You do wonder. Effort has continued to be there (mostly) but they are being hung out to dry by following his chaos ball instructions.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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Or, another coach fails at MU because the job is too big. There‘s a combination of factors at play here; Ten Hag being a poor coach isn‘t one of them. A poor coach doesn’t win 6 CL group games in a row.
Could he have chosen a different strategy this season? Sure, in hindsight.
Well, that and our complete lack of organization, which has been the theme of the season. Our defensive positioning was, once again, absurd.
No mate, just give him time and he'll come good.
Antony will win the Ballon d'or in two years like Ronaldo did if we keep him. We stuck by Ronaldo when everyone said he had no end product and see where that got us... Have faith!
When did the complete lack of organisation begin specifically? It was there as we took a 3-0 lead and for me taking off two younger players for more experience, Garnacho in particular was injured, wasn’t a terrible thing.
The subs costing the game/lead thing is quite exaggerated.
I agree, think it’s very simplistic to blame it on the subs, which I had no issues with. But the way we defend as a unit is baffling, has been all season and was again on Sunday.
If he was actually being judged on results he would've been binned off in November. All previous managers were hounded out for less. He has largely lived a charmed life from both the media and his loyal fans.
Clearly it's rocket science if you think getting embarrassed by every tom, dick and harry every week after spending £450m should be met with applause and praise.
He has no self awareness.
Why? We were 3-0 against a championship team who hadn’t troubled our goal seriously at all until that point. Resting players was an entirely reasonable thing to do. The fact that Eriksen and Antony weren’t able to contribute doesn’t change that fact.
Yes. Because that’s what I said.
Let me say. Ten Hag should go. That is obvious.
That capitulation on Sunday was bad but my opinion is that it’s far more of an indictment of the players than Ten Hag. They are so incredibly mentally fragile and weak. It infuriates me so much because many of them are good players but when the pressure comes on they wilt so quickly.
He has no idea how lenient the media have been with him. He’s had such an easy ride considering the dross he’s served up for 14 months. Then he finally gets some well-deserved criticism, and he gets offended. No accountability, all denial with this guy. Just more proof that he’s not fit for this level.
Making the subs was completely understandable but not reacting to what was happening with the space was unforgivable in my opinion. A championship level manager recognized it and got his team to score 3 goals in one half (you could argue they scored 4). It’s by pure luck that we reached the final.
all he had to do after the subs, was tweak the tactics to I dunno, a 442 or 451, anything different and try to keep the ball.
schoolboy stuff it really was.
Our performance was not disgraceful for the first 70 minutes, but controlled and professional. What were the odds for collapsing at that point?
What happened is due to many factors, most of them related to the state of the club and the squad.
Coventry did not deserve to win this game, after not being in it for 70 minutes. We let it slip away.
Reasonable except Erikson is made of tissue paper. We might as well have gone down to ten men. Throw in a central defense with Casemiro towing his caravan around the pitch and you are inviting any team to attack.
Yes you could have reasonably expected to hold on, and we did. Just. But it was still terrible game management.
I thought that we were absolute shit and played with zero urgency during the first 70 minutes. I'm still baffled by the fact that Coventry decided to be as timid for that long.
Seems fair enough to me. The reaction has been totally OTT and it’s not unreasonable to have plaudits for reaching a final. You can only beat the teams you are drawn against, and frankly it’s about time we get an easier draw!
That’s fair. Sometimes momentum in football can be very difficult to overcome though.
At 3-1 I think we were still okay and probably would have managed the game till the end. They got a lucky second goal and the players shit themselves. I think it just happens sometimes in football especially to weaker mentality players.
People keep saying the squad like he didn’t have any say in it
Eriksen was fine to bring on with 20 minutes to go as a bit of experience and to give Kobbie a rest. That did not cause what happened afterwards.
The lineup was the best we could realistically put together. The subs also were not really wrong.
It‘s up to the players to show grit and smarts when you come under pressure. If you lose the ball high up, or they get around the press, make a foul to stop them from progressing. It is these little things that are critical in a match that we are not doing enough.
Every top team does this. This is just one example.
They don‘t recognize when to buckle down, it is shambolic.
For sure. In hindsight Sunday was perfect. We got to the final while also witnessing the final nails in the coffin of this failed project. There is no way back and he knows it.
It was always going to be that kind of game I think. It was a free hit for Coventry and they got the maximum they could from the game.
The bench was poor, it was mostly kids to be fair but we should have been more than capable of holding off a championship side. I think it’s less to do with game management and everything to do with our players mentality. There looked bewildered at full time like they didn’t know what had happened or how. They need to be more resilient than this.
Unfortunately the game is 90 minutes, not 70. You have to be controlled and professional for the full duration. Overall, it was a disgraceful performance. First time in my life a win felt like a loss. There was little joy when that last Pen went in.
Last season was ETH's genius and proves he an excellent coach but another 200m later (after 200m in the first window) it's the state of the club and squad. Cool story, bro.
Based on the 90 minutes, Coventry did deserve to win the game. If not for stupid VAR, they would have too. Unfortunately, for them they drew the game and lost the right to be in the final in a crap shoot.
We are halfway through a rebuild and have a million injuries. It is what it is.
Subs were fine, the problem is lack of structure. We don't control games or know how to pace the game, so we can't expect team to pace the game.
This should be second nature to the team like how Liverpool, City and now Arsenal do it. They just control the game, we don't. So it's not surprising to see us conceding lot of goals in the last mins of the game.
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I don’t disagree but they were cutting through us, was only a matter of time. Wright pulled a shot wide of the far post when another day he might find the net, they hit the bar, the post and bounced out of the line on another attack. The signs were there but there was no reaction from Ten Hag. I get that you have to trust your players but Fergie would have gone blue in the face screaming. The players need that as much as an arm around the shoulder, they need woken out of their slumber on the pitch sometimes.
I’m not just talking about the one match
He's trying to deflect accountability and make the media out to be the aggressors. He's probably also defending his ego and spinning anything to keep his job.
He’s not wrong. We all agree we played like shit but the media are taking the piss
I think I'm beginning to get like the more vociferous outers reading this apologism 
He's losing it.
He is becoming more unlikeable by the day.
I don't mind his reaction. Anyone who gives it back to journalists is fine by me
I guess it’s not that they’d be told they are interims or that they wouldn’t have a chance to take United to the next level. It’s more that as managers , the club has identified their qualities to be better fit for a long term project that isn’t “we need top 4 this season”.
What does he think the media do? Say Awww poor Erik let him do a bad job without comment? Newsflash this is what the U.K. media do, he’s lucky he hasn’t had his face superimposed on a turnip yet. He needs to be stronger than this
So tomorrow potentially we're without
Bruno
Mctominay
Garnacho
Rashford
Amrabat
Mount
Evans
Varane
Martinez
Shaw
Malacia
Lindelof
Kambwala
Martial
14 first team squad members out.
Have we ever had anything even close to this? It cannot just be bad luck, there's some underlying problem at the club that is causing this.
Bruno
Mctominay
Garnacho
Rashford
Amrabat
Mount
Evans
Varane
Martinez
Shaw
Malacia
Lindelof
Kambwala
Martial
14 first team squad members out.
Have we ever had anything even close to this? It cannot just be bad luck, there's some underlying problem at the club that is causing this.