If Utd were 12/13th it wouldn't be unfair based on performances. Really been quite terrible for the majority of most games.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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ETH thinks this could be a "very good point in the end". Still thinks we're chasing a CL spot 
What do you expect him to say? People shat on Tuchel for conceding the title earlier today
Well we still haven't seen his United team with De Jong though. He is going to solve all our problems, we just need to try harder in the summer to get ETH what he wants.
Give Nagelsmann all he wants. Prevent him going back to Bayern. Also get a caretaker in until the summer.
Well whose job is it to make sure that isn't the case?
They've been coached by the same giy for going on 2 years.
Robbie Mustoe not holding back there after Ten Hag’s press appearance
That’s my point.
Ole's lack of plan was better than the ETH lack of plan.
He took over an Ajax team that missed out on the league by one point. It's not as if they were miles of it. He won the league with Ajax, but it's the Eredivisie and it's Ajax.
His clout largely comes from a singular CL run - where he lost to fecking Spurs. No evidence of this so called "great coach" at United.
This guy is one of the biggest myths around man.
Wow.....I think I've finally flipped......I think I want him out. I understand his side is shite but surely he should still be able to get something out of them and I do believe the players don't care and are probably trying to get him sacked. Half this squad needs to leave as well. It's irresponsible for this club to sack another manager without sacking many of the players.
I'm just afraid who they will get to replace him.
I'm just afraid who they will get to replace him.
He needs to go but anyone thinking that alone will fix this club are only fooling themselfs. At least half the squad needs to go with him and that includes all of our so called star players.
If it’s “just Ajax” and they win it every year, just remind me where they are right now?
Let’s not downplay what he did there. Everyone was rubbing themselves silly when he arrived.
Tuchel was right though. You’ve got to be realistic. Otherwise people start to think you’re going insane.
Does he think it goes down to 6th or something?ETH thinks this could be a "very good point in the end". Still thinks we're chasing a CL spot
Or hasn't he been looking at the table?
Or does he think we're going to win 7 of the last 9?
Southgate is what I felt about OGS being replaced by that doughnut Rodgers. It's bad but it can get worse, so let's not do that.
Still sack him though.
Still sack him though.
You definitely have to be realistic.
Right, the same Ajax that sold the core of the title winning team? Are you OK?
What's he saying ?
I've thought that too.
I think everyone knows we've had a bad season but I don't think they realise how bad.
The results have been awful but the performances have been twice as bad. Must be about 80% of our wins this season I've come away thinking we got dead lucky. We're fortunate to be as high as 6th.
Fair enough mate, full disclosure I'm a bit pissed.
That's because we'd tried the "legendary" manager approach of Van Gaal and Mourinho, the ex player legend, Ole and the "pick a geezer the same nationality as your all time legend manager and hope they're somehow as good for some reason" approach.
Everyone wanted us to go for the exciting potential worldly upcoming option, not the stale Poch type route.
It was the right decision, just hasn't worked beyond a couple of purple patches.
It's actually funny how bad this is. No defence of that sort of game plan really. I was wondering when he'd do something, even putting McT in a two with Hojlund up top and going long would have even positive. Just SOMETHING to change the dynamic.
I dunno. When you’ve got players who don’t look arsed already, I feel like telling them they’ve got nothing to play for isn’t the best idea
Brentford had more injuries but yet the injury excuse will be rolled out soon
They lost a number of players last year, not just EtH.
His biggest mistake I think is not switching to a more solid formation earlier in the season. I think the tactics he wants to implement can be done but only with specific types of players e.g. De Jongs etc. We just don't have those players in all the positions and especially not when we have so many injuries. I think he probably should have reverted to a more compact version of last season's tactics until we got specifically the likes of Martinez and Mount back.
I think this is probably correct. It seems clear it isn’t going to work out for him, but to say Ten Hag is a shit coach and has always been a shit coach is mad.
From day 1 v Wolves we were utterly annihilated through the centre of the pitch and run off it like we were Sunday league versus Olympians.
But it's becoming more obvious every week we can't keep conceding 20-30 shots every game.
This is all with us thinking we've found a new star in midfield too!
You mean like they did the season before he got there? They also got picked apart in 2017.
He seemed to have gambled on the Casemiro-Mount-Bruno triple from day 1.
It didn't look like it'd work from day 1, but 2 of the 3 have barely been available all year to boot.
Pep Guardiola is my idol.
Regardless of how well he did there, he is doing a really poor job this season. The pl is a completely different level to the eredivisie
Well I'm glad I didn't watch that shite. The vaguely warm feeling that was growing towards him after the pool game, shattered.
A stark reminder of the level we're really at tonight, appalling unwatchable stuff. Beyond lucky to steal a point.
Please just go.
He got lucky tonight, I have horrible feeling he will keep his job but the underlying statistics and performances these results gloss over will just see him sacked after disastrous start next season when his luck runs out.
I don't really know why we were so shit today. Feels like everyone went on international duty, had fun, and were a bit depressed coming back. There's no joy in the team.
The doomsday clock on ETH's tenure definitely ticked a second closer to midnight.
The doomsday clock on ETH's tenure definitely ticked a second closer to midnight.
Exactly. Any team can get unlucky & lose but what we are witnessing is fundamentally poor coaching. Either, A) He’s telling them to do stuff they can not, in which case tailor the tactic of B) He’s unable to coach a cohesive system full stop. Either way this is not what Ineos should deem acceptable performance.