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They were same type of people, typical "workplace millenials" that the older generation love to moan about (I am in the same age bracket as them though).
Where did I pose a question with answering one?
You don’t see my point and you’re waffling about Shaw and Martinez. What do two players have two do with determining if the whole squad bar Rashford show the required commitment. I’d be better off with ChatGPT.
We have been daft that way for quite a while, giving contract on advertising profiles/social media presence rather that success. From what SJR has been saying hopefully that is going to change.
Yes well done that is the thread we’re posting on, where in that response have I not answered questions? Waste of time.
Not entirely sure what you're complaining about, but it's fairly obvious that instead of discussing Rashfords performance in Rashfords performance thread, you prefer to turn this into a debate about other players acting similarly on the pitch without mentioning names.
Which other players have similar issues?
Jamie O'Hara crucified him on Sky Sports and it was a long time coming.
What is the point in starting him up front? I know it's not going to go well, you know it's not going to go well, hell Marcus himself knows its not going to go well... the only person on the planet who seemingly thinks it'll go well is Ten Hag, which is just another mark against him really.
You have a front 3 thats been working prety well. One of them gets injured, so instead of switching just that element out, you switch two elemnts out, thus giving only one of your front 3 the chance to play well... how does that make any sense?
You have a front 3 thats been working prety well. One of them gets injured, so instead of switching just that element out, you switch two elemnts out, thus giving only one of your front 3 the chance to play well... how does that make any sense?
Is it as simple as only switching one element out when there's no real alternatives? You could just as easily argue that placing a dummy up front, just to have someone there, would make it even easier for the opposition to focus solely on our left and right wing, with no real worries about what player up top can do. Making it more difficult for Rashford and Garnacho to perform. It's not like Rashford hasn't played good matches as a CF in the past.
He currently happens to be our least awful alternative up front.
Not sure it explains his attitude.
Whilst true, the past isn't now, and currently i think if you asked 100 people if Rashford was going to have a good game up front, 99 people would have said no.
It might not be as simple as switching one out, but you're at least giving two of your front 3 a better chance to have a good game by trying something else up top.
And he's 26 as well, still has a lot in his tank to run around.
Run around man, run around.
In fairness, if you ask a 100 people if Rashford is going to have a good game down the left wing, the vast majority is still going to say no. He's Rangnick bad this season. But what are our alternatives up front at the moment, McTominay's strength is making deep runs where he's hopefully not picked up by the opposition, asking him to make runs in behind or being someone that we can play off seems like a fairly bad idea. Bruno? Then we'd be left without anyone creative.
I agree that it's less than ideal to stick Rashford up top, but we're at the point injury wise where you turn it upside down and look at least awful alternative rather than best.. You still expect a bare minimum from him, and for various reasons he's not offering us that.
Rashford is very overhyped and overrated player.
Extremely useful on the counter, but... He has literally zero skills on the ball when it comes down to 1vs1 play. He just pushes it forward and hopes to outrun or to get better position than the defender.
He is not a great finisher. 9 out of 10 times he just smashes it full power, usually at the keeper. Sometimes he attempts to curl it with sporadic results.
Very selfish player, very lazy, very bad body language, oozes arrogance aswell.
I think the goals he scored last season, covered for the fact that he was still useless for most of the game (even when he scored eventually).
I'm beyond pissed with him and would really like us to grab 70 million or so in the summer and let him go jog around somewhere else.
Extremely useful on the counter, but... He has literally zero skills on the ball when it comes down to 1vs1 play. He just pushes it forward and hopes to outrun or to get better position than the defender.
He is not a great finisher. 9 out of 10 times he just smashes it full power, usually at the keeper. Sometimes he attempts to curl it with sporadic results.
Very selfish player, very lazy, very bad body language, oozes arrogance aswell.
I think the goals he scored last season, covered for the fact that he was still useless for most of the game (even when he scored eventually).
I'm beyond pissed with him and would really like us to grab 70 million or so in the summer and let him go jog around somewhere else.
I genuinely think McT could be OK upfront - he's a target for a start, and can be a nuisance in the box. Plus late in a lot these games we've basically been a 4-4-2 with him as high as Hojlund/on the last man anyway. Ultimately we don't know how he'd get on there as its not happened yet, but it literally could be no worse then Rashford.
Even away from McT, Amad has started a few games up front in his short career, hell Forson shouldn't have started, but his only apperances for us before this game had been up front - so he started him on the right?
Rashford has played close to 150 games as a striker and had a good record up top last season.
I wouldn't have played him there, but it's understandable why the manager did, especially when he's the only player fit in the squad with a good experience as a striker. This is another problem with Rashford in the last 3 or 4 years, he often gives up entirely when not playing in his preferred position.
I wouldn't have played him there, but it's understandable why the manager did, especially when he's the only player fit in the squad with a good experience as a striker. This is another problem with Rashford in the last 3 or 4 years, he often gives up entirely when not playing in his preferred position.
Let's call a spade a spade - he's not very good.
It's fine that we've resorted to playing him high up the pitch with Højlund, but Mctominay has mainly been floating around trying to get on the final ball and not being a part of the build up. I don' t really see him as a better option up front than Rashford.
I would guess that swapping wings is related to fullbacks.
Man got proper angry there - fair play to him.
Soon as this season ends the better - get this pony out the door
cheers that did make me chuckle.I would have started Amad as a false 9 and used Rashford and Garnacho as split strikers.
Needs to move on. It would be in everyones best interest. Not sure if it's always been the case but i am glad some pundits are also starting to pick up on, and get stuck in on the "lacking effort/desire" narrative. It's plain out there for all to see.
You could add Henderson to that list as well. He got dropped to the Palace bench recently and Palace fans think he sucks. This is the guy that thought he should have been No.1 ahead of DDG and allegedly leaked stuff for Luckhurst to report and undermine us.
The media seem to be taking notice though. Southgate would be a fool to take him to the Euros on this seasons form but still probably will.
You know who i think could be stupid enough to pay a big fee for him? Chelsea. They need a striker. I'd happily sell him there with certainty that he'd be no better than he is here.
Fully agree. He is both a victim and the culmination of the culture and state of this club for the last decade in one package. A perfect representation. Pushed too hard, too fast. Vastly overpaid, largely average, indolent, disinterested, mired in sentimentality. A marketing vessel first and foremost, and everything else second. He is one of the people I most want to see leave the club.
I believe it would be beneficial to him as well, at least if he is looking for something else other than financials out of the sport. He could go somewhere where he can be his own player without the additional expectations as the "Manc born and bred" poster boy of the club, which was thrust upon him from the beginning. And I hope the club learns its lesson about putting spotlights and offering fat contracts to players too early. Becoming the talisman of a team is not something you are born into, but something you earn over many years of good service.
An interesting thought but I get the feeling they’re a little more self aware after getting duped for Sterling.
Well encapsulated.
Every single manager has had the same issue with him. He played his heart out under LVG when he broke through. He was rough around the edges but it was obvious he was living the dream and playing for his future. This is a lad the club have given everything to. Yes the club has been dysfunctional and standards have dropped. Instead of trying to buck that trend and get something going one feels Rashford wallows in it. Trotting around like look what I have to play with when he is actually week after week our weakest link. I hope SJR and Brailsford can see what most the rest of us can for the longest time. He’s a one trick pony and his trick has been figured out a long time ago. If he can’t score that one type of goal he has no interest. It’s totally obvious he doesn’t care if the fans love him or not. He’s a very wealthy meme at this stage. He should be dropped for the rest of the season.
Players have too much power over managers because we can sack Ten Hag, but we will need clubs willing to pay for Rashford, Antony, Sancho, Bruno, Casemiro and not only a transfer fee but also wages. The links with PSG are surely paper talk. Rashford is an Everton/West Ham level player on the wages of a Salah/De Bruyne. You would hope he would want a change to challenge and prove himself but if he’s unwilling to press or run in behind you know he’ll take the easy option and stay at United
Even if he's better at a rival club we should sell, can't keep with this playera who are inconsistent. We'll never challenge for major titles when you have "leaders" of the squad being questioned their attitude and work. That's the bare minimum for a professional player.
That's fair. I just feel given his lack of effort he shouldn't be getting starting berths. An option off the bench at most until the attitude improves, if it ever does.
yeah i agree here too. I never get the obsession with how a player weve sold does elsewhere - if they were consistenly poor with us they had to be sold. On that note too, I cant think of many that have proved us wrong, other than to prove we should never have played them so much in the first place.
I genuinelty think he doesn't 'care' if he wins trophies or not. It might be a bonus, but mostly he's achieved what his personality wanted- playing professional football for a big club and earning lots of money. That's a great achievement, but it's a different breed of player who does this, but the primary focus is to win all the big competitions.
We basically played with 10 men against Fulham, he was as none of an entity as I've ever seen.
There was a time when I was curious to know what's going on inside his head, but much like him, I don't give a f*** anymore, I just want him gone.
There was a time when I was curious to know what's going on inside his head, but much like him, I don't give a f*** anymore, I just want him gone.
And we end up kind of having what we have now.
Have you got a link to those numbers somewhere? I think it’s also worth noting that Rashford is rarely injured and tends to play a high volume of matches every season (albeit not quite Bruno levels!).
Didn’t see the match this weekend sadly but not unexpected if he struggled. The only circumstances where he should play CF are either (i) when we have good control of midfield and can get players around him for him to play off or (ii) if we are set up to hit on the break. I’m guessing neither of those scenarios arose at the weekend.
I can't think of anyone that have prove us wrong in the last 10 years. Darmian, Depay, Smalling, Blind have had nice careers after being sold but nothing to cry/regret about.
All the others have actually gone way worse, their careers practically spiraled down after leaving.
Two days on and I’m still disgusted. He’s a disgrace.
He seems like a cool/relaxed guy to be around.
That video is from Monday two weeks ago btw, day after we beat Villa and was on a 3 game win streak.
Should be allowed to go socialize in evenings, no?
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