izec
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Biden will win, calm down
That should have been more than enough reason for Trump to lose. Same as it was in 2016.I agree that it's sad that so many voted for him but Dems have to hold their hands up. They fecked up when Trump did nothing different. Biden is and was a poor candidate - when your only real platform is "I am not Trump'" then you are asking for trouble.
Democrats never really put out a vision/dream/something to aim for. Saying it's not Trump' is not the same thing
They aren't counting and the outstanding mail vote is huge democrat.Pennsylvania doesn't look good.
People have seen this movie before.Has Trump actually won here or are people just crapping the bed before time?
Over 2 million ballots outstanding in PA alone.Pennsylvania doesn't look good.
Trump just came out and said he wants to move the Supreme Court which would suggest Trump isnt sure he'll win if all the votes are counted and its a toss up.Has Trump actually won here or are people just crapping the bed before time?
True, but he has to make up roughly a 700k gap though 1.4 million uncounted mail-in ballots. That's pretty steep.They aren't counting and the outstanding mail vote is huge democrat.
This is true but he needs to win over 75% of all uncounted votes to win the state. It’s possible, but it is still a pretty steep hill to climb.They aren't counting and the outstanding mail vote is huge democrat.
They were wrong up until about an hour ago though?Trump is favourites with the bookies - they are rarely wrong. Especially with only a few states left.
Well they were wrong for the last three months it seems.Trump is favourites with the bookies - they are rarely wrong. Especially with only a few states left.
With this level of support for Trump, there's no realistic scenario in which this is an easy win for Democrats. Turnout has reached record heights; with millions of votes still to be counted, Biden already reached Hillary's level from four years ago. His vote share will only increase from here, in all likelihood.Trump is going to win this and it is no wonder when you put Kerry 2.0 as your candidate.
This should have been a lay up for the Dems.
Nah they move with the market and Trump has called it for himself. They are going to tighten the odds after that.Trump is favourites with the bookies - they are rarely wrong. Especially with only a few states left.
Assuming Biden wins Maine (4), NV (6) and AZ (11), which is the current trend, he is at 245 and needs 25 more. (24 to tie, which becomes a loss)Does Trump wins if he even wins two of these?
Not when Biden is leading 80/20 in mail in votes.True, but he has to make up roughly a 700k gap though 1.4 million uncounted mail-in ballots. That's pretty steep.
But again, that's on the voters. It's not the party that appoints candidates. Democratic voters opted for Biden, for whatever reason.They could have started by putting a younger and more charismatic candidate out there. Obama would have nailed Trump.
Difficult to say without knowing the stake but in general cash out sucks. Almost always it’s better to let it ride and instead put a separate lay bet.I put a bet on Trump to win outright (I always bet on the negative outcome). I can cash out now, but I’m not sure if it’s better to hold out? Cashout now is £164.29 and the full payout would be £271.69.
Evidently not and the blind refusal to adjust position on this view is what is going to lose another 4 years to that bufoon.That should have been more than enough reason for Trump to lose. Same as it was in 2016.
Trump has been the favorite for the last 5 hours.They were wrong up until about an hour ago though?
There's still a lot of votes left for Atalanta in the key statesMy €5 Liverpool/Biden double pays back €15. I could've cashed out for €8.90 before I went to sleep. Now the cash out is €5.38.
This is the most scientific projection out there.
where are you getting that from?Over 2 million ballots outstanding in PA alone.
Agree, just a whole host of errors. Not read the mood of the country at all.But again, that's on the voters. It's not the party that appoints candidates. Democratic voters opted for Biden, for whatever reason.
Doubt they are wrong with only a small amount of states remaining - soon find outWell they were wrong for the last three months it seems.
If he wins PA and GA, then he wins.So if Biden wins PA / AZ (which seems so) / Maine and GA (which still has ballots counted mostly Dem votes same with PA) does he win?
Yes. Seems very difficult though.So if Biden wins PA / AZ (which seems so) / Maine and GA (which still has ballots counted mostly Dem votes same with PA) does he win?
It’s so fecking obvious that Trump is a terrible President. If the American public vote him in, then that’s on them. Same way dickhead Bernie bros who refused to vote for Hilary were partially responsible for him winning in 2016.Evidently not and the blind refusal to adjust position on this view is what is going to lose another 4 years to that bufoon.
Climate change tipping point is incoming and will probably even accelerate now with this idiot and Democrats, who have had 4 years to plan, cant even effectively communicate why their guy would be better beyond "Well, at least he isn't Trump"
Get stuffed, they deserve to lose this.
this board is left leaning and did the same.Agree, just a whole host of errors. Not read the mood of the country at all.
He's won AZ.If he wins PA and AZ, then he wins.
They are both toss-ups though.
GA and NC looks pretty tight. Generally Biden needs 2 out of those 5.Assuming Biden wins Maine (4), NV (6) and AZ (11), which is the current trend, he is at 245 and needs 25 more. (24 to tie, which becomes a loss)
WI = 10
PA = 20
MI = 16
GA= 16
NC = 15
If Biden loses all 3 midwestern states, he needs both Georgia and NC, which looks very hard.
If Trump holds Georgia and NC, then if he holds any 2 of the 3 he wins.