Ya it's not looking good for him is it. He'd want to find his form ASAP or he won't be here after the summer. He's better than what he's currently showing but it's simply not good enough right now.
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I don't think that he could have done much about any of the goals, but he was very lucky to not concede a penalty. Martinez saved his ass in the same situation.
The guy is a liability, unfortunately.
The guy is a liability, unfortunately.
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Well you can see Onana had the red carpet out for Neto at his near post. Terrible positioning.I've defended him on here. But as soon as I saw Neto cut in, I just knew he was going to get done near post.
But IMO I'm not confident with him in goal like I would be with De Gea for example. Yeah playing out from the back would be limited with De Gea but you know he's capable of a world class save or two in a game.
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There is literally nothing he can do to save itOf course he can save it, he's just positioned himself poorly, he's gambling that Neto is going far post. Just look a the gap he leaves near post. You could drive a fecking truck in there.
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More guessing from onana costs another goal. Also the one where he tried to make himself big but turns all wrong allowing ball to deflect in. Just improper technique yet again. Stop making fecking excuses for him
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Decent game imo. Goals weren't his fault. Did cock up coming out for a set piece though
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Near post is the keepers mate! Have you ever played in goal? His positioning was crap!Are you being serious? There was absolutley nothing he could do on the third goal
Let's see if the comments back you up.
Oh, and by the way, he managed to clean out another forward whilst coming for a high ball, and if it wasn't for Martinez clearance off the line he would have looked a prize plonker on that one too.
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I’m sure a keeper should cover his near post first and foremost and then the striker needs to shoot across him. He basically side stepped to the other side of the goal and left the near post wide open so of course he couldn’t save it then, especially with the reactions he has and his flop to the floor style dive, no wonder he didn’t even tryThere is literally nothing he can do to save it
He’s got awful goalkeeping basics.
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Apart from all the ones stood in the right place!How is he supposed to save that? There is no keeper in the world that would have saved it
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Exactly. You cover the near post and challenge the striker to go for the far post - which the nearest defender is then tasked to block.I’m sure a keeper should cover his near post first and foremost and then the striker needs to shoot across him. He basically side stepped to the other side of the goal and left the near post wide open so of course he couldn’t save it then, especially with the reactions he has and his flop to the floor style dive, no wonder he didn’t even try
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No, no one was saving thatApart from all the ones stood in the right place!
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I swear I watched his brother play for Inter last season or something. That guy completely dominated his six yard box and was very secure.
For the second goal he just lets Kilman get the shot instead of coming out and engaging, he seemed to be waiting for it to hit his face again like the shot a few minutes before.
He's just very unnatural in some of the techniques and a big part of the reason you're very unconvincing defending set pieces despite your defenders actually playing well tonight.
The Neto one I think he just gambled on Varane blocking it. Even if he'd dived he probably wouldn't have got there as it went through his legs.
For the second goal he just lets Kilman get the shot instead of coming out and engaging, he seemed to be waiting for it to hit his face again like the shot a few minutes before.
He's just very unnatural in some of the techniques and a big part of the reason you're very unconvincing defending set pieces despite your defenders actually playing well tonight.
The Neto one I think he just gambled on Varane blocking it. Even if he'd dived he probably wouldn't have got there as it went through his legs.
MonkeysMagic
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ETH needs to swallow his £47m pride and drop Onana for Bayindir. Surely on a sporting level any manager can see that there is an option on the bench which is of equivalent or better ability so to not use him is just daft.
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One goal (3rd) fully to blame for, how many times has he been beaten at his near post.
Saved twice by on the line clearances, if you go for the high ball, you have to get it.
Thank heaven's for Mainoo getting him out of jail
Saved twice by on the line clearances, if you go for the high ball, you have to get it.
Thank heaven's for Mainoo getting him out of jail
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He's the worst goalkeeper I have ever seen play for the club.
Even Taibi would have looked better with the same number of games.
Even Taibi would have looked better with the same number of games.
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I was very keen on this guy before signing but blimey, is he bad. When we're having to defend his performance today as not that bad for him, you know we've got issues.
The guy just seems to have no grasp of basic goalkeeping technique. I can only imagine he's had a mental breakdown since joining United as he looked generally solid at Inter and Ajax while showing off his distribution far more often.
The guy just seems to have no grasp of basic goalkeeping technique. I can only imagine he's had a mental breakdown since joining United as he looked generally solid at Inter and Ajax while showing off his distribution far more often.
Djemba-Djemba
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He's just shite.
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Needs to be dropped a proper calamity goalkeeper.
He exudes crapness. Bayindir deserves a run. Heaton is better than Onana.
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There is literally nothing he can do to save it
I don't blame him for the goal, there was the corner, with everyone forward, then you had Antony whatever he was doing.Neither does blaming him for the 3rd goal but you’re giving it a fair old whack.
But Onana simply has to do better there. Just look at his positioning and his feet. Steps two to the right just before Neto shoots. He's not even ready for a shot, he's just guessing that he's going back post and is preparing for that dive. He could step put another yard, be a bit more to his left a yard maybe and cover his post better, he's made that finish easy for Neto. You could see it happening before it even happened.
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His problem is that even if you accept that no goalkeeper in the world saves any of their 3 goals (at best a 50/50 opinion) and even if you believe that the kind of howler top keepers make a couple of times a season can be overlooked if made semi-regularly (such as the one Martinez bailed him out of); providing your contribution to the build up is fantastic (an even more fringe view). He ain't particularly great at that.
It's like if there's several aspects a scout would look at in a goalkeeper; we've disregarded all but one of them in order to get a keeper who isn't even one of the best in one. At least if we put Eriksen in goal I'd understand the (flawed) thought process.
It's like if there's several aspects a scout would look at in a goalkeeper; we've disregarded all but one of them in order to get a keeper who isn't even one of the best in one. At least if we put Eriksen in goal I'd understand the (flawed) thought process.
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For me it's the way he seems to make no attempt to save the shot, and just watches the ball go past him, are we expecting too much, or are we just spoiled because the majority of keepers we have had would at lest attempt a save?I don't blame him for the goal, there was the corner, with everyone forward, then you had Antony whatever he was doing.
But Onana simply has to do better there. Just look at his positioning and his feet. Steps two to the right just before Neto shoots. He's not even ready for a shot, he's just guessing that he's going back post and is preparing for that dive. He could step put another yard, be a bit more to his left a yard maybe and cover his post better, he's made that finish easy for Neto. You could see it happening before it even happened.
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‘I don’t blame him for the goal…but Obama simply has to do better there’.I don't blame him for the goal, there was the corner, with everyone forward, then you had Antony whatever he was doing.
But Onana simply has to do better there. Just look at his positioning and his feet. Steps two to the right just before Neto shoots. He's not even ready for a shot, he's just guessing that he's going back post and is preparing for that dive. He could step put another yard, be a bit more to his left a yard maybe and cover his post better, he's made that finish easy for Neto. You could see it happening before it even happened.
We could see it because we were watching from behind Neto at a raised angle on tv. Onana can see Varane but because you can see what’s going on you think he should just vacate the far post coverage completely?
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His problem is that he routinely concedes goals that don't look right or are very soft.
They're not 'mistakes' and if they happened once or twice a season you'd never look twice at them...but there's an awful lot of goals we've conceded this season when you look at his effort to make the save and think "could he not have done a bit better?".
The 3rd goal tonight is a prime example. Varane should do much better and I think his positioning is fine, but he was left absolutely rooted to the spot when the shot came in and we have seen that before this season.
They're not 'mistakes' and if they happened once or twice a season you'd never look twice at them...but there's an awful lot of goals we've conceded this season when you look at his effort to make the save and think "could he not have done a bit better?".
The 3rd goal tonight is a prime example. Varane should do much better and I think his positioning is fine, but he was left absolutely rooted to the spot when the shot came in and we have seen that before this season.
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Not at fault for any of the goals (mind, saved by Licha for a goal that would've been his). Doesn't look like he will make a save to win us a game though.
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The problem with plenty on this forum is that, for some, every goal we concede will now be his fault, just due to not liking him. The first two were nothing to do with him. The third he could have done better no doubt, while he was rightfully expecting more cover from Varane than he received, he shouldn't have been so far across from the near post. He did make a good save earlier in the game though so not all bad.
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This is very true. His diving technique is also very erratic too.His problem is that he routinely concedes goals that don't look right or are very soft.
They're not 'mistakes' and if they happened once or twice a season you'd never look twice at them...but there's an awful lot of goals we've conceded this season when you look at his effort to make the save and think "could he not have done a bit better?".
The 3rd goal tonight is a prime example. Varane should do much better and I think his positioning is fine, but he was left absolutely rooted to the spot when the shot came in and we have seen that before this season.
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You could see it because you could see his positioning was awful. His footwork and positioning have been awful and have been his biggest let down this season.‘I don’t blame him for the goal…but Obama simply has to do better there’.
We could see it because we were watching from behind Neto at a raised angle on tv. Onana can see Varane but because you can see what’s going on you think he should just vacate the far post coverage completely?
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This is also true, which is why I am trying to be balanced.The problem with plenty on this forum is that, for some, every goal we concede will now be his fault, just due to not liking him. The first two were nothing to do with him. The third he could have done better no doubt, while he was rightfully expecting more cover from Varane than he received, he shouldn't have been so far across from the near post. He did make a good save earlier in the game though so not all bad.
I have a mate who loved DDG and, no exaggeration, I think he's blamed Onana for 80% of the goals we've conceded this season. Every goal we concede I get a flurry of WhatsApp messages ranting about him.
There's plenty out there like that. Too loyal to DDG, for reasons I don't understand, and therefore can't judge Onana fairly.
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Happens a bit too often for my liking.For me it's the way he seems to make no attempt to save the shot, and just watches the ball go past him, are we expecting too much, or are we just spoiled because the majority of keepers we have had would at lest attempt a save?
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Moving on from de Gea was right thing to do but replacing him with Onana seems to be a mistake. Expensive mistake unfortunately.
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So moving on from De Gea was wrong then.Moving on from de Gea was right thing to do but replacing him with Onana seems to be a mistake. Expensive mistake unfortunately.
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As I said, you do you.You could see it because you could see his positioning was awful. His footwork and positioning have been awful and have been his biggest let down this season.
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The opposite seems to be as true, we regularly concede too many goals in games and then the same lot in here make out that he's blameless.The problem with plenty on this forum is that, for some, every goal we concede will now be his fault, just due to not liking him. The first two were nothing to do with him. The third he could have done better no doubt, while he was rightfully expecting more cover from Varane than he received, he shouldn't have been so far across from the near post. He did make a good save earlier in the game though so not all bad.
Outside of a clanger some will never admit he could be at fault. That 3rd goal demonstrates the issue perfectly, his positioning/decision is never quite right and that's going to add up over a season howlers or not.
Doesn't matter as we can't afford to replace him anyway. He'll be here next season and he either improves or continues to drag us down.
Wheato
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When he caught the ball with his hands, I actually cheered.
Any shot on target is a goal with him between the sticks.
We bought a dud.
We need another keeper in the summer.
Any shot on target is a goal with him between the sticks.
We bought a dud.
We need another keeper in the summer.
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He doesn't have to stand there holding the post, he just need to make sure HIS post is covered. If Neto bends a worldie into the far corner, fair enough, but that's a lot harder than passing it through a 3 yard gap at HIS post.If he moves over Neto simply puts it the other side
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wish we still had de gea.