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The Corinthian

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I was at the game so I gave him special focus.

It was genuinely one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen from someone in a Man Utd shirt. There's not enough words to describe how disappointing it was. Insipid, listless, pathetic, embarrassing. He looked like he was genuinely phoning it in. It was laughable at the end him being on the floor injured, refusing to be subbed, then 'pulling up' when they were through on goal.

He was roundly booed by the fans in the stadium, and Amad was cheered on. I think it's a seminal point in his career, and probably the beginning of the end of his time at United.

Don't know what else to say really, a clean break is best for both parties. Amad did more in the 4-5 mins before regular time than Rashford did in the 90 mins prior.

The off the ball movement and effort between him and Garnacho is night and day. Garnacho was constantly making runs, coming inside, trying to find something to hurt the opposition. Rashford just wanted everything to feet and didn't make any off the ball movements in behind. It's why all of our decent attacking play came down Garnacho's side.

The other thing is - if I can see as a fan how poor and ineffective Rashford is, surely EtH can? Why persist with him? Especially if we have Antony (who's at least a trier) and Amad on the bench?

We're paying £350k for league 2 performances. That, on top of how unprofessional he's been lately (the Dublin incident, the constant PR shite) - time to move on from him.
 

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reddevilz007 said:
The issue is they wont come knocking at our door for Marcus, in fact no one will.
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You don't know that for certain. We've seen other clubs shift far worse players on similarly high wages before. Now that we'll finally have a competent DoF in the summer, I'm confident that we'll be able to drum up some interest in Rashford.
 

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I don't think PSG want him tbh. He's simply not good enough to replace Mbappe.

If we sell him, he'd probably end up at a club like Newcastle, Milan, Spurs with us paying half his wages for the next 4 years....
 

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OverratedOpinion said:
Yes Vinicius Jr is a significantly better football player than Marcus Rashford.

The way he decides Champions League finals and such were what tipped me off initially.
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I think the main point the other person was making is Vini works way more than Rashford does even though he is better.

Rashford plays as if he is Mbappe forgetting that Mbappe scores 40 every season.
 

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Another pathetic performance to be honest. It felt like every time he got the ball, he gave it straight back to Coventry. Amad wasn't amazing but I still think he did way much more than Rashford and can actually keep the ball.

I have no idea what is happening but it's so frustrating that ETH keeps playing him even though the form and work rate is atrocious. Any serious club would have dropped him by now and made him work for his place. I honestly think if it wasn't for the injury we would have kept him on for the full 120 mins.
 

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ayushreddevil9 said:
Don't know what everyone's smoking here. Stop your agendas. Forgot 30 goals so soon?
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I think this is the equivalent of saying "ETH has the highest win rate of any United manager post Fergie"

Yes, I'm also aware that he's marginally below Jose as of now but that was the type of thing that people have been saying for a while.

It's just flawed logic.
 

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JeffFromHK said:
Sorry to say it but it is a very poor take. "Judging people" is a weird thing and people can go very very wrong, hence many people do actually believe that Stalin/Mao Zedong are great men and many abused wives think their husbands are nice men
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What limited behavior we've seen from him seems to suggest he has issues mentally. The streaky form, the snapping back at criticism via interviews/socials and the just the immediate drop of the head when we go behind. It's like he's just gone 'what's the point'. And you don't take online abuse that personally if you don't give a crap. Also stating that judging people is a weird thing - isn't that what you and most others on here are doing?

Not saying it's Ok like, but he's clearly mentally fragile and not enjoying his football. Hard to be good at something when your head isn't in it.
 

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The Corinthian said:
I was at the game so I gave him special focus.

It was genuinely one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen from someone in a Man Utd shirt. There's not enough words to describe how disappointing it was. Insipid, listless, pathetic, embarrassing. He looked like he was genuinely phoning it in. It was laughable at the end him being on the floor injured, refusing to be subbed, then 'pulling up' when they were through on goal.

He was roundly booed by the fans in the stadium, and Amad was cheered on. I think it's a seminal point in his career, and probably the beginning of the end of his time at United.

Don't know what else to say really, a clean break is best for both parties. Amad did more in the 4-5 mins before regular time than Rashford did in the 90 mins prior.

The off the ball movement and effort between him and Garnacho is night and day. Garnacho was constantly making runs, coming inside, trying to find something to hurt the opposition. Rashford just wanted everything to feet and didn't make any off the ball movements in behind. It's why all of our decent attacking play came down Garnacho's side.

The other thing is - if I can see as a fan how poor and ineffective Rashford is, surely EtH can? Why persist with him? Especially if we have Antony (who's at least a trier) and Amad on the bench?

We're paying £350k for league 2 performances. That, on top of how unprofessional he's been lately (the Dublin incident, the constant PR shite) - time to move on from him.
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100% this. It is on ETH that he doesn't throw him on the bench after 15 minutes of such performance along with a proper bollocking. Play anyone from academy if needed instead of this utterly shite excuse for a Manchester United player. Ne self-respecting manager would allow him to play in such way and keep him on the field. Sell as soon as possible.
 

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me and my friends all came into consensus that "he was just faking injury to hide embarrassing performance" when we saw him walked off the pitch.
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There was zero contact with the tackle. Also he never even fell awkwardly on his ankle either.

He faked injury in my opinion.
 

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All the media BS and fame got into his head and now he thinks he's way better than he is. Basically, he's just kick and run merchant with terrible decision making, who now thinks he's elite and the football should revolve around him. Also has got no mettle and is a weakling. Disgusting
 

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Rashford was never a skilled player r, he relied on pushing the ball past a defender and using his speed and physique to get him into position to take a shot at goal. That gradually faded as defenders know they just have to watch his feet and basically negate most attempts to run past them into space.

Now the surprise element has gone, and even though he excelled a couple of years ago, he really doesn’t fit the modern, well skilled player that have become prevalent in the EPL. Shifting Rashford to a European team may revitalise his career and ultimately give Utd the chance to refresh the position, that would be a win win solution.
 

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In all the madness at the end of the game I completely forgot he got 'injured' when we were at 3-3 and headed to penalties. I thought it happened before their equalisier. Truly pathetic.
 

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Issue is his contract. No one will give him the same wages knowing that he's overrated.

Other issue is that we'll have many players leaving this summer and can't buy 10 either, so the exodus should continue for another 2/3 windows, but I hope that the new manager will bench him
 

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Berbaclass said:
I think this is the equivalent of saying "ETH has the highest win rate of any United manager post Fergie"

Yes, I'm also aware that he's marginally below Jose as of now but that was the type of thing that people have been saying for a while.

It's just flawed logic.
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You probably didn't know but that poster has been Rashford out since ages. It's just sarcasm.
 

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JeffFromHK said:
an unreasonable opinion held by many then.

tell me which aspect of football he is good at, apart from scoring occasionally goals (once per 5 games this season - which is pretty average)? Is he a good dribbler? or good passer? or is he good at carrying the ball forward or recycling the ball? is he good at link up plays? pressing? tracking back? leadership? If he is good at nothing why is he a "good player"?

he has played 40 odd games this season and got zero MOTM and he is literally ranked the LOWEST (not even the second lowest) senior player in the team on Redcafe - how is the worst performing player not a problem?

look at how he screws up almost every time the ball is at his feet:
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He’s having a bad season, but that isn’t really anything to do with that the other poster said, it was more to do with his character. There is a top player there, he has had a lot of good/great seasons for United. As I said, most people I meet outside of the Redcafé tend to second this. It isn’t an unreasonable opinion just because you disagree with it.
 

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Sounds like the crowd really turned on him yesterday according to Flex who was there.
 

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never plays with his head up. I think it's even worse than when he made his debut, which is quite outreagous.
 

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Vidooq said:
PSG have Barcola fixed for that position, and he is playing well. There is no way they will pay a big fee for another player on high wages when they have that position covered. His brother/agent used/generated PSG interest to get Marcus a new contract. They won't be played again.

City, Liverpool? No way. The only plausible team for him in England is Everton, with taking a huge salary cut or West Ham. I doubt hw will go to Saudi clubs, as he thinks he is world class. It would be super challenging this summer to get rid of him, not because INEOS would not want to, but rather not having enough suitors reputable enough for Rashford.
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PSG will have a very large Mbappe shaped hole in about 4 months time. Rashford is the extremely poor mans version. Though I very much agree that PSG probably took the posturing last time around from Rashford and his brother in sour taste. Do wonder how much interest they truly still have at this point.

Everton are not plausible. They're absolutely broke! :lol:
 

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Still think there's something fundamentally wrong with him that needs addressing. No player goes to Wembley and intentionally looks that appallingly bad.

Guy can't beat Championship defenders, and the more attempts, the worse it got. Not to mention his trademark terrible tunnel vision.

It's probably beyond the remit of the club to 'fix' him.
 

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Still think there's something fundamentally wrong with him that needs addressing. No player goes to Wembley and intentionally looks that appallingly bad.

Guy can't beat Championship defenders, and the more attempts, the worse it got. Not to mention his trademark terrible tunnel vision.

It's probably beyond the remit of the club to 'fix' him.
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He's not good enough, unfortunately the same goes for the vast amount of footballers.
 

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I think he gets slightly misunderstood - I didn't see him as this arrogant diva a lot of people make him out to be.

He's a boyhood fan and been with the club since he was a kid. He probably cares about the club more than most. Plus he seems too introverted to be this arrogant figure - in some ways that's not so good because he doesn't have any sort of relationship with the fans.

As a result of that though he does get frustrated fairly easily. It's no surprise that he plays poorly particularly when the team does, or his goals come in streaky patches. He's not the sort of player to drag a game by it's neck, he's not got that mentality. Shame really.

If an 80+ million bid came in for him I'd seriously consider it. Anything else is derisory and if he want to be a better selling club, accepting 40-60 mil for him is a joke. In a better functioning team, he would be class.
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No one is stupid enough to give us £80m,don't think he would be class in a functioning team personally
 

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reddevilz007 said:
The issue is they wont come knocking at our door for Marcus, in fact no one will.
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I have no doubt that this will be the case. Even if someone did come knocking, we would be stupid enough to reject all negotiations.

The only option is to send him out on loan for a season. Would hopefully allow him to remember how to play football and generate interest in him for the summer after next.
 

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Fortitude said:
Still think there's something fundamentally wrong with him that needs addressing. No player goes to Wembley and intentionally looks that appallingly bad.

Guy can't beat Championship defenders, and the more attempts, the worse it got. Not to mention his trademark terrible tunnel vision.

It's probably beyond the remit of the club to 'fix' him.
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Why can’t it just be that he isn’t very good at football? I don’t see any other players get the benefit of there being an underlying reason for being shit, and it isn’t like this season is an outlier.
 

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Rockets Redglare said:
Why can’t it just be that he isn’t very good at football? I don’t see any other players get the benefit of there being an underlying reason for being shit, and it isn’t like this season is an outlier.
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This just isn't true is it?

Scored 30 goals last season, and has recorded 20+ goals/assists in 3 of his last 5 seasons in top flight football.
 

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ayushreddevil9 said:
Don't know what everyone's smoking here. Stop your agendas. Forgot 30 goals so soon?
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Tbh, I think he's sick of the fans now. There's no attempt to foster any sort of relationship with them, and anything you do get is a reaction to some abuse.
 

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Rockets Redglare said:
Why can’t it just be that he isn’t very good at football? I don’t see any other players get the benefit of there being an underlying reason for being shit, and it isn’t like this season is an outlier.
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Because he is easily our biggest big game player and his goalscoring record against the best teams the country has to offer is pretty much outstanding. He can't go from being a terror vs the best sides to a shadow of a shadow and it just be because, not for me.

I don't think he's a player we can work those issues out with, not on those wages, but whatever has and is going on with him is bizarre, to my mind.
 

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I think he’s genuinely lost his hunger for the game. The 18 year old enthusiasm and attitude of Marcus Rashford is long gone
 

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The only club insane enough to overspend on someone like Rashford, in fees and wages, is the club he is currently at.
 

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I just can't take whatever he says seriously any more. Every time he talks about always fighting and never giving up, but playing like he genuinely hates football. It's so fecking infuriating how much he relies on his PR.

I hope he doesn't start the final. You'd think as a local United fan he'd be up for it but his recent performances against them, including last season's final, are a disgrace.
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Of course he's going to start the final. Our entire strategy will be to hit hopeless long balls over the top in his general direction within one second of getting possession. It will be City making 30 passes covering the entire length of the pitch, then somehow when we stumble into getting the ball back Bruno will close his eyes and immediately loft a hopeless ball forward towards the left channel. Then City get the ball again and repeat.
 
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