In fairness I can't hear her so i'm assuming with the aid of a paper bag I could still work with the raw materials she has.
2011 Women's World Cup
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Entertaining game between Germany and France.
The level of play in the Women's World Cup has been very good.
Many of you are simply used to the PL, CL or WC level football.
I have to put up with the MLS and watching Canada compete internationally and I must say that the German, French and American women's teams have been very good.
Some of the German women can literally cross better than the Canadian men's teams.
I think most people on this site are United fans and not fans of football in general.
Many of you are simply used to the PL, CL or WC level football.
I have to put up with the MLS and watching Canada compete internationally and I must say that the German, French and American women's teams have been very good.
Some of the German women can literally cross better than the Canadian men's teams.
I think most people on this site are United fans and not fans of football in general.
Great athleticism shown by the ladies here for some of the goals.
the France v Germany game was a good one, two excellent squads.
Oh and the french left back is
Oh and the french left back is
I think that you can't separate imagination, technique and footballing intelligence from athleticism, speed and strength. You have to be able to have the power and quickness to execute first, before you can imagine doing something.
It is not an accident that Rooney's strength and speed result in his having more intelligence and imagination on the pitch. Do you really think he is simply smarter than other players?
Tevez and Messi have a low center of gravity coupled with lightning quickness and strength. Is it an accident they are technically gifted as well? I'm not saying that every player with those physical attributes will be as good as Messi. I'm just saying that certain physical gifts are a prerequisite, or a platform, if you will, upon which the player can build their technique and imagination.
I've watched Women's soccer in the U.S. for many years. I will even sit and watch the Women's pro league games when I'm bored during the course of the year. They come on the soccer channels I pay for. I enjoy the game, especially players like Mia Hamm, Michelle Akers or these days Marta who are head and shoulders above their fellow players. But the fact is that the Women's game is slow, less technical, and less imaginative. I put this down to the physical difference between men and women, even if football does not make use of the upper body.
There was a time when women's tennis was lacking in technical variety. It was just endless baseline rallies, except for a few muscle-bound serve-and-volleyers like Navratilova or Novotna. Then the racket technology was changed, enabling the women to have the strength and power to do things which they couldn't do before. Now men's tennis is sometimes a boring serving exhibition, where the women play more rallies, have more variety and have more breaks of serve.
Perhaps women's soccer, like women's basketball in the U.S., needs a different ball or a smaller pitch, or a shorter match like women's tennis, in order to allow women to close the athletic gap and play a game as interesting or more interesting than the men.
It is not an accident that Rooney's strength and speed result in his having more intelligence and imagination on the pitch. Do you really think he is simply smarter than other players?
Tevez and Messi have a low center of gravity coupled with lightning quickness and strength. Is it an accident they are technically gifted as well? I'm not saying that every player with those physical attributes will be as good as Messi. I'm just saying that certain physical gifts are a prerequisite, or a platform, if you will, upon which the player can build their technique and imagination.
I've watched Women's soccer in the U.S. for many years. I will even sit and watch the Women's pro league games when I'm bored during the course of the year. They come on the soccer channels I pay for. I enjoy the game, especially players like Mia Hamm, Michelle Akers or these days Marta who are head and shoulders above their fellow players. But the fact is that the Women's game is slow, less technical, and less imaginative. I put this down to the physical difference between men and women, even if football does not make use of the upper body.
There was a time when women's tennis was lacking in technical variety. It was just endless baseline rallies, except for a few muscle-bound serve-and-volleyers like Navratilova or Novotna. Then the racket technology was changed, enabling the women to have the strength and power to do things which they couldn't do before. Now men's tennis is sometimes a boring serving exhibition, where the women play more rallies, have more variety and have more breaks of serve.
Perhaps women's soccer, like women's basketball in the U.S., needs a different ball or a smaller pitch, or a shorter match like women's tennis, in order to allow women to close the athletic gap and play a game as interesting or more interesting than the men.
So far, i have really sit and watched the England - NZ game. In terms of technical skills, women players actually lacked behind their male counterparts but in terms of players endurance, the women players seem to be able run around the whole game without much fuss. Alex Scott, the right back for England was galloping up and down the right touchline the whole game. And the same goes to Ali Riley (quite a stunner too) who plays on the right for New Zealand. And i can't believe i knew the name to two women players
Hell, just been watching the Mexico/NZ match and had me thinking what Vidic could do with some of NZ's corners. Quite sad actually that these female players could deliver a more decent corner that what we've been putting up with all season.
Great goal scored last night by the english striker Elen White.Very good technique
That's a bit of an overreaction if I be quite honest. You seem to think that there is some mental block which makes us perceive women's football as shite and boring, while it actually is shite and boring.
You see the only thing we have to compare is mens football (unfortunate for you thay monkeys do not play football) so in comparison to what I'm used to seeing and I perceive as football, when I see something like that then I'm obviously not going to be entertained and I'm obviously going to brand it as shite and boring. I could only bear to watch 10 minutes of it.
Generally girls still support Man UTD because they think Beckham is still playing for us and now they think they have a shot at Giggs.
This last part is obviously a joke.
Eh? I take it you haven't watched any men's tennis for the last 2 years.
You're definitely in a minority, no one watches women's football for the same reason no watches sunday league matches. The gulf between men and women in sport has to be the largest in football. I don't think many women actually play football compared to individual games like tennis and golf, which is the problem.
After watching a few games I'm fairly confident in the fact that women are generally better at crossing than men.They regularly whip in some fantastic balls, they really have gotten the technique.I've seen better crosses from women than PL players (even United players).
Oh and today a Brazilian player scored this fantastic goal
Oh and today a Brazilian player scored this fantastic goal
Because they have more more more more time for the crossing.
PL is the fastest league in the world > Women`s football is slow
You're right in a certain way but my point also includes the situations in which the women are under pressure when they cross.
And also because they don't have to weigh their crosses, they just pelt it towards the box and it travels about half the width of the pitch.
Hope Solo is an attractive prospect. Would love to see her diving between the sticks in England.
I think Sweden's 18 is losing her hair. She should contact Rooney.
My God, the lineswomen in this game have been atrocious. They have called off two offside decisions against Sweden that is just criminal.
My God, the lineswomen in this game have been atrocious. They have called off two offside decisions against Sweden that is just criminal.
Nice pass to set it up too
I disagree with most of this.
Being a smart footballer is about the ability to read, understand and predict movement on the pitch. It has nothing to do with physical ability. You mentioned Rooney who happens to be a quick and strong player. What about Scholes or Modric? They don't have any special physical presence. Yet they are brilliant footballers, smart and able to move the ball along.
A low centre of gravity obviously helps you dribble and balance. As does speed. But the difference in techique between women and men isn't about centers of gravity. Everyone has a center of gravity, some have it lower than others - I imagine regardless of gender.
The difference in technique between men and women isn't best shown by comparing dribbling skills and players like Messi. You have to look at the basic technique. Look at how a player strikes a ball, traps a ball, passes and shoots. That is where the big difference is, and it is not down to physique. It is down to other things: smaller pool of players, less culture for playing football outside of organised trainings, less training etc.
I do however agree that a smaller pitch might be a good solution. Would quicken up the game for sure.
England v France, kicks off in about half an hour. Live on BBC2.
To be honest the standard in this game is markedly higher than some of the earlier games. Impressed. Still 0-0.
France playing some good stuff. England can't keep the ball at the moment.
Trying not to be amused by watching the physios attending the the Frenchwoman's arse.
There is much more technical ability from the side in white compared to last summer.
Also that looked very painful.
Also that looked very painful.
Is there? For the last few minutes, it's looked like England playing Hoofball again.
Not unenterprising that hoof-ball tactic against France here.
England are playing exactly like the men: Misplaced easy passes and booting the ball as far away from goal as possible.
France unlucky to go into the half without a goal.
France unlucky to go into the half without a goal.
The way France are playing you can't do much else, Necib is a cracking player. Ellen White is running well, good movement.
Englands left-back looks a babe
1-0!! Great finish.
Fergie, sign her up.
Terrible positioning by the keeper, decent chip mind.
The defender running past the ball wasn't too good either.
25 minutes to hang on and do what the men only dream of a world cup finalist.
Good thing for England that the keeper is tiny and can't jump. A pretty tame shot, but the same goal as men with smaller, less athletic female keepers will give you that.
France's no 14
Meh, just miscommunication between the two of them, nothing major.
The goalies always seem to be the weakest aspects of women's football.
I did like when there was some minor pushing between two players because the French player dived, and the female commentator described it as 'handbags'.
The same term would be used about blokes...
Necib is really impressive for France.