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2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Adisa

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This shit is a ruse to scam people. How the feck do you explain this?
 
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And they will frame it as people donating on their own volition.

It’s stupid, but that’s how they do things over there.
Stupid and depressing, yes. Imagine not having a whole lot to begin with, and deciding to donate to this circus to desperately try to keep in power a person who could not care less about you.
 

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I’m no legal expert, but I’m not sure what standing Texas has. I could be wrong.

But the mentally deficient Trump supporters are certain this is the breakthrough they have been anticipating.
The claim seems to be that by diluting electoral practices via unconstitutional means these states have diluted the rights of voters in Texas as well with respect to Presidential election.
 

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But can a state sue another state because the one state does not like the election outcome in another state?
This will be thrown out most likely due to same reason. But interesting legal Q as to if Texas was to conduct overtly fraudulent election to aid a presidential candidate does other states have ground to sue since outcome of federal elections is going to impact each and every state.
 

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The claim seems to be that by diluting electoral practices via unconstitutional means these states have diluted the rights of voters in Texas as well with respect to Presidential election.
Which is nowhere near enough to constitute standing in any reasonable court of law.

Also, the whole "unconstitutional" thing is on pretty shaky grounds. Here's the statement of the Texas Attorney General:
Elections for federal office must comport with federal constitutional standards. For presidential elections, each state must appoint its electors to the electoral college in a manner that complies with the Constitution. The Electors Clause requirement that only state legislatures may set the rules governing the appointment of electors and elections and cannot be delegated to local officials. The majority of the rushed decisions, made by local officials, were not approved by the state legislatures, thereby circumventing the Constitution.
Now the Electors Clause does not say anything about election rules - only about appointing electors!
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
I'm no legal expert either but this looks nothing more than empty political posturing.
 

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Which is nowhere near enough to constitute standing in any reasonable court of law.

Also, the whole "unconstitutional" thing is on pretty shaky grounds. Here's the statement of the Texas Attorney General:

Now the Electors Clause does not say anything about election rules - only about appointing electors!

I'm no legal expert either but this looks nothing more than empty political posturing.
So, 1-50?
 

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Every expert on twitter saying this is going nowhere. Which leads me to this question.
How have things gotten so bad that an entire state is being mage to flog this nonsense conspiracy?
 

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Every expert on twitter saying this is going nowhere. Which leads me to this question.
How have things gotten so bad that an entire state is being mage to flog this nonsense conspiracy?
It's not really 'an entire state' though, as in its population. It's a political decision made by a political office to pursue this case. You only need a few crazies at the top to make that happen. I feel (vaguely) sorry for the staffers that had to work on this and probably know very well how stupid and pointless this is, but have to do the job regardless. (Like some of the staffers of UK ministers that have had to find ways to somehow back up their bosses' nonsense and lies about Brexit.)

Edit: Yep, looks like that Ken Paxton is the exact kind of idiot that would happily drag his entire state into this madness.
 

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Keep on winning!

edit: I look forward to him/his die hard supporters coming out & proclaiming SCOTUS is part of the deep state plot to steal the election.
 

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No dissent either.
I was hoping that would be the case. Anyone with half a brain cell knows Trump’s got no evidence & is chatting shit. Good to see that none of them will entertain his lies.

The fallout will be interesting, considering how they turned on Barr, I expect the same for the 3 Trump appointees.
 

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And I'm all out of bubblegum.
This Presidential election should have proven to anyone who was still curious whether "Nazi Germany" could still happen today. There are tens of millions of people who genuinely believe that the Socialist Democrats stole the election. Imagine a situation where democratic norms had broken down even further, and enough military leaders were willing to accept that reality. There would be nothing stopping Trump completing a coup (and any impartial observer has to admit that he's attempting one even now).

Look at the reaction to the BLM protests, then think of the protests that would occur if such a coup actually took place, and further consider the reaction to that. I have no doubt tens of millions of Americans would be slowly getting used to the idea that you need to violently repress these "radicals" and "Marxists", maybe start rounding them up and putting them in jail before they can burn down any more city centres. Remember that even Hitler didn't manage to grab complete control before the Reichstag fire.

It's not unthinkable, it's just very scary.
 

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What on earth has the Arizona Republican Party become? The Independent reports:

"On Monday, the official Twitter account of the Arizona Republican Party surprised many locals by asking if people would give their lives in the fight over the results of the 2020 presidential election.

The retweet was from right-wing activist Ali Alexander, in which he said he is 'willing to give my life for this fight.'

'He is. Are you?' the state GOP added.

Later, another tweet appeared that read: 'This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something.' ..."
 
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