I dont find these comparison very apt to be fair. And to me this smells of statpicking. The last 3 years under Mourinho you mention is in a very well funded team with one of the best managers in modern football and who had an overly big focus on defence. Compare it to Solskjær being more attacking, terrible Rangnick and all the defensive aspects of those two. You cant just attribute a 25% decrease to just one man. Well yes you can, if you statpick. But you mentioned not having eyes. Did you not see his first half season here?
Park shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same vein as Carrick. One was the most important midfielder during the most successful spell in the clubs history and the other was a squad player who occasionally had good spells in the side.
No one in their right mind would argue against Gerrard being a Liverpool's legend though.
You made the comparison? You said United was worse before he came. It's different than saying than the current team would be worse without him.
Man Utd was relegated in 1973-74 and Robson arrived in 1981, so the expectations were not very high.
So this is losing his mind?
You must live in a monastery or something.
So being better than that bunch of a lot of shitty players makes him a legend then? Wouldn't be my definition but powers to you and some of the other posters in here. I think, it de-values the term legend but I guess it is at least consequential to establish a true banter club. I mean, seriously, a legend because he is better than then Lingard, Pereira, Weghorst, Greenwood, Rashford, Dan James, 37y/o Ronaldo and Martial?
It is fairly easy question. But again nice to see you being the one pointing out how to post the correct way.
Man so many fantastic players. You really have to wonder what happend that we continued to be a bad team despite all this talent.He's been the best creator in the league behind KDB ever since his arrival. A chance creating machine, world class player, availability freak, loves the club, gives everything he has...and a lot of United supporters hate him, because they think they know how tactics work and Bruno is apparently holding the team back because he loses the ball often
Same with Rashford. One of the best left wingers in the world, been at the club since he was a kid, and hated by the fans.
Hope they lift the PL or CL with United, they deserve to. Same with Shaw.
Ugh, you again.
Mata and Herrera weren't as good as him and we rarely even regular starters. Bruno is the captain and often the best player. I'd put him closer to the likes of DDG, RVN or Carrick. Not legends but very good players for multiple seasons.
They've also had long spells where they've done nothing. Bruno hasn't.
The three players you listed are definitely a level or two above Bruno in legend status at the club.
He’s been so much better than them though. He’s been fantastic for us in parts in a time where that’s very difficult to do.
I dont remember Bruno doing very much in most of the catastrophic defeats this season. Or last.
Just put me on ignore if it gets too difficult. Save the passive aggressive stuff for your loved ones.
I accept your apology.
Fergie talked about his idea of world class in that instance. Not necessarily about legends. And yes, because everybody has a different understanding what that term means it will always be difficult to discuss before finding a definition first that most people will agree on. As you see, the majority in here isn't in favor of the notion of him being a legend so there seems to be a number of people probably with a rather similar understanding of the term. I personally would agree to a poster who said that dire times usually don't produce legends. Had we won a few big trophies with Bruno than his legend status may look different. But I guess, his performance thread wouldn't be as polarized as it is right now as well. By people with extreme unjust criticism and by people who think about calling him a legend...
He is the club captain, great support within fan base, achieved some spectacular individual numbers, the list goes on. He is a player next generation of United players will have to emulate.What the hell???
We're Manchester United, you know.
Edit - Just noticed the OP also says "he must have all the credentials, surely?". Wow.
Luke Shaw possibly, depending on your definition of major signing? I'd say he's been a net positive over an extended period - not really his fault he broke his leg either.
Terrifying.
Haha
I don't see why. People moaned about them while they were playing same as Bruno.
Because the team was trash. None of our players did much to help the team during Moyes season. Is Rooney and Rio out?
Pretty much. I imagine Robson would have got similar stuff if he played today.
