not really rocket science. If anything, sell Jesse following this season since we’ll need everyone to chip in once Lukaku leaves.
Lingard is terrible. He doesn't influence the game enough. He dribbles well makes forward runs but always takes too long to release the ball forward. He only looks good when he is having a shot. Off the ball he is anonymous. He is a faux winger. He plays in wide positions but he can't cross, beat a man one-on-one. Always cuts inside, provides zero width. He makes intelligent runs in behind and can finish now and again. But that isn't enough. - Greenwood and Gomes should start ahead of him. They would offer us a lot more than Lingard.
I'd love to see Gomes and Greenwood breakthrough this year, but for fans to say that they should start ahead of Lingard is just ridiculous. One has proven himself in the premier League, scored in World Cups, in cup finals. The others have shown decent potential in the reserves/U21s. I genuinely don't get it - I mean, it's just a weird destructive fantasy that involves tearing down a player who has played for us since he was a little kid. And why? Because his social media is a bit annoying and he's not one of the best players in the league.
Gomes deserves a chance there.
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You mean when they have scored against Panama? wow. or scored a goal in an FA Cup Final over 3 years ago or had a 6 week spell in the season before last.
Or you could watch him play and realise that he is absolutely terrible at football the rest of the time.
Nothing to do with his social media display - couldn't care less - maybe we could have someone who can pass the ball further than 5 yards, dribble, not clog up the spaces for other players, tackle, assist now and again , score regularly and not just over the Xmas period once in 4 years.
Doesn't have to be the youngsters who are clearly more talented but someone we could buy or in fact other players in the squad.
Yup frustrating for us fans. However Ole's backing of these will be his downfall.
No way Lingard goes, he's central to the club's marketing strategy. We seem to be building the brand around him and Rashford.
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Which is such bullshit. He's a decent player. Good work rate, decent burst of pace, has a bit of skill and likes a forward run, can shoot well from distance, and links up well in the final 3rd.
Fine, you don't like him. But these narratives that he's "terrible at football" are pathetic.
He will last more than 10 years at United just as Jones..
Gomes for me but most likely Fernandes if he comes in
It's not ridiculous. Gomes is already better at passing in tight areas and has unbelievably good close control. Maybe even the best in the whole club. If they got given same minutes it's almost guaranteed he would have more assists , more key passes and won't lack anything from this "effort" people defend Lingard with.
If you want to take up one of the attacking spots in the team you have to produce something, it's that simple. Running around will not suffice by itself. And 14 goals, 10 assists from over 100 matches simply prove your a passenger and another player deserves your place.
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I don't think its a lack of goals or assists that makes me frustrated with Lingard. Its more to do with the fact that his only top attribute seems to be off the ball movement. When he doesn't play well, he is invisible. When he play's well, maybe he does provide space for other players, but he often fecks up the chance or fails to provide the final pass, which means all the hard work of creating the space is lost. But what frustrates me is that off-the ball movement is something many players have - its just that they also have a lot of other excellent traits which is why we hardly talk about it for them. Lingard doesn't seem to have any other top traits in my view.
I think he is an average player and nothing he has done so far in his career has made me think otherwise. I therefore think its reasonable for people to want Gomes to start a few games instead of Lingard, because Gomes could offer more to the team.
I think he is an average player and nothing he has done so far in his career has made me think otherwise. I therefore think its reasonable for people to want Gomes to start a few games instead of Lingard, because Gomes could offer more to the team.
I think that may be the case as I've read we are planning to give him an extension soon and increase his wages by £30,000 per week. Which I think would be a mistake.
Don't think we will get Sancho. If he has good season next year and good Euros his price is going to be phenomenal.
He is not a decent player , running around a bit without an end product is pointless, when was his last shot scored from distance, when was his last contribution and links with who exactly. It's not a question of not liking him , it's a question of having good footballers playing for United and he is terrible. The sooner either the youngsters of other incoming players remove him from the team and more so from the entire squad the better.
Unfortunately we're going to be stuck with him on the pay roll because no other team is remotely interested in him, wonder why that is.
Gomes deserves the chance, is there any news why he hasn't signed a new deal yet?
Not as pathetic as your defense of him. Listen to the words you are using _
- "decent" burst; "a bit of" skill; "likes" a foreword run. Jesus, even you can't be bothered to mount a half-decent defense of the guy.
You keep yapping away about this "new transfer strategy" so why don't you tell us what that is because, as far as I can see, we've signed a defensive fullback for the first team and a no name winger who will ply his trade with the under 23s for most of the season. So again, remind me what this new strategy is? As far as James Rodriguez is concerned, if you don't think that he is not an improvement on Jesse freaking Lingard, then I don't even know what to say so I'll say nothing.
I think you're being very harsh on Woodward in your post.I would like to see Gomes take it. Think that Gomes needs Minutes this year. It is going to be intersting year for Gomes as he is in the last year of his contract which Woody should have never let get this far and in my opinion is a glaring mistake on woody's part and I fear Barca are going to try to sign him for free next year
Gomes will only sign a new contract if he's given assurances regarding his role in the first team. It's upto Ole to decide if he's gonna get significant minutes in the new season, which will in turn be crucial in Gomes's decision to commit to a new deal.
I'd have Gomes ahead of both Mata and Lingard..
I respect your opinion on what you said regarding what I feel about Woody but I stand by my comment and don't think I'm being too harsh. Although I agree with your part in bold. Hope Ole gives him enough minutes as it would really p!ss me off to see him sign for someone else and fulfill his potential there not here as I think he is far too talented to let him go on a free.
If it was upto Woodward, then i'm sure Gomes would've signed by now. Gomes not signing a new contract has no correlation to Woodward.
I thought that it was Woody job to negotiate it. It just annoys me that he has gone into the last year of his contract and I can't understand why we haven't sorted it sooner
It's gone into the last year because Gomes has been reluctant to commit with so much uncertainty surrounding the club. I'm sure the club would've tried to get his contract extended but Gomes won't commit unless he's given assurances that he will play a part in the first team.I thought that it was Woody job to negotiate it. It just annoys me that he has gone into the last year of his contract and I can't understand why we haven't sorted it sooner
Thanks for telling me the reasons why he hasn't signed yet. Just hope he gets the minutes so he wants so he signs
I should.
The stats are one thing 0 goals and 0 assists in a year but his overall play is shocking as well, how the hell does he still get picked. Disgusting.
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You can’t blame him, Solskjaer is the clown that persists with this madness of playing a one paced nothing player. Crazy
He has such little quality. He's in the team for his apparent movement. Might as well replace him with a Roomba.
That said, it's only the 1st day of 2020 and he's already equalled his output for the whole of last year, so that's something.
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There isn't a single aspect of his game that's improved since he's first broke through. What a joke
You can blame for being the same shitty player he's always been, actually scratch that, you can blame for getting worse and worse as a footballer. He's a fecking disgrace.
There isn't a single aspect of his game that's improved since he's first broke through. What a joke
Like 10 men
Worse, it's like he's playing for Arsenal.
I think anyone can replace Lingard at the moment.