Yeah I would say it was more personal locker room stuff. But it doesn’t mean it’s wrong to interpret it how you want without context. This is what people do all the time.
It’s not very hard to see what’s racist about it. Come on now. However it was probably 90 % not racist.
No I really don't see it, I don't think Zlatan is racist at all, he was just getting under his skin and it worked
This is a séance, not voodoo or anything to do with voodoo.
The victim blaming in this post is unreal. I suppose it's a woman's fault for wearing a short skirt if she's raped as well?
Stop being ignorant now. You fully know Donkey can be interpreted as racist and voodoo is associated with African culture. If a man of another race randomly said that to a black man on the straight. He would be asked to explain himself.
I don’t get how calling a black man a donkey can be interpreted as racist.
Not being “a racist” (whatever that means) isn’t a cast iron defence against having said something racist. You don’t have to be a signed up member of the KKK to make a racist comment.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...voodoo-message-everton-chelsea-farhad-moshiri
There is an history of disdain in islamic culture for polytheists beliefs, especially african ones, that date back to the time Islam expanded to these countries. Even now, you often see videos on whatsapp of muslim people mocking african people who practice Islam a bit differently.
Yeah that’s cool. I already mentioned it earlier that it’s probably locker room banter which he brought up to get under his skin.. that’s how I see it anyway.
This is not a defence. What Moshiri said was racist amd wrong. Referencing it doesn't exonorate him.
It depends on who is being accused of making the racist statement sadly.
Some people on here (we all know which ones) would defend fans chanting “Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz” as banter. It’s quite telling.
He also called Bailly Kunta Kinte.
Agree. I like Zlatan and I think he's trying to get under Lukaku's skin, but he's blatantly perpetuating a racist lie in this instance. It's the same for the whole Suarez-Evra thing; Suarez isn't racist in my opinion, however he clearly used racist words to get under Evra's skin.
In addition, I don't really find it credible that someone that doesn't have english as the native language, to use those words in a heated argument on the pitch.
My mistake is probably trying to project this on myself — I know which part of that lie I would be offended by most (the personalised accusation of me being a money-hungry and untrustworthy person rather than a generalisation about my race), but I obviously can't put myself in Lukaku's shoes as I rarely, if ever, been a target of a racial abuse. Your remark doesn't really disprove my logic if you think about it, but this is probably not a debate that should be settled by excluding emotional reactions and experiences.
I think, unfortunately, because racists tend to use it to describe black players. We aren't all equal with our derisive descriptors I'm afraid.
I agree but black people have a history of being compared to animals, even donkeys. That's why I try to avoid using that comparison when labelling black players, even though I definitely mean it as someone being totally useless and clumsy.
I was talking about the seeing someone part, not voodoo specifically. Lukaku is from RDC voodoo is highly unlikely but to me the important part in that was the idea of seeing someone for guidance which is totally possible. As for Zlatan he tried to wind up Lukaku in a crass way.
Is saying you practice Voodoo actually racist though? there's lots of things that are "stereotypical", if he said go play basketball would that be seen as racist too?
I don't know man, I'm starting to think my entire life I have been racist. I call my friends donkeys everyday.
Yes, of course it would.
It is when the person who said it originally only said it because Lukaku is black and refused to sign a new contract with Everton. And Lukaku has since denied that is how he made the decision to leave Everton.
